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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 4, 2023 10:51:08 GMT -5
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 4, 2023 10:52:31 GMT -5
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 4, 2023 10:55:31 GMT -5
The creators of the series heard from Civics teachers that they would hear humming, when they administered the Constitution test. It was whole classrooms humming the Preamble song, as they wrote it out.
The US Congress asked for copies of "Three Ring Circus" and "I'm Just a Bill" to explain to staffers the branches of government and their roles and the process of enacting legislation.
Not bad for a little cartoon created to fulfill the education mandate for Saturday morning programming.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 4, 2023 11:47:34 GMT -5
The creators of the series heard from Civics teachers that they would hear humming, when they administered the Constitution test. It was whole classrooms humming the Preamble song, as they wrote it out. The US Congress asked for copies of "Three Ring Circus" and "I'm Just a Bill" to explain to staffers the branches of government and their roles and the process of enacting legislation. Not bad for a little cartoon created to fulfill the education mandate for Saturday morning programming. ”I’m Just a Bill” Is predicated on a Congress that actually works. That is not a reasonable assumption.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 4, 2023 12:27:23 GMT -5
The creators of the series heard from Civics teachers that they would hear humming, when they administered the Constitution test. It was whole classrooms humming the Preamble song, as they wrote it out. The US Congress asked for copies of "Three Ring Circus" and "I'm Just a Bill" to explain to staffers the branches of government and their roles and the process of enacting legislation. Not bad for a little cartoon created to fulfill the education mandate for Saturday morning programming. ”I’m Just a Bill” Is predicated on a Congress that actually works. That is not a reasonable assumption. Used to be, when the cartoon was created, nearly 50 years ago. Sad to think that the 70s, with Vietnam, Watergate, Ford's un-elected presidency, the Hostage crisis, the OPEC Embargo, The Recession, etc....that we still had a more functional and cooperative government.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Jul 4, 2023 13:25:40 GMT -5
I loved all of Schoolhouse Rock when I was growing up, and still think highly of many (esp. the Grammar Rock episodes), but some of these civics episodes are certainly problematic, the worst being "Elbow Room." Later, after I learned what the word meant, I used to sing the tune but sub in the word "Lebensraum" - seemed fitting.
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Post by berkley on Jul 4, 2023 13:50:13 GMT -5
I loved all of Schoolhouse Rock when I was growing up, and still think highly of many (esp. the Grammar Rock episodes), but some of these civics episodes are certainly problematic, the worst being "Elbow Room." Later, after I learned what the word meant, I used to sing the tune but sub in the word "Lebensraum" - seemed fitting. It's unbelievable. I wish I hadn't listened to it. I have to remind myself that this is an American forum and refrain from making too many political comments but that video speaks for itself. Apologies as always to all the Americans here if this seems gratuitously critical, especially on this, your national holiday. Canada and other countries that emerged from European colonialism are just as bad in this regard, each in its own particular way.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 4, 2023 14:36:30 GMT -5
I loved all of Schoolhouse Rock when I was growing up, and still think highly of many (esp. the Grammar Rock episodes), but some of these civics episodes are certainly problematic, the worst being "Elbow Room." Later, after I learned what the word meant, I used to sing the tune but sub in the word "Lebensraum" - seemed fitting. It's unbelievable. I wish I hadn't listened to it. I have to remind myself that this is an American forum and refrain from making too many political comments but that video speaks for itself. Apologies as always to all the Americans here if this seems gratuitously critical, especially on this, your national holiday. Canada and other countries that emerged from European colonialism are just as bad in this regard, each in its own particular way.
The creators themselves came to regret that particular episode; but, it did reflect a lot of the teaching of US history, of the time. Now, my history book treated "manifest destiny" as a theory put forward by politicians and others of the time, without endorsing it. I did enough independent reading about Native American tribes and specifics of the frontiers that I knew more than the general picture we were given. America Rock, as it was called, was to build up to the Bicentennial and they went through the easy stuff, like the Revolution, though massively simplified (which is the way American's like their history...U-S-A, U-S-A....). For the most part, I thought they did a fine job on most of them, though "Elbow Room" is too simplified and too ambitious. Great song, though. I thought they did a really great job with topics like immigration, via "The Great American Melting Pot," as it really celebrates the diverse places people came from and how that diversity strengthened the country. Of course, it ignores those that were prohibited from coming, by legislation, like the Chinese Exclusion Act, the troubled relationship between previous generations and each new wave of immigration (the Irish, Eastern Europeans, Asians, Latinos, East Asian and Middle Easterners, etc...), not to mention racial battles, religious battles, etc. However, it is a short cartoon, designed for young children, to whet their appetite, not be the authoritative guide to American History. "Sufferin' For Suffrage" does a great job of briefly illustrating the Women's Suffrage Movement, something that was barely even mentioned in a lot of history texts, certainly my school. It does fail in presenting non-white history, especially slavery and the Native Americans. It was a product of its time and networks were squeamish about controversial topics; but, if you look at programming since, not a lot has changed. if you look at Band of Brothers or The Pacific, you get a very white view of the war, even with the barely visible red Ball Express drivers in the Bastogne prelude. Ken Burns, in The War, which dealt with some segregation and race riots, still took heavy criticism about the absence of Native Americans, Latinos and Asians in the episodes. More often than not, those kinds of things are left to lower budget productions, like Windtalkers, Zoot Suit, or The Tuskegee Airmen. Schoolhouse Rock started as Multiplication Rock, setting multiplication tables to music, to make them memorable. It was a huge success and they expanded into grammar, but still had foul ups, like Chubby Checker animated as white, "A Noun Is A Person, Place or Thing." Science Rock followed America Rock, but had problems covering some of its subjects. They later did one for computers, but their research proved their assumptions had been false. Kids didn't have problems adapting to computers, adults did.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 7, 2023 14:27:07 GMT -5
Interesting time capsule...a one-hour special edition of CBS Evening News about the resignation of Spiro Agnew. I have fairly vague memories of Watergate, but zero memory of Agnew and his resignation. Man...Cronkite, Roger Mudd, Eric Severeid...we don't see their like any more.
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Post by berkley on Jul 7, 2023 21:25:04 GMT -5
Interesting time capsule...a one-hour special edition of CBS Evening News about the resignation of Spiro Agnew. I have fairly vague memories of Watergate, but zero memory of Agnew and his resignation. Man...Cronkite, Roger Mudd, Eric Severeid...we don't see their like any more.
I was just old enough to find it all very fascinating and watched a lot of the coverage we got on CBC back then - this was before we had access to American channels, so I never saw the newscasters or reporters you name, but I did know about Cronkite as he was so famous he'd be referenced in al kinds of US pop culture stuff, e.g. comedians, Mad magazine, etc. Watergate was one of the first big political stories I followed in the news so naturally it's kind of coloured my view of politics in general ever since - all politics, not just in the US.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Jul 8, 2023 2:23:09 GMT -5
Interesting time capsule...a one-hour special edition of CBS Evening News about the resignation of Spiro Agnew. I have fairly vague memories of Watergate, but zero memory of Agnew and his resignation. Man...Cronkite, Roger Mudd, Eric Severeid...we don't see their like any more.
I was just old enough to find it all very fascinating and watched a lot of the coverage we got on CBC back then - this was before we had access to American channels, so I never saw the newscasters or reporters you name, but I did know about Cronkite as he was so famous he'd be referenced in al kinds of US pop culture stuff, e.g. comedians, Mad magazine, etc. Watergate was one of the first big political stories I followed in the news so naturally it's kind of coloured my view of politics in general ever since - all politics, not just in the US.
Yeah, I was about 5 years old when that whole thing blew up, so it was the first big news story I remember - not that I understood any of it at the time; I just remember the word "Watergate" getting repeated what seemed like constantly, and seeing clips of Nixon's statements for the press or whatnot on our grainy black & white TV. Back then it prompted me to do impressions of him that really amused my older siblings.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 8, 2023 10:23:48 GMT -5
I don't really recall Agnew, at all; but, I wasin the second grade and not paying attention to news programs. Ford, as VP, then Prez was all I can recall, as far as Nixon's VPs.
Watergate was another matter, as the televised coverage of the hearings took over my morning cartoons of Space Angel, Rocky & Bullwinkle, Underdog, Tennessee Tuxedo and The New 3 Stooges. Damn that man and his criminal conspiracy!
I was in the hospital, having hernia surgery, when the crook finally resigned and woke up in my room, with my parents watching the tv and being vaguely aware of my mother saying the president had resigned and Ford was now president. I think I fell back to sleep, which was kind of America's reaction to Ford. Then it was a mix of bits of ABC News and Saturday Night Live sketches, as to my awareness of national news, like Patty Hearst, Three Mile Island, the incompetent Ford would-be assassins (guy couldn't catch a break....even his assassins were klutzes).
For a while, I thought Watergate was about someone leaving some kind of literal gate open that let water flood something. I didn't realize that it was a break-in at the Watergate hotel complex and that they were caught because Dr Sam Beckett pulled tape off of a fire door lock, trapping them inside, while Forrest Gump called the hotel to tell them that someone was trapped in an office, without lights.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 8, 2023 10:45:54 GMT -5
Interesting time capsule...a one-hour special edition of CBS Evening News about the resignation of Spiro Agnew. I have fairly vague memories of Watergate, but zero memory of Agnew and his resignation. Man...Cronkite, Roger Mudd, Eric Severeid...we don't see their like any more.
I was just old enough to find it all very fascinating and watched a lot of the coverage we got on CBC back then - this was before we had access to American channels, so I never saw the newscasters or reporters you name, but I did know about Cronkite as he was so famous he'd be referenced in al kinds of US pop culture stuff, e.g. comedians, Mad magazine, etc. Watergate was one of the first big political stories I followed in the news so naturally it's kind of coloured my view of politics in general ever since - all politics, not just in the US.
Eric Severeid was one of the original "Murrow Boys" who worked with Edward R. Murrow covering the war in Europe for CBS. Severeid covered the fall of France and the London Blitz as well as various other places as the war progressed. Cronkite was offered a place with CBS by Murrow and initially accepted, but then went back on the deal when UPI offered him more money to stay with them. He was one of the top reporters for United Press International during WWII and then joined CBS in 1950. Roger Mudd was about a half generation behind them and made his bones covering Congress and the Civil Rights movement.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 8, 2023 23:48:21 GMT -5
I was just old enough to find it all very fascinating and watched a lot of the coverage we got on CBC back then - this was before we had access to American channels, so I never saw the newscasters or reporters you name, but I did know about Cronkite as he was so famous he'd be referenced in al kinds of US pop culture stuff, e.g. comedians, Mad magazine, etc. Watergate was one of the first big political stories I followed in the news so naturally it's kind of coloured my view of politics in general ever since - all politics, not just in the US.
Eric Severeid was one of the original "Murrow Boys" who worked with Edward R. Murrow covering the war in Europe for CBS. Severeid covered the fall of France and the London Blitz as well as various other places as the war progressed. Cronkite was offered a place with CBS by Murrow and initially accepted, but then went back on the deal when UPI offered him more money to stay with them. He was one of the top reporters for United Press International during WWII and then joined CBS in 1950. Roger Mudd was about a half generation behind them and made his bones covering Congress and the Civil Rights movement. And today we have "info-tainment!" Isn't progress grand?
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Post by Rob Allen on Jul 9, 2023 12:16:30 GMT -5
I remember watching the Republican convention in 1968, and seeing Nixon announce his somewhat surprising choice of running mate, "Governor Agnew of Maryland". Most of America had never heard of Agnew. Over the next few years he became known as Nixon's attack dog, with rhetoric that "could have served as the blueprint for the culture wars of the next twenty-to-thirty years, including the claim that Democrats were soft on crime, unpatriotic, and favored flag burning rather than flag waving", in the words of one historian which I lifted from Wikipedia. Agnew was known for colorful phrases, berating the left as "an effete corps of impudent snobs" and "nattering nabobs of negativism".
In the summer of 1973 my family went on vacation, and when we got back we found out that Agnew was in legal trouble. He resigned early in my senior year of high school. The next summer we went away again and by the time we got back, Nixon had resigned. I graduated from high school during the Nixon administration and started college in the Ford administration. It was an interesting time.
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