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Post by BigPapaJoe on May 30, 2017 5:34:06 GMT -5
So I just saw the film today. I'll stay away from spoilers here since I know a lot of you folks won't have access to it for a few more days. The film was pretty decent. Not great, but decent. I think it will be seen as the best film in the DCCU since I guess it started with Man of Steel. I will say that the action sequences were impressive early on, but it did get a little tiresome in my opinion in certain aspects. Especially in the final conflict, but this shouldn't be anything new when it comes to what has been seen in these DC movies. Still, the story and the performances were all solid, especially Pine. I think some people aren't going to be too impressed with Gal Gadot, but I thought she was okay in most scenes. There were a couple of instances where she was treading water a bit, but it wasn't bothersome.
Overall, this film was worth the ticket price. It took a while, but DC finally get something going it's new universe that wasn't lackluster or terrible. BTW no end credit scene.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on May 31, 2017 9:57:21 GMT -5
Rotten tomatoes gives it an extremely high mark. The description by a few critics make me think that Diana is treated as she was in George Perez's run, which I like a lot.
I don't think I'll go see it in the theatre, but the WWI setting is very intriguing.
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Post by shaxper on May 31, 2017 10:01:12 GMT -5
This is the only DCU film I am at all interested in seeing. I truly hope we see some early reviews that are more promising than this, but I also wouldn't be surprised if it's as luke-warm as BigPapaJoe says. If this film and Justice League don't deliver, I suspect that will mark the end for the current DC film universe. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on May 31, 2017 11:02:43 GMT -5
Rotten tomatoes gives it an extremely high mark. The description by a few critics make me think that Diana is treated as she was in George Perez's run, which I like a lot. I don't think I'll go see it in the theatre, but the WWI setting is very intriguing. Metacritic (which usually has lower aggregates than Rotten Tomatoes) also has it with pretty good reviews. I may end up taking in a matinee if my youngest son wants to see it. This has been and looks to generally be a fairly dismal summer for popcorn movies. So I may see it if the reviews hold up. |
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Post by sunofdarkchild on May 31, 2017 17:57:46 GMT -5
Just got back from seeing it. 2 things bothered me. One was the overuse of slo-mo in the otherwise great action scenes. And the other was a single plot hole that got on my nerves which I can explain away, but I feel that shouldn't have to. Other than that it was very good. Gadot and Pine are great together, and there is a sense of fun that's been lacking from the DCEU.
I think it sits comfortably among the better Marvel movies, like the Captain America movies, in terms of quality. Though it doesn't touch Nolan's efforts. Esily the best female-led superhero movie or show, though that's not saying much as I feel that the only other good female-led show or movie to date is Agent Carter.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on May 31, 2017 18:04:37 GMT -5
Though it doesn't touch Nolan's efforts. To me that's a good thing. I think Nolan's Bat movies are pretty horrible. |
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Post by berkley on May 31, 2017 18:45:16 GMT -5
Rotten tomatoes gives it an extremely high mark. The description by a few critics make me think that Diana is treated as she was in George Perez's run, which I like a lot. I don't think I'll go see it in the theatre, but the WWI setting is very intriguing. I continue to have a problem with that very thing - the WWI setting, which I think is a terrible idea. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jun 1, 2017 6:05:19 GMT -5
Rotten tomatoes gives it an extremely high mark. The description by a few critics make me think that Diana is treated as she was in George Perez's run, which I like a lot. I don't think I'll go see it in the theatre, but the WWI setting is very intriguing. I continue to have a problem with that very thing - the WWI setting, which I think is a terrible idea. Why is that? I think the senseless conflict (which, unlike WWII, was not about irreconciliable ideologies but just about petty rulers trying to out-piss one another) is a great background for Diana's peace mission and her teaching about the folly of war. It's also a conflict where modern weapons were used side by side with ancient ones (guns and bayonnets, tanks and horses), and in which the Amazon's mix of the old and the new seems to belong. I can believe that an Amazon would be familiar with concepts like climbing out of a trench to try to puncture an enemy's skin; I'm not sure the same would have worked with carpet-bombing or airborne invasions. It might have, but the older the war the better, in my humble opinion. Plus I love period pieces! |
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 1, 2017 10:24:32 GMT -5
I continue to have a problem with that very thing - the WWI setting, which I think is a terrible idea. Why is that? I think the senseless conflict (which, unlike WWII, was not about irreconciliable idelogies but just about petty rulers trying to out-piss one another) is a great background for Diana's peace mission and her teaching about the folly of war. It's also a conflict where modern weapons were used side by side with ancient ones (guns and bayonnets, tanks and horses), and in which the Amazon's mix of the old and the new seems to belong. I can believe that an Amazon would be familiar with concepts like climbing out of a trench to try to puncture an enemy's skin; I'm not sure the same would have worked with carpet-bombing or airborne invasions. It might have, but the older the war the better, in my humble opinion. Plus I love period pieces! Well, if the trailer's depiction of battle scenes are accurate, the tactics look more WW2 than 1. For me, that's an issue; but, that depends on how well it is set up (haven't seen it yet). WW1 is fine if we are going the Ares is the villain route; but, the Nazis and fascism were at the heart of WW's conception. Personally, I think they went with WW1 because they didn't want to be branded a rip-off of Captain America TFA, in typical Hollywood thinking. So, they grafted a WW2 plot onto WW1. At least, that's what the trailer said to me. Hopefully, the movie itself will change that perception. NPR's review spoke to some good story elements, which has done more to make me want to see it than the trailer and marketing. |
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Post by sunofdarkchild on Jun 1, 2017 10:47:56 GMT -5
The driving force of the plot is the threat of poison gas to change the course of the war, which was more of a feature on the WW1 battlefield than WW2, where it was used extensively off the battlefield but very little in combat. And the second act action scene focuses on trench warfare and the dangers of No Man's Land.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 1, 2017 12:19:26 GMT -5
The driving force of the plot is the threat of poison gas to change the course of the war, which was more of a feature on the WW1 battlefield than WW2, where it was used extensively off the battlefield but very little in combat. And the second act action scene focuses on trench warfare and the dangers of No Man's Land. Tanks and aircraft proved to be the game changing weapons, as poison gas proved too uncontrollable and dangerous to one's own side. That said, it's a good macguffin and was used well in the movie Fraulein Doktor, about a WW1 female German spy who steals secrets to mustard gas. The ending is horrifying. Hollywood's dodgy history annoys me at the best of times and recent years have been really bad about that. They seemed to have forgotten how to do period pictures, convincingly, and they throw out anything that gets in the way of standard formula. Real history is filled with drama for any screenwriter worth their salt; you just have to get it past a studio exec with ADHD and a vocabulary that extends only to "opening weekend" and "synergy." I have no real problem with the WW1 setting, as it makes things a bit more unique, even if it doesn't fit the character's history. I'd rather see it for something like Doc Savage, in an adaptation of Phillip Jose Farmer's Escape from Loki; but, this seems to work well enough. Like I said, NPR's review focused on the story and it sounds intriguing enough to make me want to see it; far more than the CGI visuals that filled the trailer. I'm a story guy and so few trailers stress story anymore, especially this kind of stuff. In pro wrestling terms, Hollywood tends to go for the "cheap pop" in trailers, rather than "cutting a promo" that puts "butts in seats." Even stuff like Star Wars and Indiana Jones stressed the story of the adventure, not just the thrills. Still, I would love to see Hollywood do the original, kinky Wonder Woman, even if it were just a thinly disguised homage to it. Those stories have some real meat to them, even if they get into really weird mixes of fairytale storytelling, mixed with pulp sublimated sex. A film with a Paula Von Gunther, Dr Psycho and the Cheetah would be pretty darn cool. There is the Martson boiopic in post-production, but it seems to focus on his relationship with the two women in his life and also sounds heavily filtered through writer/director Angela Robinson's viewpoint, rather than facts. Casting also doesn't seem to match actual photos; but, then, that's Hollywood. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 16:09:19 GMT -5
Got to see it at a Special Screening last night and only ended up getting 4 hours of sleep before work this morning. So worth it. I loved it.
I'm going to go see it again to test if it was that great or it was the excitement of the first viewing, but think it may have dethroned The Dark Knight as my fave comic book film.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 1, 2017 19:59:29 GMT -5
For you guys that saw it...what do y'all think about bringing my 9 and 12 year old daughters? They really want to see it, but I'm concerned at the rating.
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Post by coke & comics on Jun 2, 2017 4:16:31 GMT -5
My spoiler-free review:
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Post by coke & comics on Jun 2, 2017 4:19:24 GMT -5
For you guys that saw it...what do y'all think about bringing my 9 and 12 year old daughters? They really want to see it, but I'm concerned at the rating. They're not my daughters, but they seem more than old enough to me. Some superhero violence. Perhaps a little more than usual as it's set during a war. So lots of bullets fly around. Lots of explosions. Poisonous gas. People are frequently dropping dead, but not gruesomely. It's a fairly sanitized take on war. There are lots of sad civilian casualties, but off-camera. |
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