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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2017 15:37:26 GMT -5
And we can talk about why Ernie Chua/Chan was the greatest cover artist of the 70s. You'll have to get me drunk first... geez get you drunk & you will do anything...... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2017 15:47:33 GMT -5
And we can talk about why Ernie Chua/Chan was the greatest cover artist of the 70s. You'll have to get me drunk first... that might be what Ernie said every time he was asked to do a cover... (rimshot please)  -M |
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Post by Prince Hal on Oct 11, 2017 15:56:03 GMT -5
(And I'd be glad to tear apart a few Mike Grell "masterpieces" myself!) If I "win" again I will make it a Mike Grell theme just to annoy you....  Bring it on. I'll be right up in your "grell."  |
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Post by Prince Hal on Oct 11, 2017 15:56:28 GMT -5
You'll have to get me drunk first... geez get you drunk & you will do anything...... I'm a cheap date... |
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Post by kirby101 on Oct 11, 2017 16:53:00 GMT -5
Prince Hal. Sorry if I came across that way. It was more an observation than a complaint. One of the things that is fun about this contest is seeing the different views on the covers. People might have voted on this for their nostalgic feelings for that issue, or they really liked the cover. I just found it artistically weak. So it was curious to me that it won over ones with much better art (IMO) or that were more iconic. And pinkfloydsound. That is exactly how I play it. Love posting and love seeing all the covers. Congrats again to Rob, it's all good. Glad to hear it, kirby. But, if you do want to discuss the merits (or demerits) of a cover, this probably isn't the right thread for lots of reasons. Maybe you could even start a thread in which you post a generally accepted iconic or beloved cover and explain why you don't think it's all that good. I know I'd be there in a second! (And I'd be glad to tear apart a few Mike Grell "masterpieces" myself!) Still mystified why you don't think Batman 180 is "weak." Start that thread, man! It's just a weak effort by Kane, who is normally great on covers. The composition isn't good and the figures are awkward. I often don't vote for the winning cover. But I usually see what attracted people to the winner. This one just left me out in the rain. As for that thread. To much effort just to be negative about someones work, I would rather concentrate on things I like. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2017 17:36:35 GMT -5
Prince Hal how about Mike Grell inked by Ernie Chan? 
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Post by Prince Hal on Oct 11, 2017 21:23:54 GMT -5
Prince Hal how about Mike Grell inked by Ernie Chan?
NOW I CAN"T UNSEE THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MAKE. IT. STOP!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by hondobrode on Oct 11, 2017 21:30:41 GMT -5
I've said it before
Primitive as they are, those Ernie Chan/Chua covers take me back to childhood, and I bought a ton of comics based on those covers
Looking back at them, they don't hold up as well as many others, and yet, at a primal level, they connected with Lil Hondo then, and they must've worked, cause he put out a lot of covers in the Bronze Age
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 11, 2017 21:33:39 GMT -5
Chan vs. liefeld winner take all !
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Post by Prince Hal on Oct 11, 2017 21:35:18 GMT -5
I've said it before Primitive as they are, those Ernie Chan/Chua covers take me back to childhood, and I bought a ton of comics based on those covers Looking back at them, they don't hold up as well as many others, and yet, at a primal level, they connected with Lil Hondo then, and they must've worked, cause he put out a lot of covers in the Bronze Age Understood. We all play the nostalgia card. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2017 22:00:06 GMT -5
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Post by batusi on Oct 11, 2017 22:32:32 GMT -5
batusi and kirby101, I think you're unintentionally coming across as either sore losers and/or snobs. Rob doesn't need me to defend his choice, and since you don't give any reason you think the cover is "weak," or why the choice confuses you, your complaints have no merit. If you want to discuss the merits of the cover, I'll be there to offer mine. I respond only to remind you that this is a fun little contest. Rarely is it a runaway win; inevitably there are covers no one has ever seen before. We have never established aesthetic or technical criteria to determine a winner. I was actually torn between Rob's entry and a couple of others, in particular, chickenpocket's Timmy the Timid Ghost cover, which is 180 degrees removed from Batman 180 in very way but that it's in a graveyard. Just enjoy the fun. If you want to offer commentary, absolutely, do so. (See MW Gallaher's excellent discussion of the Phantom Stranger cover last week.) But, in the interests of our purpose here and in other threads, defend your opinion respectfully. Just don't just toss a passive-aggressive brickbat and leave. Thanks. PS: Why did it never occur to me before looking at this week's winner for maybe the three-thousandth time (just a moment or two ago) that Infantino's Death-Man design may have been something of a influence on his design of Deadman, who made his debut a year or so later? Not my intention but thanks for the lengthy lecture. BTW, congrats to the winner. 😀 |
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Post by Prince Hal on Oct 11, 2017 22:54:15 GMT -5
batusi and kirby101 , I think you're unintentionally coming across as either sore losers and/or snobs. Rob doesn't need me to defend his choice, and since you don't give any reason you think the cover is "weak," or why the choice confuses you, your complaints have no merit. If you want to discuss the merits of the cover, I'll be there to offer mine. I respond only to remind you that this is a fun little contest. Rarely is it a runaway win; inevitably there are covers no one has ever seen before. We have never established aesthetic or technical criteria to determine a winner. I was actually torn between Rob's entry and a couple of others, in particular, chickenpocket 's Timmy the Timid Ghost cover, which is 180 degrees removed from Batman 180 in very way but that it's in a graveyard. Just enjoy the fun. If you want to offer commentary, absolutely, do so. (See MW Gallaher's excellent discussion of the Phantom Stranger cover last week.) But, in the interests of our purpose here and in other threads, defend your opinion respectfully. Just don't just toss a passive-aggressive brickbat and leave. Thanks. PS: Why did it never occur to me before looking at this week's winner for maybe the three-thousandth time (just a moment or two ago) that Infantino's Death-Man design may have been something of a influence on his design of Deadman, who made his debut a year or so later? Not my intention but thanks for the lengthy lecture. BTW, congrats to the winner. 😀 You're welcome. BTW, "the winner"'s name is Rob.  |
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Post by kirby101 on Oct 11, 2017 23:18:48 GMT -5
I understand, when he wins he has a name.
His name is Rob Allen, his name is Rob Allen, his name is Rob Allen.....
First rule of the cover contest, you can't talk about the cover contest.
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Post by kirby101 on Oct 11, 2017 23:24:38 GMT -5
Chan vs. liefeld winner take all ! No, just no. Ernie Chan was never my favorite Filipino artist. And I did not like his inks on John Buscema. But he was a decent artist and always did a minimum of a servicable job. You can't compare his work with Liefeld dreck. |
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