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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 12, 2018 0:08:33 GMT -5
You know, I bitched about Moore's work on Killing Joke/Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow? over at the 'There I Said It' thread and while I stand by everything I ranted about over there, Top Ten really is a thing of beauty. Some really genuinely affecting moments, a completely believable cast set against the backdrop of some nigh impossible to believe ideas (though you can't help but take Moore's word for even the most incredible of developments - Crisis on Infinite Earths as played out by Superpowered rats and cats? - so sincere is his writing), and a seemingly limitless amount of thought devoted to even the minutest corners of this world (though Moore has to share the credit for that with Gene Ha, of course). Really hoping that this thread continues on with the five issue Smax mini-series and The 49ers. The Moore of the America's Best Comics line is the moore that crafted the DC and Warrior classics; but, this is him having fun, without editorial restriction or "input." He gets to play with the conventions of comic book heroes and adventure, in all of the books. He gets to be funny, poignant, horrific, terrifying, angry, sad, happy and anything else he feels like. LOEG got all of the attention; but, Promethea, Tom Strong and Top Ten are all fantastic books and Tomorrow Stories and Tom Strong's Terrific Tales are fine anthologies, with work from several points of view. Terra Obscura had Moore's input in setting it up; but, it was handed off to others, who did a fine job. There was nothing I didn't like about the ABC Comics. They were what comics used to be, for me, and were something more than they had been.
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Post by rberman on Jul 12, 2018 6:20:36 GMT -5
#10 “Music for the Dead” (Jan 2001)
Cover Tag: Officer Down The Boots and Saddle Case: Toybox and Smax catch up with teen pop star Bluejay on the floor of Club Eternal. He’s a supposed suicide, but not a good fake, since the bullets came from behind him. Police Commissioner Ultima comes calling. She’s dismissive to the police staff, calls Micro-Maid a “Nubian” (i.e. negro), and seems generally insufferable. Synaesthesia recognizes the sound (i.e. the aroma) of Ultima’s perfume from the corpse of Saddle Graczik, which means Ultima, the boss of all police, is the criminal mastermind. Gulp! But she's not one to back away from doing her sworn duty... A fight breaks out in the cafeteria, and before Ultima is subdued, Sung Li is dead, and Toybox is wounded and trapped under rubble… with the fabled Rumor. The Libra Case: M’rrgla Qualtz is another casualty of Ultima’s battle with the police. The end? Other Story Stuff: Captain Traynor gives Kemlo Caesar dating advice: “Follow your heart.” Thanks, boss! My Two Cents: This issue is all about Ultima, but mainly about fighting her. I like how the characters come in such a wide range of heights; Ultima and Smax must be nine or ten feet tall, though the world around them isn't consistently shown to be large enough to handle such goliaths. What would motivate a police commissioner to go rotten? "Drugs" is a pretty reasonable answer. The name of Ultima's perfume “Joy” is a pun, since as a perfume it would be “Eau de Joy,” i.e. “Ode to Joy.” This is a section of Beethoven’s Ninth Symphony, the melody of which Synaesthesia hears when she smells the Joy perfume. This melody is used in the hymn “Joyful, Joyful, We Adore Thee.” The issue title "Music for the Dead" thus refers to Synaesthesia hearing "Ode to Joy" when she smells "Eau de Joy" on both Ultima and the dead body of Saddle. Alan Moore loves puns. This also recalls the Beethoven joke in "V for Vendetta," in which one of the many meanings of "V" was the Roman numeral V, representing 5 in Beethoven's fifth symphony: Speaking of the number 5, Back in Top Ten #5, I wondered aloud if it was taking place at Halloween. The first panel of this issue specifies “October 14th, 1999” so the answer to my previous question is “No.” I guess that robot kid just likes doing a cosplay mashing up Dr. Doom and Charlie Brown. The Rumor “reveal” is anticlimactic. We heard of his possible existence in an early issue. OK, now we see that he exists, but he doesn’t actually do anything, and when Toybox later mentions having seen him, others just shrug. It seemed like Moore, having mentioned The Rumor in an early issue, felt obliged to close that loop by having him make a cameo, no matter how inconsequential, but it would have been nice for him to contribute to Robyn's rescue in some fashion. Easter Eggs: p.3: A hallucinatory pixie circling Bluejay’s corpse looks like Amethyst, Princess of Gemworld. His gun is called a “shooter.” Jim Shooter perhaps? (And if so, does the gun also resurrect dead characters so that they can be re-used before their trademark lapses?) p. 5: Will Shakespeare roams the hall of the precinct house. p.9: A mural of former super-cops is said to be by “King,” surely a reference to Jack “King” Kirby. One of the officers looks like Jor-El, and another like Joan of Arc. The mural is a teaser for the characters of the Forty-Niners graphic novel. One of them is Toybox's father Colonel Lilliput, but nobody treats Robyn like the daughter of a man famous enough to have his painting in the lobby.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 12, 2018 12:36:27 GMT -5
"Shooter" is British police and criminal slang for a firearm. I think that is the more likely context, rather than a reference to Jim Shooter; especially as Moore never worked for him.
Beethoven's Fifth and Morse Code have a real world and comic book link. It was a morse code signal during the Operation Overlord D-Day landings, as ships flashed it (see the early part of the movie, The Longest Day): V for Victory. In the comics, that was the symbol for Fawcett's Spy Smasher and the music and the morse code was used in the openings of each chapter of the classic Republic serial.
In the first panel, that is John Belushi's samurai character, at the serving counter. One of the SNL sketches with the character was "Samurai Delicatessen."
(can't seem to get the link to work in the "insert video" function")
In the panel next to the Shakespeare one, that is Amazo, as the spite floating around, mumbling gibberish.
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Post by rberman on Jul 13, 2018 5:39:43 GMT -5
#11 “His First Day on the New Job” (May 2001)
Cover Tag: His First Day on the New Job… (This is the first time the same text was on both the cover and page 1.) The Libra Case: All of the members of the Sidekix boy band were indeed former sidekicks of heroes. Now one of them, Bluejay, has been murdered right before giving a big story to the newspaper. Before her death, M’rrgla Qualtz had implied to Captain Traynor that her team-mates in the Seven Sentinels had molested their teen partners. Coincidence? The Boots and Saddle Case: Our heroes assess the damage from the big battle with Police Commissioner Ultima last issue. There would be tons of paperwork, Internal Affairs interviews, and media coverage for an event like that, but we don't see any of it. The replacement for deceased Sung Li is a robot cop named Joe Pi who looks like a Shogun Warrior. He endures frequent episodes of anti-android prejudice with grace and wit, getting way more dialogue than anyone else this issue. Shock-Headed Peter, on the other hand, lets his racism against "clickers" (A.I.s) all hang out. At Sung Li’s funeral, her police friends meet the two inventors who bio-engineered her, “Weird Science” style. Both of them have alliterative comic book names: The Incredible Case: Back in issue #1, we met the aged stretch-guy, Mr. Incredible. Later, we saw him arguing on the street after a fender bender. Now he’s a stretchy corpse in an alley, with sand in his lungs. His wife Beach Bunny is an obvious suspect. My Two Cents: Smax visits Toybox in the hospital. She’s been kept for observation for a week, which shows some combination of “how medical care has changed since the 90s” and “Alan Moore doesn’t know much about medical care” since her injuries (apparently, a concussion and broken ankle) are nowhere near enough to justify that length of stay. People don't tend to spend weeks in traction for broken limbs anymore; they get internal metal rods to hold their healing bones in place. But Moore clearly wants Toybox sidelined to make room for his new favorite, Joe Pi. He even steals her "First Day on the Job" tag line. Poor Robyn! But Joe Pi is worth it, getting lots of good moments in both plot and character. Easter Eggs:p. 1: Will Shakespeare makes another appearance. Joe Pi is from Turingville, a reference to Alan Turing, the computing pioneer. p.6: “Plastic Stan’s Furniture” has a Stan Lee head on its sign. A man shambles away from a trash can holding a super-hero costume, recreating a famous Spider-Man cover image (and all of its subsequent homages). p.7: Graffiti mentions Tetuso from the anime Akira. Shock-Headed Peter sings a parody of Jimi Hendrix’s song “Hey Joe.” (image above) p12: A billboard advertises “Soylent Green: For people who like people” (chortle) Tarzan swings through the city in the distance. Doctor Fate is a physician (right side of the panel in the hospital window). The bandaged men in the lower left are probably Negative Man (from the Doom Patrol) and the Unknown Soldier. Is that red bi-plane from Laff-O-Lympics? There should have been a bigger hospital shot than just this one, to fit in all the different "Doctors" of genre fiction. Doctor Who, Doctor Octopus... the list goes on. p.21: Beside the tomb of Oscar Wilde stands his creation Dorian Gray, as well as The Hanged Man from Astro City. Well, the Hanged Man is more floating than standing, as usual. p22: Three color-coded super-girls fly through the air. Are they the Powerpuff Girls? Lots of graffiti on a bridge, including “Justice League of Akron.”
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 13, 2018 6:48:07 GMT -5
The Powerpuff girls are different colors, but I suspect that's probably the idea... the car on the bridgr is very batmobile like, too.
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Post by rberman on Jul 13, 2018 7:21:06 GMT -5
The Powerpuff girls are different colors, but I suspect that's probably the idea... the car on the bridgr is very batmobile like, too. Yes, "right hero, wrong color" is the general rule in Top Ten. I think the vehicle is the Top Ten version of a police motorcycle.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 13, 2018 12:24:25 GMT -5
It's the Powerpuff Girls. Plastic Stan is wearing Plastic Man's goggles, to further the connection. Mickey Millions is a pretty obvious homage, though Roy Radium seems more of a generic type, than a specific homage, unless someone else recognizes him. The red biplane belongs to Dick Dastardly, of Wacky Races and Dastardly & Muttley and Their Flying Machines. One of my favorite cartoons, as a young child. Also seen in the hospital, consulting with Dr Fate appears to be Dr Strange, based on the hair and mustache. Below them, in the lower portion of the panel, is the Doctor, from the Authority. Over on the left is Ma Hunkel, aka Red Tornado, with two kids with pots stuck to their heads, much like her helmet mask. Just below Dastardly's plane is Zokk, of the Herculoids. At the nurse's desk it appears to be Crimson Fox, though I don't get the connection there. Might be someone else. There is a Doctor Who cameo, at the hospital; but, it might be a different issue. I distinctly recall seeing the Tom Baker Doctor in one scene, in one of the issues. Any scene with graffiti is always great fun to read. With the futuristic look of the city, there are often architectural easter eggs, some deliberate, some just in the style of things. I'd have to look through the books again; but, I am pretty sure the central tower of the Fritz Lang Metropolis appears at least once or twice. Another beuilding, in an earlier issue, had a famous art deco building decoration, which appeared to be a winged man with helmet... Mike Grell also used it in Shaman's Tears. I believe the police station from Blade Runner turns up in an issue (might have been something similar). We've seen the Baxter Building and the Hall of Justice, before. The Mr Incredible and Beach Bunny story gets into an area of the FF that was always troublesome and Moore takes it to a logical conclusion. I really enjoyed this issue, as it introduced a great character and did the standard racist cop must work with minority partner cliche; but, does it in a slightly different way, much like the original Alien Nation movie.
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Post by rberman on Jul 14, 2018 7:57:48 GMT -5
#12 “Court on the Street” (October 2001)
Cover Tag: Court on the Street The Libra Case: Phantom Jack and Peregrine watch hours of Seven Sentinels newsreel footage to get clues about possible sexual abuse of their sidekicks. Not only do they find vivid evidence of such abuse, they also realize that the Sentinels’ alleged triumphs over evils in outer space were all faked. The Boots and Saddle Case: Top Ten raids the Seven Sentinels and finds that Boots Wesson has been recently recruited as a junior Sentinel. See, we knew these two cases would come together eventually! Most of the Sentinels are caught with their pants down (literally, in a giant Jacuzzi) and arrested without incident. Two others go down fighting. The Young Sentinels are taken into protective custody as witnesses. Atoman poses the biggest threat, holed up in an impregnable fortress, but Joe Pi goads him into committing suicide. Cat and Mouse Game: The battle between the Ultra-Mice and the Atom Cats has altered the timestream so that their epic battle never happened. So when the Ex-Verminator comes back to get paid by Duane’s mom, nobody knows what he’s talking about. Bummer! Note that the Ex-Verminator’s leather gimp mask consists of the letters “X” and V.” Other Story: Joe Pi helps Mr. Geddon the precog get a job with a physics lab, and tactfully distracts the Geddon kids when they start asking about the noises that mommy and daddy are making together upstairs. My Two Cents: Joe Pi steals the show of these final two issues, making me wonder why he wasn’t introduced earlier, even made the star of the whole series. Moore seemed to lose interest in apparent protagonist Robyn “Toybox” Slinger after the first few issues. Her toys weren’t put to their obvious reconnaissance uses even when they would have been helpful, as in looking for M’rrgla in the sewer. They were probably all crushed in the rubble at the end of #10, too. Does she still have a job without them? I guess Captain Traynor has no super-powers either, though in The Forty-Niners, we'll see that he does have an airplane. Easter Eggs:p. 4: The band “Blues Beetles” recreates the famous Beatles rooftop concert. Band members include Beetle Bailey and Blue Beetle, but Ringo is still on drums. p.15: The “Green Apple/Green Grocer: Neal O’Neil, proprietor” marketplace is my favorite sight gag yet. “Good Vibranium” pales in comparison. p.17: The Hound’s secret dog-cave includes a giant fire hydrant and a dog-catcher’s net. His spare costumes include “Aquadog” (underwater), “Space Dog” (astronaut), and “Hot Dog” (fireman). p.25: Amazo Copies and Stanley Lieber’s Hyper-Bowling. You know, it’s striking for a DC comic (the Green Apple joke above notwithstanding) that few of the Easter eggs are about Weisinger, Swan, Perez, Aparo, Levitz, Siegel, Finger, etc. p.27: The Evel Knievel bus drives by. p.30: A newspaper warns: “Global Vampire Alert!” Goku (from Dragonball Z) works in the kitchen at Topo’s restaurant. There have been relatively few anime references in Top Ten, all things considered. I guess it's a big genre all its own.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 14, 2018 10:43:04 GMT -5
Notice in the panel with the Ex-Verminator: the famous "Hang in there Kitty" poster has been updated for this world, with a cat in a Captain Marvel costume and space helmet, hanging from a vane of Sputnik.
Robyn got her screen time in the series and I think the reduced visibility in the latter half was perpetuated by he being one of the central characters in the Smax mini-series, which got a bit of a set-up, when Jaff gets a vision of his uncle.
The pedophile angle got more than a bit of play, in this era, between The Bratpak, from Rick Veitch, and Brian Michael Bendis' Powers.
Re: the Marvel vs DC easter eggs; there was a panel in one issue of Batman walking with Midnighter, of the Authority. I think DC is well represented, if you look across the whole series. Plenty of non-comics references, too.
Speaking of Easter eggs, one of the Sentinels is pretty much a Popeye pastiche. Don't know if that means the kid in the sailor suit is Sweetpea, though.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 14, 2018 22:04:12 GMT -5
Looking at the pic, seems like they're going for a JSA vibe with the Sentinels... The one in the air has a Starman-like rod... Dogman definitely reminds of Wildcat... there's an Atomman, and the one on the right has an pretty Hourman-like costume. Then there's Popeye, but that's ok, he's cool
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Post by rberman on Jul 14, 2018 22:11:16 GMT -5
Looking at the pic, seems like they're going for a JSA vibe with the Sentinels... The one in the air has a Starman-like rod... Dogman definitely reminds of Wildcat... there's an Atomman, and the one on the right has an pretty Hourman-like costume. Then there's Popeye, but that's ok, he's cool That makes sense, because the Seven Sentinels are supposed to be the legacy team. Atoman is shown fighting Nazis in The Forty-Niners, so at least some of these heroes (or their predecessors) have been around over fifty years.
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Post by rberman on Jul 15, 2018 7:22:34 GMT -5
The Forty-Niners (2005) Chapter 1: What Is Believable After WarThe German Story: Steven “Jetlad” Traynor was a child prodigy at shooting down Nazis from his airplane. Now the war is over, and he’s a sixteen year old coming to Neopolis (I had to correct myself after instinctively typing "Astro City" first), a wonder-city constucted by German scientists who came to America after the war. Jetlad hopes to join a famed flying squadron The Skysharks. On the train, he meets his former opponent Leni “Skywitch” Muller, a German broom-flier who defected to the Allied cause in 1943. They commiserate over their low status compared to the defected German scientists who are treated like royalty, including Professor Gromolko. Mayor “ Johnny Q. Public” Genovese warns an auditorium of new arrivals not to try to play vigilante. The Vampire Story: Steven and Leni happen upon a bar containing the Skysharks, who immediately offer Steven a job as their mechanic. Leni only gets a suggestion to become a club singer. Then a couple of vampire toughs from the Irenescu gang try to extort protection money from the barkeep until super-cops Steelgauntlet and The Maid intervene. My Two Cents: This graphic novel contains four chapters weaving together two main cop stories, as did the original Top Ten series. Alan Moore still writes. Gene Ha is alone on pencils and ink, with Art Lyon on colors, mainly in sepia-looking watercolor hues intended to evoke the era through faded photographs. It looks great while setting a mood which is less whimsical and jocular than Top Ten, with fewer sight gags and a tighter focus on Steven primarily, and Leni secondarily. Leni and Steven take separate rooms in the same boarding house, but I’m pretty sure boarding houses were segregated in our world in the 1940s. Being an Alan Moore story, we get our first mention of prostitution within a few pages, as it’s suggested that nightclub singers moonlight to make some money on the side. After the thoughtful portrayal of race relations in Top Ten, this story seems like a step back. All Eastern Europeans are Vampires, and all Vampires are evil people who will only be accepted in society if they can be contained. Some races are just bad, apparently. Easter Eggs: p.8: A store is named after artist/editor Carmine Infantino. p.9: “David Goodman Croley” is said to have been the president (of the USA). Martin Goodman published Marvel Comics, but I don't know if that's the reference that Moore intends here. p.10: Bluto is on the steps of City Hall. A War of the Worlds tripod stalks the streets. p.14: The Rocketeer’s helmet sits on a shelf. The older Oriental woman seen in the bar on pages 16-22 is called “The Jaguar Lady” at one point, which may not be what she calls herself. Impact Comics did have an early 90s female character named “The Jaguar,” but she was Brazilian, not Asian, so I don’t know who this Jaguar Lady is.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 15, 2018 10:45:09 GMT -5
Jetlad and Skywitch are homages to Hillman characters Airboy and Valkyrie. Valkyrie also switched sides (well, she did babyface and heel turns several times, before staying with the Allies). The Maid is, obviously, inspired by Joan of Arc and the Skysharks by Blackhawk (and Ghost Patrol). Panel 1 features a German Fokker DR1 Triplane, which was flown by the Red Baron. The other plane doesn't look like a Sopwith Camel; so that isn't Snoopy. There is an archer, to the lower right of Jetlad and Skywitch; might be Green Arrow, might be Robin Hood. In the upper right, there is an architectural easter egg, with the art deco tower, with the curved peak. I can't recall the exact building; but, I know it from a book I had. Panel 2, behind Jetlad is Buster Brown, of the comic strip; and behind him is Flip, from Little Nemo in Slumberland. The 49ers features numerous classic comic strip easter eggs, given the timeframe it is set. Newspaper comics were still at their height and were better known than comic book characters. Panel 3, the short thug is Boris Badenov, from Bullwinkle. Panel 4, in the right foreground is The Claw, the Golden Age villain. Just to his left is Amazing Man, the Centaur Comics hero, created by Bill Everett. It appears that the man in front of Bluto, looking up at him, is Basil Wolverton's Powerhouse Pepper. The cowboy could be any number of characters, though the hat looks like a Mexican sombrero, suggesting, possibly, the Cisco Kid. Panel 5, the Rocketeer helmet has a certain irony to it. In the Rocketeer movie, the helmet is made from a radio casing. So, now, the helmet returns to being a radio. Jaguar Lady is an homage to the Dragon Lady, from Terry and the Pirates. She was the big femme fatale in the strip, in love with hero Pat Ryan. She was also the template for just about every femme fatale in comics, including Valkyrie (Hillman), Miss Fear (Quality's Blackhawk), Catwoman, Iron Maiden, Black Widow (as originally presented) and more. The concept of the German scientists building Neopolis is inspired by Operation Paperclip, which brought German rocket scientists to the US, which became the foundation for the space program, with Werner Von Braun as the most famous member. Many had their Nazi affiliations scrubbed to hide their involvement in atrocities or at least complicity. Von Braun, as head of the Peenemunde facility, was involved in overseeing the use of slave labor. He was an SS officer, though it was, allegedly, honorary and he was said to be rather apolitical. Or willfully blind to human suffering; take your pick.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 15, 2018 22:24:04 GMT -5
Re: the gangsters. If memory serves, Alan Moore debuted the Romanian vampire gangsters in the America's Best Comics Special. He basically wanted vampire gangsters and making them Transylvanians worked well. I don't recall if he showed any non-gangster ones. Their use is to flip the stereotype of the Italian gangster. Really, ethnic mobs and gangs were common through the early half of the 20th Century, with the Italian mafia, the irish mobs, the Jewish gangsters (Meyer Lansky and Bugsy Siegel) and the Chinese tongs and triads. There were Eastern European gangsters, though not as prominent, apart from the Jewish gangs. I don't think you can wholly tar and feather Moore for the use of an ethnic gang, given the history of the period. His focus was less on them being from Eastern Europe and more that they are vampires, which made them vulnerable to the Maid's light, given its alleged divine origin. Yes, it would help if there were prominent non-gangster Eastern European or vampire characters; but, Moore didn't have the same space he had with Top Ten.
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Post by rberman on Jul 15, 2018 22:55:51 GMT -5
Re: the gangsters. If memory serves, Alan Moore debuted the Romanian vampire gangsters in the America's Best Comics Special. He basically wanted vampire gangsters and making them Transylvanians worked well. I don't recall if he showed any non-gangster ones. Their use is to flip the stereotype of the Italian gangster. Really, ethnic mobs and gangs were common through the early half of the 20th Century, with the Italian mafia, the irish mobs, the Jewish gangsters (Meyer Lansky and Bugsy Siegel) and the Chinese tongs and triads. There were Eastern European gangsters, though not as prominent, apart from the Jewish gangs. I don't think you can wholly tar and feather Moore for the use of an ethnic gang, given the history of the period. His focus was less on them being from Eastern Europe and more that they are vampires, which made them vulnerable to the Maid's light, given its alleged divine origin. Yes, it would help if there were prominent non-gangster Eastern European or vampire characters; but, Moore didn't have the same space he had with Top Ten. What I had in mind wouldn't have taken a lot, even if it was just a vampire janitor in the police station (working night shift of course) muttering about how the vampire crooks give his people a bad name. Or a vampire citizen being harrassed by a vampire gangster. Organized crime gangs were often ethnically organized, but they would prey on other gangs of their own ethnicity as well as "their own civilians," as memorably depicted in The Godfather.
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