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Post by Cei-U! on Sept 4, 2017 8:51:00 GMT -5
If you could see my pitiful copy of Flash #123, you'd know I don't worry about such things. As for preservation of old comics, the original paper-and-ink relics may not survive but as long as there are folks out there dedicated to making good, clear, digital copies of them while they can their contents will live on.
Cei-U! I summon the hope for the future!
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Post by MDG on Sept 4, 2017 9:07:52 GMT -5
If you could see my pitiful copy of Flash #123, you'd know I don't worry about such things. Now you have to post a picture. As for preservation of old comics, the original paper-and-ink relics may not survive but as long as there are folks out there dedicated to making good, clear, digital copies of them while they can their contents will live on. Agreed. The important part isn't the pulp, but what's on it.
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Post by tingramretro on Sept 4, 2017 9:09:08 GMT -5
If you could see my pitiful copy of Flash #123, you'd know I don't worry about such things. As for preservation of old comics, the original paper-and-ink relics may not survive but as long as there are folks out there dedicated to making good, clear, digital copies of them while they can their contents will live on. Cei-U! I summon the hope for the future! The contents surviving without the original comics is irrelevant to me. No interest in digital, never have had, never will. Digital comics are not comics.
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Post by The Captain on Sept 4, 2017 9:25:13 GMT -5
I don't worry about any of those things, primarily because I am very careful about my storage methods as well as ensuring that I keep my comics in a low humidity, no moisture, no-direct-sunlight environment. While I know that all things degrade over time, I do my best to keep that from happening.
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Post by Cei-U! on Sept 4, 2017 9:29:23 GMT -5
If you could see my pitiful copy of Flash #123, you'd know I don't worry about such things. As for preservation of old comics, the original paper-and-ink relics may not survive but as long as there are folks out there dedicated to making good, clear, digital copies of them while they can their contents will live on. Cei-U! I summon the hope for the future! The contents surviving without the original comics is irrelevant to me. No interest in digital, never have had, never will. Digital comics are not comics. Really? If a time comes when a comic is only available in digital because no original artifact still exists, isn't that preferable to the contents being lost forever? Would you refuse to watch a classic silent film whose crumbling negative was transferred to a digital format? Or refuse to read Shakespeare because you can't get your hands on a First Folio? Cei-U! I summon the bafflement!
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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 4, 2017 9:31:37 GMT -5
I picked this up in a show for 1 dollar. It was so bad that I stapled the ends to keep it together, but boy did I enjoy the story.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Sept 4, 2017 10:58:22 GMT -5
If you could see my pitiful copy of Flash #123, you'd know I don't worry about such things. As for preservation of old comics, the original paper-and-ink relics may not survive but as long as there are folks out there dedicated to making good, clear, digital copies of them while they can their contents will live on. Cei-U! I summon the hope for the future! The contents surviving without the original comics is irrelevant to me. No interest in digital, never have had, never will. Digital comics are not comics. Do you not watch movies on DVD? It's not the same experience as the theater. No Mp3s of older music? If you don't that's fine. I'm just curious if you're consistent.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 16:16:28 GMT -5
If you could see my pitiful copy of Flash #123, you'd know I don't worry about such things. As for preservation of old comics, the original paper-and-ink relics may not survive but as long as there are folks out there dedicated to making good, clear, digital copies of them while they can their contents will live on. Cei-U! I summon the hope for the future! The contents surviving without the original comics is irrelevant to me. No interest in digital, never have had, never will. Digital comics are not comics. So what makes a comic real and original. I ask because it has been confirmed there were multiple printings of some of the key Golden Age books such as Superman #1. It went through 3 different printings (with some variations in the cover) in 1939. For all those that adhere to only the original comics is the real format, does that mean all the Superman #1s out there formt he second and third printings are not real original Superman #1s? You can hear/see someone discussing the Overstreet article on the multiple printings of Superman #! (1939) a few minutes into this episode of Lee-Kirby'Ditko comics (I linked to the time in the video. According to audit documents for the publishing house that became DC that were floating around a couple of years back, it looks like the print runs for Superman broke down like this... So those who discount later printings, editions, formats, etc. as not being real versions of the stories/books, does this mean there is only 500K real copies of Superman #1 and 400K fake copies or less valid copies floating out there in the marketplace. Currently no differentiation is made in the value of any of the printings, but would someone turn up their nose up at a second printing of Superman #1 because it's not the real original version of the comic. If not, how is it any different than any other later printing of the stories or the book in fascimile editions that contain all the same content? I just curious at the logic and justifications behind the school of thought that one version is inherently superior to another and later versions are not worthy of consideration. Second and third printings of Superman #1 (and there seems to be multiple printings of Superman #2 as well) are not the original version then, so should they be shunned by those who hold the logic that only the original print run of the comic book is a valid version of the comic book worthy of consumption by readers. If it's true, I feel sorry for those who shelled out money for copies of Superman 1 and 2 thinking they had originals and come to find out they had 2nd or 3rd printings from the late 30s and not the "real thing" from the first print. -M
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Post by james on Sept 4, 2017 16:31:48 GMT -5
As a collector the only thing i cant stand is water damage and pages missing or torn. Now they're are several comics that are exceptions to the rule. Action Comics 1 Amazing Fantasy 15 Detective 27 Giant size xmen 1
Those issues id take with water damage but to be honest i dont know about torn pages😒
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Post by shaxper on Sept 4, 2017 17:59:44 GMT -5
If you could see my pitiful copy of Flash #123, you'd know I don't worry about such things. As for preservation of old comics, the original paper-and-ink relics may not survive but as long as there are folks out there dedicated to making good, clear, digital copies of them while they can their contents will live on. Cei-U! I summon the hope for the future! archivists warn that digital may be a less stable long-term medium than print. it's a major controversy right now. for popular works that are preserved in multiple formats, there's no problem, but the more obscure works that have been digitally archived yet never reprinted, that's a roll of the dice. as I understand it, the two largest threats to digital archiving are electromagnetic disruption and file formats that cease to be supported.
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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 4, 2017 18:01:16 GMT -5
I had no idea there were 2nd and 3rd printings of Superman #1.
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Post by batusi on Sept 4, 2017 18:12:21 GMT -5
I had no idea there were 2nd and 3rd printings of Superman #1. Same here, fascinating fact to know about. I wonder if the same is true for Detective Comics #27 or similar Golden Age comics?
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Sept 4, 2017 18:49:45 GMT -5
For me, I will read new comics digitally (anything 2000 and up). Older stuff well I prefer to hunt down original copies, older reprints, treasury reprints, or if it has to be, some other printed form.
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Post by shaxper on Sept 4, 2017 19:34:46 GMT -5
I had no idea there were 2nd and 3rd printings of Superman #1. Same here, fascinating fact to know about. I wonder if the same is true for Detective Comics #27 or similar Golden Age comics? Detective #27 was reprinted twice, once as an Oreos giveaway (only the Batman story was reprinted, and the cover was made of the same material as the inside pages) and once as an over-sized Famous First Edition (which some have attempted to trim down in order to pass it off as the original).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 19:55:39 GMT -5
Same here, fascinating fact to know about. I wonder if the same is true for Detective Comics #27 or similar Golden Age comics? Detective #27 was reprinted twice, once as an Oreos giveaway (only the Batman story was reprinted, and the cover was made of the same material as the inside pages) and once as an over-sized Famous First Edition (which some have attempted to trim down in order to pass it off as the original). Don't forget the Millennium Edition which has all the contents of the issue not just the Batman story. But I think he was wondering if it had gone back to press to make more copies the way Superman #1 and #2 did, where DC sold out the initial print run and printed more copies to get it back on newsstands. I would think it more likely Batman #1 went back to press than Detective #27, but aside form Supes #1 and #2 I don't think there have been other confirmed cases of DC going back to press on an issue int he Golden Age. -M
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