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Post by james on Dec 31, 2019 6:02:24 GMT -5
I think this must be around the time Byrne's style started to change for the worse - to my taste, at least: I know a lot of fans, probably the majority, love his 80s stuff. I still like it here in these samples but not quite as much as my favourite Byrne, the Austin-inked X-Men and the Iron Fist stories mostly inked by Dan Adkins or Frank Chiaramonte. Or maybe it's just that I don't like Byrne's own inks as much as i do Austin's or Adkins's or Chiaramonte's - which would be unusual for me because almost every other favourite penciller I can think of off the top of my head, my preferred inker is the penciller him or herself. Hard to judge some of the characters because they're sitting down or obscured by others in the crowd, but I don't like his Moondragon in the council panel. I always liked Byrne's Black Panther, though, and it's too bad he never drew a few Panther solo stories or even in an issue of Marvel Team-Up or something. This issue was inked by Gene Day and I think for me, this is why Byrne's art isnt as crisp. After this issue you had Klaus Janson whose inks also did a disservice to Byrne's pencils IMHO. But 185-191 you have Dan Green inks and I think Byrnes art is top notch in those issues. |
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Post by berkley on Dec 31, 2019 7:02:29 GMT -5
I usually love Gene Day's inks so this is a disappointment. of course, it's inly one image or page or panel, so I could easily have mis-judged the issue as a whole.
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Post by Confessor on Dec 31, 2019 7:10:12 GMT -5
From this year's Marvels Epilogue by Kurt Busiek and Alex Ross. Marvels what now? (Rushes to Google) Ooooooh...nice. Looks interesting, if a little pricey for what it is. I might have to get me one of those. |
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Post by dbutler69 on Dec 31, 2019 14:14:36 GMT -5
I did notice that the art improved once Byrne stopped inking himself in his Fantastic Four run and Joe Sinnott took over. Overall, though, for whatever reason, I do agree that his 70's work is better than his 80's work. Still, that's not quite as precipitous a drop-off in quality from 70's to 80's work as that experienced by Keith Giffen!! Agree about Giffen, at least what I've seen - though I do remember liking some Ambush Bug issues in the 80s, but that was a different kind of series.
With Byrne, I wonder if, in addition to any evolution of style that may or may not have been happening, it was just that pencilling, inking, and writing took up so much more time that his artwork suffered a little in comparison to the days when all he had to do was pencil.
Yeah, that newer Giffen style did work better on Ambush Bug. Still not my favorite, but much more acceptable than having that on the Legion of Super-Heroes. I'd also wondered that about Byrne, if he'd just taken on too much and the pencils suffered. |
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Post by james on Dec 31, 2019 15:13:43 GMT -5
I usually love Gene Day's inks so this is a disappointment. of course, it's inly one image or page or panel, so I could easily have mis-judged the issue as a whole. The whole issue is Day of course so while some panels show pure Byrne I was let down overall by the inking |
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Post by berkley on Dec 31, 2019 16:15:17 GMT -5
I usually love Gene Day's inks so this is a disappointment. of course, it's inly one image or page or panel, so I could easily have mis-judged the issue as a whole. The whole issue is Day of course so while some panels show pure Byrne I was let down overall by the inking Which # was it, BTW? I know it's a pertty well known issue but it came at a point when I wasn't reading the series, so I don't think I've ever read it in full. |
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Post by james on Dec 31, 2019 18:55:33 GMT -5
The whole issue is Day of course so while some panels show pure Byrne I was let down overall by the inking Which # was it, BTW? I know it's a pertty well known issue but it came at a point when I wasn't reading the series, so I don't think I've ever read it in full. 181 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2020 3:35:54 GMT -5
Superman 2020
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Post by electricmastro on Feb 25, 2020 2:08:13 GMT -5
Cool page from Nick Fury, Agent of SHIELD #7 (December, 1968). Art by Frank Springer:  |
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Post by dbutler69 on Feb 25, 2020 8:44:35 GMT -5
Cool page from Nick Fury, Agent of SHIELD #7 (December, 1968). Art by Frank Springer: Wow. I'd never thought too much about Frank Springer, but this would do Ditko and Steranko proud! |
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Post by electricmastro on Feb 25, 2020 12:45:44 GMT -5
Splash page of the fourth dimension from Alarming Tales #1 (September 1957, Harvey Comics). Art by Jack Kirby:  |
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Post by dbutler69 on Mar 27, 2020 13:37:48 GMT -5
George Perez & Romeo Tanghal  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2020 1:50:26 GMT -5
I love this one from the french edition 'Superman contre Spider-Man'  |
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Post by Jesse on Aug 3, 2020 20:38:02 GMT -5
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Post by tarkintino on Aug 4, 2020 19:44:36 GMT -5
Fantastic Four #178 (January, 1977). Pencils by George Perez, inks by Dave Hunt. 
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