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Post by Rob Allen on Jul 24, 2017 18:40:40 GMT -5
Curiously, as much as Marvel was considered hipper than DC, Lee's heroines tended towards the fragile, fainting type (Marvel Girl, Invisible Girl, Scarlet Witch) while Fox's were more take-charge (Eliast-Girl, Zatanna, Hawkgirl, Wonder Woman). Gardner Fox wrote Zatanna and Hawkgirl, but Wonder Woman in the Silver Age was written by Robert Kanigher, and Elasti-Girl and the rest of the Doom Patrol were by Arnold Drake. Your point remains true, just replace "Fox" with "DC".
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Post by Spike-X on Jul 24, 2017 23:54:57 GMT -5
As for The Diminishing Lady, I'm under the impression that Rita didn't stick around to finish the movie, but I think I'll list it as The Diminishing Lady (1964) with a note that Ms. Farr left the production mid-shoot but they re-wrote the script and shot around her and found a Rita Farr look-a-like in order to use the awesome footage of the fight with the cat. Sure,why not.
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Post by Spike-X on Jul 24, 2017 23:59:15 GMT -5
I believe there is a Doom Patrol Omnibus being released this year. It's already out!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 5:24:13 GMT -5
Spike-X ... I'm going to get my copy this Friday and it's reserved for me!
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Post by badwolf on Jul 25, 2017 13:11:20 GMT -5
Grant Morrison's Doom Patrol is still one of my favorite runs of all time. Full of wonderfully crazy ideas, mind expanding without chemical additives! Some of the most reread comics in my collection.
After he left, Rachel Pollack tried to keep the weird going, but it was pretty execrable.
John Byrne's revival was more traditionalist, but was a fun blend of Silver Age and modern styles.
That's all what I'm familiar with regarding DP.
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Post by Hoosier X on Jul 25, 2017 13:20:05 GMT -5
I should add that I was really enjoying the recent Doom Patrol series from DCs Young Animal imprint. The one that was canceled as of #6.
I'm very worried about Terry None's cat.
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Post by Prince Hal on Jul 25, 2017 16:59:48 GMT -5
Great thread, Hoosier! A few random thoughts about the original DP; COOL name. COOL look. They may seem weird for Silver Age DC at first glance, but they were right in keeping with the oddness of Earth-B (Boltinoff), where many of the non-super-heroic types hung out. Much has been made of their similarity to the X-Men, but there was cynicism at work in the pages of the Doom Patrol. I never sensed in the X-Men the bittermess that ran through the characters of Cliff Steele and Larry Trainor. The DP were adults, of course, and the X-Men teenagers, so the cynicism was more understandable. I wrote about the DP a bit in my most recent post in A Comic Lover's Memories, but I never got to see any of their adventurs until very late in the original run. They hooked me immediately, though, and as I got older and back issues were more readily available, I bought as many as I could. Bruno Premiani's art was so different from standard superhero art. The expressions on faces, the naturalness (is that a word?) of the figures, and the humanness of all the characters, even the villains, made the stories stand out. On the other hand, there were never more chilling images in comics back then than the moments when Larry Trainor, often when he was alone piloting his plane, free from the sight of others, removed his bandages and showed us his death's-head visage. No hero, it seemed, not even Ben Grimm or Bruce Banner, suffered more because of his appearance. Trainor never ever could show himself. He had no real "face," just a hideously ghoulish skull-face. And he couldn't even console himself with the glories of being a super-powerful being. When he used his power, which he could only do for 60-seconds at a time, he collapsed into a near-coma. It wasn't larry who performed the feats, but the Negative Man within him, a lifeless electrical charge. Negative Man (and as I've said before, no superhero's name is more appropriate), was like a demon that possessed Trainor; in some ways the relationship between hom and the being who lived inside him was a forerunner of the relationship between Boston Brand and those he controlled as Deadman. I'm sure Arnold Drake drew upon Trainor when he created Deadman. One more thing for now. Drake often "destroyed" Cliff Steele's robot body in ways he never could have depicted if he had been human. In mmeory, anyway, Cliff always seemed to be hopping inot DP headquarters carrying an arm and a leg, barking at Caulder to repair him. Black robotic humor. More anon. Ben Grimm and Cliff Steele? Midway City? The beguiling grace of Rita Farr. And more!
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Post by Rob Allen on Jul 25, 2017 17:32:31 GMT -5
As Prince Hal says, much has been made of the DP's similarities with the X-Men. But they also had some interesting parallels with another super-team.
Consider: - a scientific genius - a shape-shifting character - a fiery guy who flies - a super-strong guy with an orange body, who laments being stuck in that orange body
Does that remind you of anyone?
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Post by Farrar on Jul 25, 2017 20:07:38 GMT -5
Rita Farr was great! Her name may have been a nod to Senorita Rio, whose civilian ID was Rita Farrar. I love that she could both grow and shrink. And wouldn't you know, a few months after her debut Hank Pym/Ant-Man became Giant-Man. (I know there was an older character called Mighty Man who could both grow and shrink too, but he had some other powers as well).
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Post by Spike-X on Jul 25, 2017 20:08:25 GMT -5
I should add that I was really enjoying the recent Doom Patrol series from DCs Young Animal imprint. The one that was canceled as of #6. If it was cancelled at #6, why has Mike Allred been posting his cover for #7 all over social media?
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Post by Spike-X on Jul 25, 2017 20:22:42 GMT -5
On the other hand, there were never more chilling images in comics back then than the moments when Larry Trainor, often when he was alone piloting his plane, free from the sight of others, removed his bandages and showed us his death's-head visage. I remember being a bit freaked out seeing that when I'd come across the occasional DP story as a kid.
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Post by Hoosier X on Jul 25, 2017 23:00:06 GMT -5
I should add that I was really enjoying the recent Doom Patrol series from DCs Young Animal imprint. The one that was canceled as of #6. If it was cancelled at #6, why has Mike Allred been posting his cover for #7 all over social media? I looked it up today because I was wondering that I hadn't seen a new Doom Patrol for a while, so I wondered if it was late or what. Apparently the creative team is having trouble (of some sort; the article I looked at was a just a short blurb without any details) and so DC canceled the solicitations for #7, #8 and #9. But it must be doing OK in sales because the HC for the first six issues is being advertised and may be on sale already. That's what I heard anyway.
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Post by Hoosier X on Jul 25, 2017 23:02:53 GMT -5
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Post by Spike-X on Jul 26, 2017 2:57:19 GMT -5
There ya go!
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Post by Cei-U! on Jul 26, 2017 7:24:32 GMT -5
I always liked the original Doom Patrol, even though my entire exposure to it back in the day was one issue of the DP title (the one where Madame Rouge gets her shapeshifting powers) and the B&B team-up with Flash. I think I was most fascinated by the atypical-of-the-genre Bruno Premiani art, though I also dug the wheelchair-bound Chief (a much better role model than lazy-ass Professor X, who had two working arms but couldn't be bothered to push his own chair). It wasn't until my pal Bill Wormstedt gave me a CD with scans of the complete original run about fifteen years ago, though, that I truly became a fan of the series. The two volumes of Showcase Presents were must buys for me. As for later version, I was unimpressed by the New Doom Patrol (I'm not a Joe Staton fan), though I enjoyed the hell out of their team-up with Superman in the DCCP issue that introduced Ambush Bug. I bought the first few issues of the Steve Lightle-drawn revival but didn't stay with it long, not because of a problem with that particular title but because I walked away from comics entirely around that time. I've never read the Grant Morrison run and have absolutely no desire to.
Cei-U! I summon my own Action Chair!
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