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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2019 18:20:15 GMT -5
I hate that Wonder Woman is depicted as strong as Superman but yet she often uses a sword and shield in battle? If she were as strong as Superman wouldn't her body be invulnerable, shouldn't bullets and missiles be bouncing off of her...are the sword and shield just a fashion statement? Sword and Shield link that's explains everything about them.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Oct 16, 2019 3:25:10 GMT -5
I hate that Wonder Woman is depicted as strong as Superman but yet she often uses a sword and shield in battle? If she were as strong as Superman wouldn't her body be invulnerable, shouldn't bullets and missiles be bouncing off of her...are the sword and shield just a fashion statement? You have to keep this in mind:
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Post by chadwilliam on Oct 17, 2019 23:01:19 GMT -5
I keep looking at the covers and thinking, 'I need to track down that issue.' I've recently been finding myself in the frustrating position of taking an interest in a new title or character only to discover that there is nothing to track down beyond a ten or so issue run sometimes from 50+ years ago. Silver Age Plastic Man, Barry Blair's Gun Fury, ACG's Magic Man - all stuff I can't even find more than a blurb about online here and there. Worst still, this is stuff for which chances of a revival seem remote at best.
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Post by MWGallaher on Oct 18, 2019 10:27:28 GMT -5
I absolutely hate being so familiar with DC and Marvel's back catalog from the Silver and Bronze Age that there are few if any obscure features remaining for me to discover. I'll never have the astonishment I had when I discovered that features like Dr. Droom (a.k.a. Dr. Druid), the Green Glob, Tales of the Watcher, Immortal Man, the Brothers Link, and Automan had been published.
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Post by lordyam on Oct 18, 2019 18:18:11 GMT -5
Johns and Morrison do have talent though. Where has Johns been hiding it? His Brainiac Storyline. His Green Lantern stuff such as Sinestro Corps war is also very well regarded. I admitted that I actually think Doomsday Clock is a worthy enough sequel to Watchmen (and that the Watchmen fanboys who refuse to even read it are being unreasonable). That he gave villains like Sinestro, Zod and Orm actual depth while having Superman as a likable brave compassionate person while still experiencing sorrow and anger. He's hardly on the level of Rob Liefeld.
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Post by Duragizer on Oct 18, 2019 22:23:27 GMT -5
Johns may have his strengths, but his tendencies towards ultraviolence and fanficy garbage (like the Rainbow Lantern Corps) have made it incredibly difficult for me to see them.
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Post by profh0011 on Oct 18, 2019 22:58:06 GMT -5
Johns may have his strengths, but his tendencies towards ultraviolence and fanficy garbage (like the Rainbow Lantern Corps) have made it incredibly difficult for me to see them. I have very mixed feelings about Geof Johns' work.
This is because, half the time, he's brilliantly "fixing" other writers F***ING over other people's characters. But, the other half of the time, he's committing atrocities that seem even worse than the ones he spent so much time "fixing".
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2019 0:06:58 GMT -5
Johns may have his strengths, but his tendencies towards ultraviolence and fanficy garbage (like the Rainbow Lantern Corps) have made it incredibly difficult for me to see them. Don't forget the ham-fistedness! Show, don't tell, Geoff.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Oct 19, 2019 3:25:45 GMT -5
Johns may have his strengths, but his tendencies towards ultraviolence and fanficy garbage (like the Rainbow Lantern Corps) have made it incredibly difficult for me to see them. i quite liked the Rainbow Lantern corps - It felt like it followed the Julie Schwartz Silver Age Logic of "If this, why not that".. Eg. if Earth 2, why not Earth 3. I think Johns is extraordinarily good at continuity maid-work - I think the actual choices he makes vis-a-vis what version of which specific character is portrayed HOW are generally well thought out. And his actual writing has... improved. There's a little bit better dialog, and much less reliance on moronic slasher movie style violence since his Wally West FLASH days. Still, he's the kind of writer who doesn't really do "theme" or "depth" or "character development" or "subtext." I think the secret to his popularity is that (A) he makes continuity minded fans feel pandered to, and (B) there is absolutely no chance that a Geoff Johns comic will make you think or engage you on any sort of deeper level. (Also (C) I guess there is a huge demand for Friday the 13th style splatter gore in superhero comics, go figger.) So for a fairly large subset of superhero fans this is everything they could ever want.
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Oct 19, 2019 9:25:49 GMT -5
I absolutely hate that no one has Venomized Aunt May.
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Post by rberman on Oct 19, 2019 9:31:35 GMT -5
I absolutely hate that no one has Venomized Aunt May. Sure, why not? It's like Captain Universe. The hero could be YOU!
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Post by chadwilliam on Oct 21, 2019 22:03:14 GMT -5
I really hate it when a writer brings back some cool or beloved character from the past only to re-invent them in some grim and gritty fashion. "If you liked the whimsy, fun, and excitement of The Batman from the planet Zur-en-Arrh, then you'll love seeing him as a raving psycho who smashes peoples heads in with a baseball bat!" "Like Uncle Scrooge? Then you'll love Spawn!"
And I absolutely hate it when I hear these stories described as tributes to the real thing.
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Post by badwolf on Oct 21, 2019 22:20:50 GMT -5
Johns may have his strengths, but his tendencies towards ultraviolence and fanficy garbage (like the Rainbow Lantern Corps) have made it incredibly difficult for me to see them. But he gave us Dex-Starr.
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Post by lordyam on Oct 27, 2019 2:29:33 GMT -5
Johns may have his strengths, but his tendencies towards ultraviolence and fanficy garbage (like the Rainbow Lantern Corps) have made it incredibly difficult for me to see them. Meh. I never minded the Rainbow Corps. 3 of the colors on the light spectrum are already represented, they were kinda tied to emotion and it not only gave a reason for why yellow of all things actually hurts the green lanterns. It felt like a natural enough extension and it created an overarching space opera storyline, which I see as a welcome change of pace I also like that he took villains like Zod Orm and Sinestro (who were originally just evil for the hell of it) and made them more nuanced and in the cases of Zod and Sinestro even had some degree of right on their side even if their methods were overly violent and destructive. Some of the Flash's rogues were also fleshed out. On the hero side he helped restore Aquaman to his badass rep (though the DCAU had been doing that first) and his portrayal of Superman manages to be kind and compassionate while still feeling anger and sorrow and even displaying a bit of a playful side.
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Post by tarkintino on Oct 27, 2019 12:01:52 GMT -5
I really hate it when a writer brings back some cool or beloved character from the past only to re-invent them in some grim and gritty fashion. "If you liked the whimsy, fun, and excitement of The Batman from the planet Zur-en-Arrh, then you'll love seeing him as a raving psycho who smashes peoples heads in with a baseball bat!" "Like Uncle Scrooge? Then you'll love Spawn!" And I absolutely hate it when I hear these stories described as tributes to the real thing. Agreed; if the character had any of those traits as part of his evolution, or an older storyline that might warrant the increased violence, then its justified, but change just for the hell of it, or the writer thinking he's part of this "edgy" trend is nonsense, and more often than not, their work never holds up.
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