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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 26, 2018 21:17:36 GMT -5
I was surfing the net and came upon Artist Michael Netzer and remember that there was some lawsuit claiming that Neal Adams stole the Ms. Mystic Character from him. The suit was dismissed because of the statute of limitations and Netzer eventually apologized to Adams and smoothed it over. Are there any other times there was controversy over ownership or theft of character ideas ?
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Post by kirby101 on Jan 26, 2018 22:48:06 GMT -5
Besides DC stealing Superman and Marvel stealing everything from Kirby?
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Post by berkley on Jan 26, 2018 22:57:28 GMT -5
I was surfing the net and came upon Artist Michael Netzer and remember that there was some lawsuit claiming that Neal Adams stole the Ms. Mystic Character from him. The suit was dismissed because of the statute of limitations and Netzer eventually apologized to Adams and smoothed it over. Are there any other times there was controversy over ownership or theft of character ideas ? Not only that, Neal Adams also stole his whole style from Netzer, as anyone can see!
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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 27, 2018 0:42:04 GMT -5
I was surfing the net and came upon Artist Michael Netzer and remember that there was some lawsuit claiming that Neal Adams stole the Ms. Mystic Character from him. The suit was dismissed because of the statute of limitations and Netzer eventually apologized to Adams and smoothed it over. Are there any other times there was controversy over ownership or theft of character ideas ? You mean aside from DC's lawsuits against Victor Fox for Wonderman and Fawcett for Captain Marvel?
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Post by nero9000 on Jan 27, 2018 6:39:55 GMT -5
Not character ideas as such, but Bill Mantlo was accused of plagiarism several times, according to Shooter. The Incredible Hulk issue 286 (the one with Kang) was lifted from a Harlan Ellison story, and Marvel had to settle it by giving Ellison a free lifetime subscription of the entire Marvel line, I think. Also, Mantlo allegedly took the idea of Bruce Banner being an abused child from a Barry Windsor-Smith idea.
That, and the Spider-Man villain The Fly was borrowed from the Simon/Kirby Archie hero. Speaking of which, Spider-Man was originally taken from Kirby and given to Ditko because Kirby was busted for stealing from... himself?
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Post by tarkintino on Jan 27, 2018 7:21:44 GMT -5
..or Marvel just happening to publish a team of "misfit" heroes led by a man in wheelchair after The Doom Patrol's debut? I've always thought Drake/Haney/Premiani's Doom Patrol were the victims of Marvel's sticky fingers.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 27, 2018 8:15:20 GMT -5
In a sense, Bob Kane stole credit for the Batman accessories that Bill Finger added later on.
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Post by kirby101 on Jan 27, 2018 8:22:29 GMT -5
In a sense, Bob Kane stole credit for the Batman accessories that Bill Singer added later on. Bill Finger. And it is pretty much acknowledged that Finger now created Batman as much as Kane.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jan 27, 2018 11:38:44 GMT -5
William Gaines and Al Feldstein stole from Ray Bradbury until he called them on it and they reached an agreement to adapt his stories at EC.
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Post by String on Jan 27, 2018 12:49:42 GMT -5
Wasn't there some big hullabaloo between Gaiman and McFarlane over the character of Angela(?) that Gaiman wrote for an early issue of Spawn?
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Post by badwolf on Jan 28, 2018 18:01:35 GMT -5
Wasn't there some big hullabaloo between Gaiman and McFarlane over the character of Angela(?) that Gaiman wrote for an early issue of Spawn? More about who owned the rights to the character than a stolen idea. (Gaiman won.)
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Post by badwolf on Jan 28, 2018 18:02:13 GMT -5
The Incredible Hulk issue 286 (the one with Kang) was lifted from a Harlan Ellison story, and Marvel had to settle it by giving Ellison a free lifetime subscription of the entire Marvel line Haha! That's brilliant!
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Post by mikelmidnight on Jan 29, 2018 12:48:25 GMT -5
Grant Morrison got in trouble after a poem in 'Zenith' was lifted wholesale from some horror writer - forget which one - and Zenith himself closely resembles Milligan's character Paradax.
Morrison was also accused by Michael Moorcock of theft after his Gideon Stargrave character was clearly based on Jerry Cornelius.
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Post by rberman on Jan 29, 2018 12:59:56 GMT -5
..or Marvel just happening to publish a team of "misfit" heroes led by a man in wheelchair after The Doom Patrol's debut? I've always thought Drake/Haney/Premiani's Doom Patrol were the victims of Marvel's sticky fingers. The full order of swiping was Challengers of the Unknown (DC) + Justice League (DC) --> Fantastic Four (Marvel) --> Doom Patrol (DC) --> The X-Men (Marvel). It was a busy year or two for comic books!
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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 29, 2018 13:18:18 GMT -5
Grant Morrison got in trouble after a poem in 'Zenith' was lifted wholesale from some horror writer - forget which one - and Zenith himself closely resembles Milligan's character Paradax. Morrison was also accused by Michael Moorcock of theft after his Gideon Stargrave character was clearly based on Jerry Cornelius. Morrison was pretty open about his Jerry Cornelius obsession, dressing like the character for a period of time (in his youth). Morrison seems to court this kind of stuff, while calling kettles black. He made noise, back in the late 80s/early 90s, about Moore lifting material from Robert Mayer's Superfolks. There is a bit in his "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?' in his depiction of Mxyzptlk and Demoniac was sort of lifted for his Twilight proposal.
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