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Post by rberman on Jul 8, 2018 16:10:37 GMT -5
One of those hookers looks suspiciously like Black Canary. Well, when you think about Black Canary's costume in the first place...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2018 18:56:13 GMT -5
rberman -- I have a friend at my LCS and he's an Alan Moore fan and he's pulling these stories as I e-mailed him the titles and when you done with this top ten list -- I'll get all of these 10 stories and read them when I can. Looks quite interesting and might enjoy reading his work here.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 8, 2018 19:02:56 GMT -5
It's a 12 issue series.
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Post by rberman on Jul 8, 2018 19:09:24 GMT -5
rberman -- I have a friend at my LCS and he's an Alan Moore fan and he's pulling these stories as I e-mailed him the titles and when you done with this top ten list -- I'll get all of these 10 stories and read them when I can. Looks quite interesting and might enjoy reading his work here. Top Ten is the name, in the story, for the dimension where this particular police precinct is located. Anyway, get all twelve issues; you will enjoy them! I got them in the TPB. I will also be covering the prequel series Top 10: The 49ers.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2018 23:28:44 GMT -5
rberman -- I have a friend at my LCS and he's an Alan Moore fan and he's pulling these stories as I e-mailed him the titles and when you done with this top ten list -- I'll get all of these 10 stories and read them when I can. Looks quite interesting and might enjoy reading his work here. Top Ten is the name, in the story, for the dimension where this particular police precinct is located. Anyway, get all twelve issues; you will enjoy them! I got them in the TPB. I will also be covering the prequel series Top 10: The 49ers. My friend and I didn't realized that this was a 12 issue series and he had an extra copy of the 12 issue run and I'll be getting it next Friday for me to read. He said to me that I can keep it for myself. So, I'll reading that real soon.
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Post by rberman on Jul 9, 2018 7:56:15 GMT -5
#7 “Sergeant Hector Monsoon in: Cop You Later!” (April 2000)
Cover Tag: Thou Hast the Right to Remain Silent… The Libra Case: M’rrgla Qualtz mesmerizes Hector “Monsoon” Lopez and almost gets him to unlock her jail cell. Beware the telepathic porn star! The psychic fantasy takes the form of a cheesy video: Micro-Maid informs Airbag Soames that he has contracted S.T.O.R.M.S. from a hooker. Members of Qualtz’ former hero team, the Seven Sentinels, arrive in outrage over her arrest. She presents herself to them as a helpless naked woman rather than a raging monster. The Boots and Saddle Case: John “King Peacock” Corbeau, a calm, muscular black man who worships a Muslim variant of Satan, is assigned to find out who Professor Gromolko’s off-world contact is. Somebody in another dimension, which apparently is unusual. His first stop will be the teleport center. The Norse Case: I won’t give a blow-by-blow, but the upshot is that Toybox, Smaxx, and Synaesthesia interview gods from various world pantheons trying to determine who killed Baldur. The punchline is anticlimactic, and the whole story is just a lark that doesn’t impact the other concurrent police work. One of the cops even calls the affair “pointless.” It’s just Moore having a bit of fun with a mythology-themed “side quest” that could have easily been worked into League of Extraordinary Gentleman or some other series. Other Story Stuff: Neural ‘Nette comes to call on Kemlo Caesar and invite him to dinner. She’s cleaned up nicely and is almost unrecognizable from her hooker look. The Ghostly Goose appears to be the chair on which Phantom Jack is sitting in the cafeteria, which I suppose means he is a shape-changer a la plastic man. My Two Cents: Smaxx is looking unusually tall in this issue; Toybox and Synaesthesia only come up to his waist, but even he is a head shorter than the gods in the Godz bar. Toybox is dressing differently today, which makes sense both just as a normal thing (why would she wear the same clothes every day, unless it’s the required uniform?) and because her original outfit is not suitable for winter weather. We were talking in another thread about the value that letterers can add to a comic book. This one is a good example; the various gods speak in a various fonts to imply their accents. Lokk says at one point, “This is America. I got rights.” This as far as I know is the first dialogue placing Neopolis in a particular country. Easter Eggs: The Godz bar has plenty of deity-based sight and dialogue gags that I won’t enumerate. p.1: The issue title “Cop You Later” is a pun on “Copulator” since Qualtz is trying to mesmerize Monsoon with a sexual fantasy to win her release from jail. p.12: lots of graffiti in the Godz bathroom. “Oedipus was a mother f*******,” “Charybdis Sucks,” “Nice melons, Kali baby,” that kind of thing. p.18: Bucky Barnes is a bum sitting on the street with his neck tilted at an odd angle and a sign in his lap: “Really Dead. Please Help!” Black Bolt (I think? But he has marionette red circles on his cheeks) strolls beside him.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 9, 2018 10:28:02 GMT -5
Loved this issue; there was some really fun stuff in it, especially some of the graffitti. It grabbed me the moment Lokk spoke in colloquial English, rather than Stan Lee pseudo-Shakespeare. This was why I read and loved this series: there was plenty of mystery, action, rounded characters and a lot of fun. That stood out in the period.
Hector's costume threw me at first. I recognized the lucha libre stylings; but didn't quite get the designs, until I got a better shot of it and realized it is a weather map.
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Post by rberman on Jul 9, 2018 11:18:54 GMT -5
Hector's costume threw me at first. I recognized the lucha libre stylings; but didn't quite get the designs, until I got a better shot of it and realized it is a weather map. Moore was deliberatly stingy with code names. He's been referred to as "Hector Lopez" throughout the series, but his alter ego "Monsoon" wasn't mentioned until now, IIRC. The lady with the duplicates doesn't get a code name until the last issue.
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Post by rberman on Jul 10, 2018 5:51:44 GMT -5
#8 “The Overview” (June 2000)The Libra Case: M’rrgla Qualtz’s former teammate in the Seven Sentinels, Captain Boomerang, is also a lawyer who argues that Qualtz “was simply obeying her biological imperatives” when she decapitated ten people to eat their pineal glands. Qualtz telepathically goads Phantom Jack with a vision of the two of them in the throes of passion. An enraged Jack threatens Qualtz’s life and stalks off. Qualtz has this “playing the victim” act down pat; look at her leer on the left side of the panel below! The Boots and Saddle Case: Commissioner Ultima informs Captain Traynor that she will be visiting Top Ten in the near future. He tells her about King Peacock’s imminent fact-finding trip to Nova Roma, looking for Professor Gromolko’s off-world contact. The Traffic Wreck: A collision between two spaceships trying to use the teleport facilities simultaneously means grisly work for Lieutenenant Peregrine and Officer McCambridge, who apparently can transform into duplicates of herself which have different powers. One of the drivers, a skyscraper-sized horse-man, is mainly disturbed that his accident is disrupting his participation in the Game between the Great White and the Great Black. That is, he’s the knight in a giant chess game. The two people in the other vehicle find their bodies partly embedded in that of the knight, and they die (one slowly, one quickly) before the issue is over. My Two Cents: It’s Lieutenant Peregrine’s focus issue. We open on her domestic life, as she leaves her sleeping, balding husband in bed, takes her shower, dons her costume and a cross necklace (not a crucifix, so Protestant rather than Catholic) into her shirt. She later tells the dying man that she is a Christian, and she stays longer than necessary at the crash site to provide solace to him as he “goes on a journey” into the afterlife. At the end of the issue, she kneels in prayer near the corpses. It’s a far more respectful treatment of Christianity than most comic books give. And yet, when given an opportunity to giving a dying man the comfort of her faith, she chokes, stammering evasively. Maybe she’s not accustomed to evangelism? In the end it’s the dying horse-man who provides an inspirational message about light conquering darkness. This issue specifically credits “Gene Ha: Pencils and Inks; Zander Cannon: Layouts.” “A.E.” is Neopolis slang for “alter ego,” as in “Bruce Wayne is the A.E. of Batman.” (spoilers?) Easter Eggs: Cover: A fun homage to portable video games, with Girl 1 playing as herself, assisted by Irma Geddon, and the other characters depicted as headshots reminiscent of an old JLA Crisis cover. On page 11, we see Girl 1 actually playing this video game, which is tablet-sized. She’s enraged by how much she dies in the game (p. 16). p.1: Peregrine’s husband wears a watch shaped like Superman’s chest symbol. Apparently this is a reference to Battle of the Planets, whose heroes wore bird-motif costumes, so it makes sense that Peregrine would marry one of them. There’s a portrait of the Fantastic Four on the bathroom wall of their spacious home. Her radio plays two songs, one titled “Ugliness Am Beauty” by The Imperfect Duplicates (i.e. Bizarros). Also an advertisement for a feminine hygiene product called “Paradise Pads” whose selling point is that it is “untouched by the hands of man” when you are “fighting crime, even at that special time.” p.3: This issue is loaded with scenes of many flying characters and vehicles, and all of them are sight gags. This one panel has the Tantive IV “Blockade Runner” from Star Wars, a “Joust” knight mounted on a flying buzzard, as well as flying monkeys from the Wizard of Oz, and more. The top half of the Baxter Building appears to have been ripped free and is floating in the sky. The next panel has a car with Plastic Man, Elongated Man, and Jimmy Olsen’s Elastic Lad literally rubbernecking the accident. Two panels later, Thomas the Tank Engine flies by. p.12: Astro Boy sails through the sky. p.14: Falcon sails in from the left side of the page; Man-Bat is flying right. Dawnstar is in the middle. Warren Worthington from X-Men is far right. It’s a crowded sky due the traffic jam! p.20: A man in a fez appears to be carrying the bottle city of Kandor upside down, despite a “this side up” arrow on the side. Come on, dude! p.22: Grand Central has an advertisement for “Vacation on Infinite Earths!” Awesome. Pariah leads Firestorm and other heroes in a conga line. It’s a crowded scene full of characters. Directional signs for dimension travelers show them how to get to “Earths 1-10,” “Earths A-G,” etc. I can’t even begin to name all the characters in this scene, but Neil Gaiman’s “Sandman” and “Death” are at the lower right, and just to their left are the versions of Spock, Uhura, and Captain Kirk who inhabit the Mirror Dimension. (They’re wearing sashes, Spock has a goatee, etc.) OK, one more: Members of the Crime Syndicate (Ultraman, etc.) are flying top left. I can’t imagine how much fun Cannon and Ha had populating this panel, and this issue in general. P23: Robbie the Robot is far left of the first panel. Too many other characters on this page, and I don’t know them all but am 100% each of them is somebody particular, if you know what I mean.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 10, 2018 10:48:03 GMT -5
That's Marvel's Nightmare with DC's Sandman.
The robot at the information desk is from Fritz Lang's Metropolis.
Mirror Master is just in front of the info desk. I looks like Amazo is there, to the right of the sign, standing above the crowd. It looks like one of the alternate world Captain Britains, to the left of King Peacock.
In the flying scene, Jack Kirby's Black Racer (New Gods) is just behind Girl 1, flying just above the flying wing craft. I was never sure if the flying wing was an homage to Raiders of the Lost Ark (not the same type of design), War of the Worlds (closer; but not the same) or just an inclusion because of the futuristic design. Probably the latter. A Sentinel is just below and forward of Dawnstar; and, Vulture is just flying into frame, on the lower left corner.
I believe that is supposed to be Moon Knight'a helicopter, in the first flying panel, just below Peregrine's left arm.
The Baxter Building, is, obviously, an homage to FF #6, where Doctor Doom and Sub-Mariner lift the building into space.
This was a great issue, both on the visual side and with the scenes of the crash and at the stationhouse. Just a nice mix of story elements.
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Post by mikelmidnight on Jul 10, 2018 11:54:51 GMT -5
It looks like one of the alternate world Captain Britains, to the left of King Peacock. Captain England, one of the ones created by Moore.
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Post by rberman on Jul 11, 2018 4:33:27 GMT -5
#9 “Rules of Engagement” (October 2000)
Cover Tag: When in Rome… The Libra Case: M’rrgla Qualtz threatens to out Captain Traynor as gay, and I find myself surprised that less than 20 years ago, that seemed like catastrophe-level blackmail. She’s worried that her teammates in the Seven Sentinels will try to kill her, but she won’t say why. The Boots and Saddle Case: King Peacock arrives in Nova Roma on the police headquarters dimensoin of Grand Central to investigate Gromolko’s local contact, but instead he finds himself shanghaied into a deadly gladiatorial arena tourney, courtesy of Police Commissioner Ultima. Why is she trying to knock him off of the trail? Other Story Stuff: Duane finds that the battle in his mom’s apartment between the Atom Cats and the Ultra-Mice has escalated, with tiny versions of cat-Galactus ( Galactapuss) and a Mickey Mouse/Eternity hybrid ( Cosmouse) now weighing in on the conflict. Driving through the red-light district, Peter spies Kemlo making out with Neural ‘Nette on the sidewalk. Also, Irma Geddon’s husband gets a terrible feeling that something is going to befall her. This is bad, because his power is precognition. My Two Cents: It’s the King Peacock focus issue. Toybox has faded far into the background in these last few issues. Moore is really reveling in the goofiness at this point; the whole Galactapuss/Cosmouse thing is Captain Carrot-level camp. Publication dates are stretching. The first six issues were monthly. Then the next two were bimonthly. Then this one came four months later. The final three issues stretch out over the next twelve months. Easter Eggs:p.2: I won’t try to enumerate all the superheroes represented by cats and mice, but trust me that there are a lot of them. p.4 Seamy storefronts include “Journey into Mammary: Most X-citing pics of all space-time!” and “Tools of Suspense: Iron Rod and Captain Ramerica” and “Amazing Adult Fantasy Gifts.” p.6: Marvel’s version of Hercules (lower left) is among the Greco-Roman characters hanging out in Grand Central's teleport hub. The next few pages have lots of mythological sight gages, including hippocampi, a bus shaped like the Trojan Horse, robot guards wearing Comedia and Tragedia masks, a female Heracles clad only in Nemean lionskin, “Atlas World Transport,” cyborg musclemen Romulus and Remus, and the like. p. 14: Back in Neopolis, Hawkwoman (with a Blackhawks logo on her chest, for good measure) feeds Mr. Mind to her three similarly attired babies in their nest, while three members of the Astro City Honor Guard (Bouncing Beatnik, Starwoman, and Clepoatra I) fly into the distance. p.15: A shubby balding mustached guy looks a lot like Dennis Franz, so the blond guy beside him must be Ricky Schroeder, both cops on the TV show NYPD Blue, one of the most obvious inspirations for Top Ten. Two panels below, Hamburglar exists the precinct house. p.16: Marvin the Martian sits on the left lower part of the first panel with his big green dog. p.19: A actual sailor (heart tattoo on his arm and everything) wears a yellow and purple Sailor Moon costume. In “Club Eternal,” various figures are silhouetted in the windows. I’m 90% sure that the upper right window has the MST3K guys in it, and Speed Racer is lower right. This was Moore's chance to show which characters can be recognized at a distance by silhouette, like his own silhouetted nuclear blast lovers from "Watchmen," who reappear here middle right. Marvin (from Super Friends) stands on the lower left, in front of Speed Buggy and crew.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 11, 2018 19:52:01 GMT -5
In the first panel, Alan Moore is one of the slaves, in the lower left. The two Minotaur surround a fallen Xena. The Little Caesars mascot is on the middle right, waving. The MWA letters on the Minotaur's hoodie is probably a reference to rappers NWA, rather than a nod to the National Wrestling Alliance.
My favorite of the Ultra-Mice is the one with the eyepatch, which is a nod to the British cartoon hero, Dangermouse. Too bad there wasn't a little hamster next to him, for Penfold.
The Forever People are on their super bike, in front of the police cruiser, in the red light district. The actual flying pink elephant is a nice touch, given what usually goes in in neighborhoods like that.
In the arrival panel, that's not just the Marvel Hercules. the crowd consists of him, the DC Hercules Unbound, the cartoon Mighty Hercules and standing behind them is Steve Reeves, as Hercules. The blue guy is one of the Hercules statues, though I can't quite pin down the exact one, as it shares elements of several.
The trio of giants, to the right of Hawkwoman, are Clint Barton, as Goliath; Elasti-Girl, from the Doom Patrol, and Stumbo, from Harvey Comics.
At the arena, in the lower left, are Madeline Khan, Gregory Hines and Mel Brooks, from History of the World, Part I. Marvin and his dog, K-9, are behind them. On the right side, you can see Asterix and Obelix, the Golden Age Hyppolyta, the winged creature (with the woman's head) from the Sadko aka The Magic Voyage of Sinbad; Elsie, the Borden's cow mascot, the skeleton warriors from Jason and the Argonauts, and George Perez's Ares. The popcorn vendor would be Ceres (or Demeter, in Greek myth); can't quite figure out who the two people are, just behind her right shoulder (panel left).
The bottom panel: if those are the Mysties, it's not very accurate. I wouldn't bet much on Speed Racer, in the lower right window. The silhouette third from the left looks a bit like a dog, so it could be the Scooby gang, Wonder og, or just my imagination. Just outside the club, to the right and in back of the crowd are the Hair Bear Bunch. I think those are characters from Elfquest, in front. The head that makes up the club is a mix of Eson the Searcher and Arishem the Judge, of the Celestials (with tweaking and other Celestial elements).
The threatening to out Capt. Traynor is not without precedent, even in the time period. Don't Ask, Don't Tell was still a fairly recent policy, in the military and being a gay man in a position of authority was still something that was rarely made public, especially with something like the police force.
I'm not 100% certain about the timeline; but, I think the delay in issues was partially related to work on the 49ers graphic novel. It seems to me that it had been announced and the work was ongoing, coincidental to the regular series.
I enjoyed the fact that this was more of an ensemble, than just everything through Robyn's eyes. She will get plenty of attention ahead, as well as in the Smax mini-series. This has a nice mix of the cast and lets us in more on King Peacock, while also making a bit of commentary about the "greatness" of ancient Rome.
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Post by chadwilliam on Jul 11, 2018 20:38:37 GMT -5
You know, I bitched about Moore's work on Killing Joke/Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow? over at the 'There I Said It' thread and while I stand by everything I ranted about over there, Top Ten really is a thing of beauty. Some really genuinely affecting moments, a completely believable cast set against the backdrop of some nigh impossible to believe ideas (though you can't help but take Moore's word for even the most incredible of developments - Crisis on Infinite Earths as played out by Superpowered rats and cats? - so sincere is his writing), and a seemingly limitless amount of thought devoted to even the minutest corners of this world (though Moore has to share the credit for that with Gene Ha, of course).
Really hoping that this thread continues on with the five issue Smax mini-series and The 49ers.
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Post by rberman on Jul 11, 2018 21:47:23 GMT -5
I'm not 100% certain about the timeline; but, I think the delay in issues was partially related to work on the 49ers graphic novel. It seems to me that it had been announced and the work was ongoing, coincidental to the regular series. I enjoyed the fact that this was more of an ensemble, than just everything through Robyn's eyes. She will get plenty of attention ahead, as well as in the Smax mini-series. This has a nice mix of the cast and lets us in more on King Peacock, while also making a bit of commentary about the "greatness" of ancient Rome. The Forty-Niners series came out in 2005; I have it in TPB. I have ordered the Smax TPB also, but it hasn't arrived yet. I am sure Moore had plenty of other irons in the fire with America's Best Comics around this time. I did feel like Moore ran out of Robyn-related material early, but that's OK; giving some of the other characters a focus issue in the second half of the series did not hurt. Really hoping that this thread continues on with the five issue Smax mini-series and The 49ers. Your wish is my command! I will do 49ers while waiting for Smax to arrive. I also just belatedly realized that "Smax" unlike "The Maxx" only has one X.
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