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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 27, 2018 6:06:13 GMT -5
Without spoilers- I was surprised that scenes that were in the trailer were not in the movie. Alternate scenes were there instead.
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Apr 27, 2018 10:05:30 GMT -5
Without spoilers- I was surprised that scenes that were in the trailer were not in the movie. Alternate scenes were there instead. Misdirection. Because everyone overanalyzes trailers now. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 27, 2018 11:51:50 GMT -5
My reaction to the film is pretty much what my reaction was to cross-overs, like Infinity Gauntlet: lot of people punching things, a few interesting moments, not as satisfying as I expected. I much preferred Thanos in the earlier days and the Captain Marvel and Adam Warlock sagas played tighter than the bigger Infinity series of minis. The bigger thing is the films make me appreciate the storytelling mechanics of comics more. I like these plots better in the comics, where you absorb more of the story and moments can be suspended in time. When it is translated into film, everything has to keep moving and these end up feeling more like a video game, to me, than an epic saga, or a great adventure (to varying degrees, in the Marvel films). There are some great moments between characters in these; but, Found the quieter moments meant far more to me than the action scenes. Part of it is the artifice of CGI, as very little looks "real" to me on these, compared to in the comics. Something about line art just seems to give things more character and "life." The film is what I expected, after viewing everything but Thor: Dark World, as far as how the MCU plays things. There is nothing I would say was bad; but, nothing I would say was classic or unforgettable. Really, the battle stuff just feels like a lot of random stuff flashing across my screen, with little resonating. I had the same reaction to modern comics, like Ultimates, which tends to go for the same kind of storytelling. I do think it brought some good character drama to play, in between people punching things; but, I don't feel like as much of it paid off as they hoped. The closest I can compare it to is Lord of the Rings and I felt Peter Jackson was better at making the battle sequences feel like real struggles to survive and stop the onslaught, from an emotional standpoint. He would have little human moments that I think have been missing from the Avengers films, as a whole. There are too many faceless soldiers in these things, which detracts from the drama, for me. That was there in LOTR; but, I felt Jackson captured the human drama more clearly, even when he was doing the "cool sequence" bit (like Legolas' arrow stunts). I do think the Russos handle the human element better than Joss Whedon; your mileage may vary. I was surprised at Peter Dinklage's role in this. I haven't bothered with interviews for these things, after the first batch of films, as they seemed to be the same marketing copy repeated endlessly. So, I saw his name attached and figured he was going to play Pip the Troll, since we had Thanos. His actual role was unexpected; but, made me smile. Again, good character stuff, some fun lines of dialogue, and a lot of video game action. Still way better than Warner's batting average, in their attempt at a connected film series. DC is getting way better love on tv than at the theater. I think Thanos was handled way better than the original Infinity Gauntlet story. Or at least, his motivations for trying to get the Gauntlet. I think it would have been a hard sell if they tried to ride Thanos on that aspect in the movie. Yeah, a bit more layered.I doubted they were going to go with wooing Death; though, I kind of thought they made him more Darkseid than Thanos originally was. The film cements my unease with characters like Dr Strange, which carries over from the comics. The powers are too undefined and they swing rapidly between not powerful enough to suddenly unbeatable. It is similar to the problem I always had with the old Ultraman tv series. He gets kicked around by monsters for nearly 60 minutes, then hears his alarm, then remembers his energy beams, which always destroy the monster. At least in the Dr Strange movie, there was a sense of learning about his power, though it still felt like he suddenly flipped a switch. The one thing the film did make me ponder was whether they were going to use it to plant the seeds about the Eternals, given the announcement that they are looking to develop the series. The Titans were supposed to be a divergent group of the Eternals, as it played out in the back-up stories in What If, also linking them to Marvel Boy. |
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Post by Pharozonk on Apr 28, 2018 1:36:24 GMT -5
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Did anyone else think that hooded character at the Soul Stone location was going to be Death? To be honest, the Red Skull twist was pretty cool and I like that they didn't dwell on it. He's just there, we get a very vague explanation, and we move on. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2018 7:34:05 GMT -5
Going on Saturday - it'll be first blockbuster film I've seen in the cinema since X-Men 3, so I'm rather hopeful it's going to be better than that! Thankfully, it was a lot better than X-Men 3! Still not sure how I react to this one - the internal logic is pretty compelling, in that each scene plays out and you accept them as inevitable from the setups and Thanos was given a real depth. But it didn't feel terrifically satisfying somehow - and some of the tonal shifts were really jarring. The only bit that really put a smile on my face was the end of the end-credit scene. Definitely re-watchable, I think, and I look forward to seeing it again at home. In the cinema is definitely the way to watch it first though - it really is made for a large screen. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 28, 2018 10:47:32 GMT -5
I was scared and excited at the same time. Thanos is brutal. They made him great just like in the comics.
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Post by Phil Maurice on Apr 28, 2018 19:59:23 GMT -5
Saw the movie this afternoon, 3 pm. VERY crowded theater for our tiny North Georgia town. The audience was engaged for the entire running time. Super enjoyable experience. Thanos was formidable and compelling. And it was also a real showcase for the magic users. If you're a fan of Doc Strange, Thor or Wanda, this should put a big smile on your face.  |
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Apr 28, 2018 21:41:28 GMT -5
Enjoyed it a lot. Some moments surprised me and others were predictable but I avoid reading too much so the ending felt surprising in some ways.
As for the varying powers of Dr Strange, I attribute it to a mental battle. He has all this power and maybe sometimes he chooses the wrong solution for the the task at hand. Why doesn't he just use his time portal warps to send Thanos to a fiery pit somewhere? Perhaps Strange has to conceive it or else it cannot happen. Either way I don't let those things ruin the fun:)
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Apr 28, 2018 21:56:03 GMT -5
{Spoiler: Click to show} So Captain Marvel will play a major role in wrapping up this whole Thanos destroying half the universe business. Here are my thoughts/predictions on what is to come: We know the upcoming Captain Marvel movie is set before all of these current MCU films. Fury obviously has a connection to her, my guess is it is the SHIELD/SWORD connection. We see him hit some weird pager which to me suggest that they have somehow contacted Captain Marvel in the past. How was this done? Dr. Strange. I would also guess that Fury used Strange to go back in time at some point to establish contact with Captain Marvel. Fury knows she is the most powerful hero he has come across so he leaves her with the other half of the time transcending pager. She will get the notification and have to do something on her end to either prevent everything from happening or establish something in her time period that can save the future. Oh...and why go to all this trouble to go back in time when Fury could just contact her now? Well see in the current timeline of events, I think Captain Marvel is dead. Yes, I think somehow they will work in the fact that the original Captain Marvel dies of cancer, which is why she has been absent from any of the events thus far. That, or they just say she has been off fighting the Kree/Skull War and has been too busy. Either way, these are just a comic fans ramblings and thoughts. I also think Dr. Strange knew this was the way it had to end when he witness all of the outcomes. He knows he had to give up the stone because it was the one version of reality in which Thanos could be defeated. He tried to fight against it but eventually gave in. I loved Spider-Man, the creation of Stormbreaker and all the battle scenes. I did not like the lack of Hulk. Overall a very good superheroey movie that, if you dont like it, means you take your comics waaaay too seriously. {Spoiler: Click to show}
I also liked the reference to the comics having Hulk crash into Dr. Strange's place. Granted it wasn't the Surfer but it was a nice nod to the comic story arc. |
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Post by spoon on Apr 28, 2018 22:12:48 GMT -5
I saw it at 11 a.m. this morning. It was a super-packed theater as if it was Friday night showing.
I liked it a lot. Any shortcomings have more to do with the nature of the film itself, rather than the execution. When you have to juggle that many heroes, it hard to deal with many of them in great depth. It's also a story that requires a significant amount of action. For as many characters as there were, it actually gave moments to most everyone. In some Marvel movies, I feel the action sequences drag, but the action really held my attention in Infinity War.
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Post by Phil Maurice on Apr 28, 2018 22:18:26 GMT -5
No spoilers. We've all seen Captain America's costume in the trailer. He's eschewed his shield and divested himself of the overt patriotic symbology. You can see the impression of a star on his chest, but it and the stripes that normally adorn his torso are "blacked out." It feels like a very clever and subtle nod to his time as Nomad, the "Man without a Country" from CA 176-180 IIRC. Not a fan of the beard, though. If I'm being honest.  |
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Post by spoon on Apr 28, 2018 22:52:27 GMT -5
No spoilers. We've all seen Captain America's costume in the trailer. He's eschewed his shield and divested himself of the overt patriotic symbology. You can see the impression of a star on his chest, but it and the stripes that normally adorn his torso are "blacked out." It feels like a very clever and subtle nod to his time as Nomad, the "Man without a Country" from CA 176-180 IIRC. Not a fan of the beard, though. If I'm being honest. Or as the Captain, when he switched to a predominantly black costume (that was later adopted by U.S. Agent). |
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Apr 29, 2018 3:00:30 GMT -5
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Did anyone else think that hooded character at the Soul Stone location was going to be Death? To be honest, the Red Skull twist was pretty cool and I like that they didn't dwell on it. He's just there, we get a very vague explanation, and we move on. Also, I get the feeling he was just a one and done appearance. |
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Apr 29, 2018 3:05:48 GMT -5
{Spoiler: Click to show} So Captain Marvel will play a major role in wrapping up this whole Thanos destroying half the universe business. Here are my thoughts/predictions on what is to come: We know the upcoming Captain Marvel movie is set before all of these current MCU films. Fury obviously has a connection to her, my guess is it is the SHIELD/SWORD connection. We see him hit some weird pager which to me suggest that they have somehow contacted Captain Marvel in the past. How was this done? Dr. Strange. I would also guess that Fury used Strange to go back in time at some point to establish contact with Captain Marvel. Fury knows she is the most powerful hero he has come across so he leaves her with the other half of the time transcending pager. She will get the notification and have to do something on her end to either prevent everything from happening or establish something in her time period that can save the future. Oh...and why go to all this trouble to go back in time when Fury could just contact her now? Well see in the current timeline of events, I think Captain Marvel is dead. Yes, I think somehow they will work in the fact that the original Captain Marvel dies of cancer, which is why she has been absent from any of the events thus far. That, or they just say she has been off fighting the Kree/Skull War and has been too busy. Either way, these are just a comic fans ramblings and thoughts. I also think Dr. Strange knew this was the way it had to end when he witness all of the outcomes. He knows he had to give up the stone because it was the one version of reality in which Thanos could be defeated. He tried to fight against it but eventually gave in. I loved Spider-Man, the creation of Stormbreaker and all the battle scenes. I did not like the lack of Hulk. Overall a very good superheroey movie that, if you dont like it, means you take your comics waaaay too seriously. {Spoiler: Click to show}
I also liked the reference to the comics having Hulk crash into Dr. Strange's place. Granted it wasn't the Surfer but it was a nice nod to the comic story arc. I hadn't thought of that. Perhaps that device Fury dropped was a type of pager to contact Captain Marvel in the past. Maybe it's something he can do one time too. |
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Apr 29, 2018 3:08:57 GMT -5
Enjoyed it a lot. Some moments surprised me and others were predictable but I avoid reading too much so the ending felt surprising in some ways. As for the varying powers of Dr Strange, I attribute it to a mental battle. He has all this power and maybe sometimes he chooses the wrong solution for the the task at hand. Why doesn't he just use his time portal warps to send Thanos to a fiery pit somewhere? Perhaps Strange has to conceive it or else it cannot happen. Either way I don't let those things ruin the fun:) I'm not the most knowledgeable guy regarding Dr. Strange. Just figured he is one of Marvel's heavy hitters. Whatever bag of tricks and skills he has at his disposal aren't a match for four 4 Infinity Stones. |
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