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Post by lobsterjohnson on Sept 7, 2017 13:32:32 GMT -5
I've given bad comics away, but I have never, ever destroyed one because its contents were so bad. I think I must care less about comics than some people. Not even Spider-Man: One More Day?!
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Sept 7, 2017 13:32:40 GMT -5
Amazing Spider-Man #247 is a classic! A great story! Lacking in battles and such but it was an interesting tale and even got referenced in the latest movie Like others, I have traded/sold books I did not like. I had a few comics that were falling apart that I recycled....actually, I also cust our clippings of characters and scenes from some in case I ever get around to a collage project I have long considered. But ripping up a book in a fit of rage? I dont think I will ever find a book that brings me to that...if it sucks that bad, I would just stop reading and work on finding a way to pass it along to someone who does want it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2017 15:54:44 GMT -5
I destroyed very few comic books - the one the most painful was the first crossover with Superman and Spiderman and I just couldn't repair it at all. A few years later ... I got a replacement for it.
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Post by Cei-U! on Sept 7, 2017 16:08:54 GMT -5
I've never destroyed a comic because of its contents. Comics I don't like get given away. I did once cannibalize some tattered copies of Avengers #76 and Fantastic Four Annual #6 (both duplicates of nicer books in my collection) to wallpaper the bulletin board over the desk in my dorm room senior year.
Cei-U! I summon the recycling bin!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2017 16:30:41 GMT -5
I've used bargain bin comics, coverless copies, worthless duplicates of issues in art projects and cut them up, usually for decoupage, and read comics until they were tattered and falling apart, but never destroyed them in a fit of pique or during temper tantrum. If I don't like something, someone else might, as there is a difference between my tastes and standards of quality at times, some overlap to be sure, but I am not so egotistical as to believe my tastes are some sort of standard for measuring the objective quality of a comic or other story/entertainment form, and just because I don't like something doesn't mean it's trash and someone else might not appreciate it.
I have however flung a novel across the room in a fit of rage over what the author had done after getting me to invest so heavily into the characters, but then, after I stopped screaming "I can't f***ing believe he did that after all that build up, how could he?" twenty times or so, I picked up the book and gave it to someone else to read who also liked the author's work, but did not finish it or read anything else by the author (and no it wasn't George RR Martin killing a character).
-M
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Post by tarkintino on Sept 7, 2017 16:30:47 GMT -5
Comic books that were so bad that you destroyed them That darn Action Comics #1. I mean...really. That guy did not even look like Superman, and what's up with his lack of powers? No threat of world-ending events? Could not take it, so into the shredder it went! Of course I'm kidding!
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Post by Confessor on Sept 7, 2017 17:46:26 GMT -5
I've given bad comics away, but I have never, ever destroyed one because its contents were so bad. I think I must care less about comics than some people. Not even Spider-Man: One More Day?! Ha! I do remember throwing the last part of that arc down in utter disgust upon reading it, but I still wouldn't have destroyed it.
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Post by The Captain on Sept 7, 2017 18:10:48 GMT -5
Just one. It was an issue of The Eltingville Club (which one, I honestly can't remember), but it was so vile, with horribly misogynistic themes and terribly offensive language, that I knew I was never going to read it again nor did I want either of my daughters to ever pick it up and leaf through it.
What's unfortunate is that I've read other Eltingville Club stories that, while crude, didn't offend me in the least ("Bring Me the Head of Boba Fett" is hilarious) and I find Milk & Cheese to be absurdly funny. This one, however, not so much. It currently resides in the local landfill, a fitting place for an absolute piece of trash.
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Post by Spike-X on Sept 7, 2017 23:14:24 GMT -5
The first comic that I threw out because it was just awful was an issue of Fantastic Four that was obviously an inventory story they'd thrown in as a fill-in. It was by Danny Fingeroth and...I dunno, some hack artist. I tore that sucker in half before I threw it out, I was so mad that they'd sold me such crap.
The second comic that I threw out was the first Tom deFalco/Ron Frenz issue of Thor following Walt Simonson's brilliant run. I was disappointed that Simonson was leaving, but I'd enjoyed the DeFalco/Frenz run on Amazing Spider-Man, so I figured I'd give it a try.
I opened it, saw what looked like a warmed-over Lee/Kirby pastiche, and tossed it in the bin.
I also threw out the first two or three issues of Warren Ellis' City Of Silence (or Shitty Of Silence, as I still refer to it), most of them unread, because it was just crap. Ellis is one of my favourite writers, but when he's bad, he's really bad.
I also had to throw out an issue of...Cerebus, I think? Because I spilled chocolate milk on it.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Sept 7, 2017 23:36:29 GMT -5
If I didn't tear up Avengers the Crossing, all my other books are safe. I did throw it across the room.... but I do still have it as an object lesson on what one shouldn't do with an iconic team.
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Post by berkley on Sept 8, 2017 1:37:04 GMT -5
Usually if I don't like something my reaction is one of indifference - for example most of the new versions of old comics series like the Avengers or the FF and so on. That may not come across here in our discussions when I'm saying I don't like this or that, but I'm just trying to state my opinion accurately, not to express any sense of outrage ("How dare they!").
When I do feel some emotional reaction it tends more to sadness than anger. Again, that may not seem to be the case but it's true. When I'm talking about the deficiencies of Marvel's latest Eternals or DC's latest New Gods comic or whatever, that's almost always at the core of it - a kind of disheartened, discouraged feeling that something so special can be so unappreciated by the very same writers who claim to revere their original creator.
But I think this kind of anger does seem to be so common in comic book fandom that it often gets read into any negative opinion whatsoever, no matter how it's expressed, which makes it kind of counterproductive to express anything but the most relentlessly positive endorsement: anything else gets written off as knee-jerk fan-entitlement. It's a bit of a dilemma with my personal bête noires, because if you don't say anything, there's often no dissenting view being presented at all.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 9:21:33 GMT -5
Usually if I don't like something my reaction is one of indifference - for example most of the new versions of old comics series like the Avengers or the FF and so on. That may not come across here in our discussions when I'm saying I don't like this or that, but I'm just trying to state my opinion accurately, not to express any sense of outrage ("How dare they!"). When I do feel some emotional reaction it tends more to sadness than anger. Again, that may not seem to be the case but it's true. When I'm talking about the deficiencies of Marvel's latest Eternals or DC's latest New Gods comic or whatever, that's almost always at the core of it - a kind of disheartened, discouraged feeling that something so special can be so unappreciated by the very same writers who claim to revere their original creator.But I think this kind of anger does seem to be so common in comic book fandom that it often gets read into any negative opinion whatsoever, no matter how it's expressed, which makes it kind of counterproductive to express anything but the most relentlessly positive endorsement: anything else gets written off as knee-jerk fan-entitlement. It's a bit of a dilemma with my personal bête noires, because if you don't say anything, there's often no dissenting view being presented at all. For me, the heart of this is most comic fans who become creators tend to imitate their heroes rather than emulate them. They focus on the end product rather than the process, trying to create a comic like the comic their heroes created instead of creating the way their heroes created, fueled by talent, inspiration and personal vision. Most who venerate Kirby try to produce books that look like Kirby instead of doing what Kirby did and create based on his passion, imagination and vision funneled through his talent. So what you get is pale imitations of Kirby instead of the kind of vibrant work Kirby created. Many artists, writers, etc. go through an imitative phase early in their journey as they are learning to create (think say Lovecraft in his Dunsany phase, Barry Windsor-Smith in his Kirby-clone phase), but the good ones, the truly talented ones evolve beyond that and use their creative heroes as inspiration to become something more akin to the creative force their heroes were. Most, however, never get beyond imitation, and this is particularly true in a regressive field like mainstream super-hero comics that pretty much has had a mission statement for the last 30+ years of keep on keeping on with the same ole same ole to maintain the properties instead of creating new ideas and stories. -M
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Post by mikelmidnight on Sept 8, 2017 12:00:54 GMT -5
Just one. It was an issue of The Eltingville Club (which one, I honestly can't remember), but it was so vile, with horribly misogynistic themes and terribly offensive language, that I knew I was never going to read it again nor did I want either of my daughters to ever pick it up and leaf through it. Huh, which one? I love the Eltingville Club.
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Post by The Captain on Sept 8, 2017 12:30:41 GMT -5
Just one. It was an issue of The Eltingville Club (which one, I honestly can't remember), but it was so vile, with horribly misogynistic themes and terribly offensive language, that I knew I was never going to read it again nor did I want either of my daughters to ever pick it up and leaf through it. Huh, which one? I love the Eltingville Club. It was #2, the last one that came out in 2015. Just a miserable use of the comic medium.
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Post by shawnhopkins on Sept 10, 2017 18:58:59 GMT -5
I don't think I've destroyed a comic, but my cat puked on a really bad Ron Marz issue of Green Lantern and I considered it appropriate commentary.
That issue of The Eltingville Club is the one where they're all old and bitter, right? Yeah, that's some dark stuff, as you'd expect. But even though Bill is an incredibly bitter and disgusting misogynist in it, I don't think the message was misogynist, because we're supposed to side with Jerry as he grows up and leaves the club for good for just that reason. It's probably a reaction to misogynist controversies that were going on in comics and gaming at the time.
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