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Post by tingramretro on Nov 11, 2018 5:50:06 GMT -5
Lesser meaning in the sense they were never in their own series and many of the other Defender's cast that came and went were "name recognition" characters with either their own comic (Luke Cage, Son of Satan) or came with their own following (Beast, Yellowjacket, Hawkeye, Iceman, Angel, Moondragon) from being around awhile. Poor Nighthawk: always cast as a guest star but never the Leading man. I'm not sure Daimon Hellstrom could be said to be more of a "name recognition" character than Nighthawk, given that his solo series only ran for eight issues and was gone by the beginning of 1977. He didn't join the Defenders full time until four years after his book was cancelled, and appeared nowhere on a regular basis in the meantime. As a kid, I knew who Nihghthawk was and thought of him, as well as Val and Hellcat, as fairly major characters because they turned up everywhere. I think I only ever saw one issue of Son of Satan back then, and that was the last one!
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 15, 2018 15:02:40 GMT -5
Defenders #84Battle Royal. The title suggests one of two things...... or Don't think Marvel was going to slaughter children for entertainment, in 1980. They'd wait for the later part of the decade to do that! Creative Team: Ed Hanigan-tory, Don Perlin & Tex Blaisdell-art, Diana Albers-letters, George Roussos-colors, Al Milgrom-editor, Jim Shooter-Imperius Rex (actual issue credit!) Synopsis: The male Defenders are in Atlantis, after defeating the Unnameable One. Dr Strange takes his lead and heads home. The Atlantean doctors are checking over an unconscious Hulk, who has reverted to Baner, after Doc's mental attack, from las issue. Meanwhile, Atlantean troops meet up with Wakandan smugglers on an island off the coast of Africa, to sell tech. They are interrupted by Black Panther, who has been tracking the smugglers. The fight goes underwater, where T'Challa sees that the Atlanteans are part of the Imperial Navy. This leads to a confrontation between namor and T'Challa, which brings the world on the verge of a nuclear war (which is a bit extreme; but, it is Marvel!). T'Challa wakes Banner, who Hulks up and causes chaos, letting T'Challa steal back the tech and escape, though Wakanda misinterprets the Hulk's leap as a missile and retaliates. So, T'Challa warns Namor and he intercepts the missile, which detonates on the African island. Thoughts: I guess Ed Hanigan saw Fail Safe, or something. The idea of a political, as well as physical confrontation between T'Challa and Namor is interesting (Dr Doom would have been more epic); but, it's a little hard to swallow that things would escalate that much. The initial meeting is due to previous edicts from Namor to look for any means to defend Atlantis, which he never changed, when he simmered down and which opportunist generals (or admirals) took advantage of. Namor is a bit ticked at his own people; but, T'Challa's insistence on having the tech back, taking prisoners and challenging Namor in Atlantis leads to a lot of genital measuring, if you get my drift. For Namor, this is typical; for T'Challa, it's a bit out of character, though he mostly stays true to his past and works to keep things peaceable and uses his brains to get what he wants and then warns Namor when his own side over-reacts. If you have never seen Fail Safe, a nuclear exercise goes haywire when a lone bomber crew continues on to its target in the USSR, despite recalls and even pleading by the pilot's wife. the President of the US and the Premier of the USSR end up having to make a deal. Dr Strangelove covers similar territory, but as farcical satire, while Fail Safe is a deadly, cautionary tale. This steers more towards its perspective. We see a lot of the rest of the world plan to exploit this, such as the USSR planning to strike at China, hile the Iran Hostage Crisis is name-checked. Not the greatest issue out there; but, not a bad in between. In the middle of thing, Dr Strange returns home and Patsy invites him to join the New Defenders. Kyle is still dealing with legal problems.
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 15, 2018 15:17:46 GMT -5
Defenders #85If you think a bird-strike is bad, imagine how pilots dealt with a Hulk-strike! Creative Team: Jim Mooney replaces tex Blaisdell on finishes; everyone else is the same. Synopsis: T'Challa has come to the US to continue the trail of stolen tech. There are protesters outside the Wakandan Embassy, after the nuclear blast in last issue. Hellcat circumvents security and cashes through a window, alarming T'Challa, who recognizes her. She tries to recruit him to go after the Mandrill, whose previous plans seem to have a danger for Wakanda. meanwhile, Hulk is swimming for land, when Namor catches up and offers him a lift, to carry out his promise to Dr Strange. he takes Hulk to the Sanctum, where he sees TChalla and goes all hurt boyfriend on the Defenders, storming off. T'Challa and the gang go to ambush a supply plane, in New Jersey and run into Mandrill's female army. They trash the plane; but, the cargo is a fake and it turns out to be a trap for the Panther. the Defenders follow and break Panther out and smash up the place; but, they don't get the Mandrill. Thoughts: Okay filler; nothing major goes on. Not exactly a comic I would have picked up off the stand, unless I couldn't find something better. Kyle's legal issues continue, which really needs to get wrapped up, soon.
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 21, 2018 21:55:28 GMT -5
Defenders #86Creative Team: Ed Hanigan-writer, Don Perlin pencils, Pablo Marcos inks, Michael Higgins-letters, Bob Sharen-colors, Al Milgrom-edits, Jim Shooter-suits Synopsis: Val is out riding her horsey, looking for unicorns and teddy bears, or whatever girls do when they ride their horsies . Or else she is looking for signs of the Mandrill and the stolen Wakandan tech. She's internally whining about her fate, then we switch to Kyle externally whining about his legal woes. He's interrupted by a pair of kitties (Hellcat and Black Panther) and is all out of string. T'Challa demonstrates the stolen tech, which is a sound absorption device. They exaggerate the potential of it as a weapon and a disruption of the US economy and Kyle agrees to help locate it. We see it in the hands of some Commie (who is a vague caricature of Sydney greenstreet), who sells it toa crooked government type (or something, it's a bit vague. The guy looks like Peter Lore.), who then uses it to hide the noise of his gun as he shoots the Commie and steals the tech and the money. He's off to sell it for more when he's hit by a bus. A cab driver finds the device. Patsy and T'Challa trace the device to the scene of the accident. Meanwhile, Banner is whining about being the Hulk and Val suggest going to see Snow White, in Times Square. Doc is getting an ectoplasmic headache from Banner's bellyaching and tells him to go. We cut to the Mandrill, who is getting out of the pool and monologuing. he was behind the Commie and he's watching the Defenders. The cabbie comes home to a noisy building and starts fiddling with the device, which soaks up the sound. The guy falls asleep in the peace, while smoking in bed. he sets the place on fire; but, can't warn anyone. BP and HC come along the scene and get everyone out. A kid named Luis finds the device and picks it up. He then activates it while banging it. Mama gets some peace from the noise and they go on the subway, where she uses it to drown out noise, which leads a bum to listen to the voices in his head and steal her purse, than an old lady picks it ip and goes elsewhere. Val and Bruce go for some peace at the movies; but ticket prices and concession stand prices get Banner's blood up. Oh, no, wait; that's me. Banner is watching when the sound goes out. The subway business has led to panic, Val tries to help, Banner hulks out. Patsy and T'Challa show up, the device is overloading from all of the sonic energy and Patsy releases it before it explodes. Everyone poops their pants at the sight of the Hulk and then Jon Shooter turns up. No, wait, it's Reed Richards, stretching (literally) his legs. Patsy bitches about the FF horning in on their collar. Val says forget it; they have to go after Hulk. Thoughts: Decent story, though it doesn't add much to the arc. Nice absurd chain of events. Don't know why we get Sydney Greenstreet and Peter Lore cameos, unless Perlin or Hanigan was watching The Maltese Falcon (or Casablanca). Kind of feel like the Mandrill is a wasted opportunity for a better story; but, we will have to see what develops. Hanigan seems to be expressing he doesn't know what to do with Valkyrie, as she whinesabout her circumstances. Off topic, but in reference to the above video; Quiet Riot would have never had a career if it wasn't for Slade. So, on that note, I'll leave you with the real thing...
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 21, 2018 22:35:38 GMT -5
Defenders #87Nothing says excitement like a formal hearing into the causes of a death. Can't wait for the two-page spread of the medical examine giving the toxicology report! Creative Team: Ed "Quincy" Hanigan, Don "Sam" Perlin, Pablo "Lt Monahan" Marcos, Joe "Danny" Rosen, Ben "Sgt Brill" Sean, Al "Dr Astin" Milgrom, Jim "2nd corpse" Shooter Synopsis: The meatwagon brings in a stiff who was run over by a steam roller, with 1400 witnesses swearing to the fact; but, Quincy isn't buying it. Meanwhile, Patsy is in a hover car, racing Val on Aragorn. Well, maybe not racing, but flying alongside. They land at Kyle's old riding academy and survey the ruins. They are looking for the Hulk and get the feeling they are being watched. they catch some spies in a sedan and force them off the road, only for the suits to get away, after using some kind of flare gun. One of the agents makes a report to some tribunal. He says they were looking for the Hulk, who the G-Men were looking for. We see Hulk, who is looking blue (not sure if it is my scan or a really bad printing or coloring job). Another team was following and witnessed the tired monster revert to Banner. Some grunts are sent in to capture and a lowly private is sent to gas Banner. Eiter Hanigan or Perlin demonstrates ignorance of rank insignia, as the officer has captain's bars but is referred to as "colonel." The private slips, Banner wakes up and hulks up, gets lassoed and yanked into the air; but grabs an overpass support structure and pulls the helo crashing down. Then he smashes the trucks like a kid stomping on his army men. The tribunal next hears from Jack Norriss, who recaps his history with the Defenders, up through Scorpio and joining SHIELD; but, gets cut off. The tribunal then listens to wiretaps of the Defenders. Patsy complains about her costume, after changing into a spare, Kyle talks about his legal issues and then they hear a report about the Hulk and the ladies head for the air car. Buzz baxter, Patsy's ex-husband testifies and demonstrates why she dumped his ass, as he whines about her and the Avengers. Norriss pipes up attacking the tribunal, who says they aren't the government and tell Norriss to, literally, sleep it off. Mutant Force testifies next.... They tangled with Hulk, he got asphyxiated and reverted to Banner, Patsy and Val showed up and rescued him and got away. Norriss wakes up, shouts further objections and is told he can leave and is shown the door. he can't figure out the catch and is told to walk out and does. Then, the door disappears and he is left to wonder what the trial was all about. Thoughts: Somebody had been watching the Prisoner or reading Kafka. Actually, Hanigan said, later, that Kafka's The Trial was what he was doing, as the Tribunal were not supposed to be revealed and it was just a paranoid exercise. JM DeMatteis later revisited the Tribunal. Kind of pointless issue, really.
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 21, 2018 22:54:06 GMT -5
Defenders #88Hulk joins Greenpeace! Creative team: George Roussos on colors; everyone else is the same. Synopsis: The girls and Kyle are at his aerospace plant, repairing the damaged aero car. Patsy flirts with workers, while Val makes like a hydraulic lift. Patsy's flirt causes a worker to nearly fall to his death and is saved by Kyle. he gets a call that Matt Murdock aided his lawyer in getting the injunction against becoming Nighthawk overturned and he flies off with the girls. Banner is on a sea cruise (ooh-eeee) when a whale comes alongside. It's the one Hulk dragged back into the ocean. It wants Banner's attention and tris to ram the ship, until Hulk goes with it to fight some Soviet whalers (guess the Enterprise crew was busy). Patsy and Val catch up to keep Hulk from killing a Commie for Mommie. They head off, Kyle buzzes his building to celebrate being in costume again and then foils a hijacking, in mid flight. meanwhile, Val and Patsy and the Soviet sailors have to fight off a squid (which is a reference to King Kong vs Godzilla) and then get to shore. Kyle comes home to find out the government is bringing an indictment for fraud and income tax evasion. Sucks to be him. Thoughts: Weird and slightly goofy issue. Hanigan seems to be making an environmental statement (it was beginning to hit the media). There is also a seen of Patsy's mother, in the hospital, in critical condition (as mentioned by Buzz Baxter, in the previous issue, at the tribunal). The ending has the title A Death in the Family, for the next issue, which is prescient, as Nighthawk is a Batman pastiche and 10 years later (well, 8, actually) that would be the title for the Batman arc that killed Jason Todd (he got better). If we get a title that say The Dark Night(hawk) Returns, I'm outta here! Hanigan is trying new things; but, they aren't really clicking, mutch. They have moments; but, are a bit unsatisfying, as a whole. He has three more issues, then J M DeMatteis starts his long run; the last of any real note on this series. Bidness is about to pick up, daddy!
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Post by berkley on Nov 25, 2018 3:08:26 GMT -5
Huh, I had no idea that the Wakanda vs Atlantis antagonism that has I believe been given some play in recent years went all the way back to this era of the Defenders.
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Post by beccabear67 on Nov 25, 2018 14:12:56 GMT -5
I had some trouble finding Defenders regularly at the time. I ended up with only #83, 86 and 88. It's probably amazing I bought it so sporadically, I guess the story interested me, and the characters. I was buying Hulk regularly then. I had similar issues finding Marvel Team-Up and Two-In-One all the time to a lesser degree.
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 28, 2018 17:00:24 GMT -5
Defenders #89I didn't even know that Patsy was a friend of Jason Todd! Nighthawk looks like he is in a bodybuilding contest, not a funeral. Someone forgot to tell Michael Netzer about Val's newer costume. Creative Team: DAK is back, as co-plotter, Ed Hannigan-writer, Don Perlin & Pablo Marcos-art, Diane Albers-inks, George Roussos-colors, Al Milgrom-edits, Mark Gruenwald & Stephen Grant-ideas & continuity, Jim Shooter-longest inseam. Synopsis: Patsy and Val have been out picking-up men.... Inside the building, Kyle Richmond has gotten a fine "how da ya do" from the IRS, who have frozen his assets and are seizing the building. Kyle gets the call from Clea that Patsy''s mother has passed away and relays the news to patsy. The IRS blocks them from removing personal items (nope; sorry, doesn't work that way....see below). Kyle still has some cash and is setting up Patsy and Bruce with clothes for the funeral, while Patsy request Val wear her Asgardian togs (shells and all) and Clea transforms her white outfit, thereby explaining the cover. Matt Murdock shows up later and "reads" the IRS notice. He hears really big footsteps on the roof and changes into his red longjohns and heads up top. he runs into the Fem-Force, except it isn't Bill Black's group of ladies. it's the Madrill's team of amazons and they proceed to beat the heck out of DD (which some guys would pay to happen; but, that is for an Eric Stanton comic). They haul him off, while Don perlin's proportions suggest that he turned into Giant Man. At the funeral, patsy says a graveside farewell to a mother with whom she had a stormy relationship. She learns that the house has been left to her and invites her friends to stay there, since they lost their digs and Dr Strange as been less than hospitable. Patsy then regales Kyle with her life as a model and failed marriage, plus how her mother turned her life into a fantasy romance comic, which was one of Atlas' big sellers, in the 50s. Val is sent to get groceries; but they forgot the money; so, Banner is sent after her with it and runs into muggers, so they can play a scene from the tv series, as Banner is mugged and then makes the muggers stain their trousers. He then goes inside and helps Val foil a convenient robber, then helps her with the shopping... Hulk tells them what they can do with "20 Items or Less" and then walks and enjoys a nice supper... Talk about a nuclear accident waiting to happen! Kyle uses his wings to fix the tv antenna and then finds everyone asleep. He tries for some shuteye; but, a light across the street shines right into his bedroom. Then, a train rolls by... Kyle heads off to meet his lawyer, and we end with DD locked in a bank vault... Thoughts: Okay, Marvel really needs a legal consultant for their stories. The IRS could seize Kyle's assets and property; but, they can't block the residents of the building from removing their own property. More than likely, they would assume management of the building. Where's Bob Ingersoll when you need him? The issue is mostly a somewhat serious, mostly goofy take on the old Patsy Walker comics and provides a continuity-obsessed rationale for those comics and the Patsy Walker who becomes Hellcat. It's cute and all; but, illustrates a disturbing trend towards rationalizing every minute detail about a comic story and trying to put it all in some kind of timeline. It got so out of hand, over time, that everyone's origin is interconnected and everytime someone tossed away a kleenex, it had a butterfly effect. This is catering to a narrow fansbase, as the Direct Market becomes more prominent, rather than concentrating on a good story, regardless of whether it ignores past comics, from 2 decades ago. Sometimes these fan-oriented details add layers; sometimes it is just continuity wanking. You be the judge. The fact that Mark Gruenwald is involved is not surprising. gruenwald made his fan-to-pro bones with his Omniverse dissertation, linking continuity from various points in comic history, across companies. He would become Marvel's continuity cop (with Peter Sanderson, as researcher and keeper of the history, aiding him). Gruenwald would be behind OHOTMU, which was the ultimate proof that Marvel fans would buy anything, in the 80s (it was a decent reference book, though). Hey kids, want pin-ups and screwy "scientific" explanations for superpowers? OHOTMU! (DC's Who's Who stuck more to history and just describing the powers, without rationalizing things). Anyway, it's a fun issue, which furthers the Mandrill subplot. Page 14 gives is a map of Patsy's new neighborhood, in Montclair, NJ.... Montclair just happened to be the home of another famous supergroup.... Thelma Lou at 1:33! Great film, by the way, based on the memoir by Frank and Ernestine Gilbreth. Their father, Frank Gilbreth Sr, was a leading authority on industrial time & motion studies and efficiency. The film is pure charm. Maybe the Hulk will meet up with Myrna Loy!
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 28, 2018 17:26:12 GMT -5
Defenders #90That cover idea has been used a lot! Creative Team: same batch as last time, minus DAK, Gruenwald and Grant. Synopsis: The Mandrill has his shuttle warmed up to leave his Central American hacienda and head to New York, possibly to see his country music singer cousin Barbara... He takes off with his buxom stewardesses and we get a recap of his childhood. he was born a mutant, treated like a freak, and dropped in the desert by his father. He's got issues (like how his mutation took the form of another species). Back in suburbia, the Defenders skip another meal of beans and head to New York, on errands. Banner borrows a suit from Dr Strange and Valkyrie picks up Aragorn. Patsy breaks into Kyle's place to get her stuff and picks up her shadow cloak, just as Fem-Force shows up to recruit her for Mandrill's army. Before you know it, we have a Hellcat-fight! Meanwhile, DD uses his billy club and radar sense to snare a telephone, in another room and makes a call to the courthouse, where Kyle sits. We get a lot of bad courtroom procedure, when things are interrupted by Matt Murdock's phone call and Kyle's lawyer asks for a temporary recess. Then Hellcat and the Mandrill show up... The Mandrill puts Val under his spell, as well as the female judge. Kyle leaves beforehand, switches to Nighthawk gear, and finally uses his wing-cannon to free DD. They get back and duke it out with the amazons. Mandrill escapes and heads for the West Village. Nighthawk shocks Patsy back to reality, and Hulk tries to stop Val; but she leaves on Aragorn. The trial is postponed after the melee. Thoughts: Weird mix of comic and serious, though it mostly works. Typical comic book lawyering (tv does the same thing, really) and the ladies fall under the spell of the Mandrill.
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 28, 2018 18:39:43 GMT -5
Defenders #91Creative Team: Same bunch. Last issue for Ed Hannigan, as the regular writer. Synopsis: The judge, who is under the Mandrill's spell, has ordered Nighthawk and the Defenders into custody. First Nighthawk, then DD, then Hulk and Hellcat give her the middle finger and leave. We cut to Mandrill's HQ, where Val shows up and waits for her marching orders. D traces the warehouse and radios back to the Defenders, at Patsy's house. Kyle sets up Patsy with a bracelet that administers microshocks to block the effect of the Mandrill's pheromones. Mandrill and his harem go to a nuclear plant, where a protest is going on. Turns out, he is there to get revenge on his nuclear physicist father. He puts his mother under a spell, as well as the female techs, then marches pops to the containment building, where he will be forced to unsuit and absorb the radiation. The Defenders show up and fight and Patsy wakes up a couple of techs. She then runs into Val. Patsy reaches into her trusty shadowcloak and pulls out a sword. Val attacks her and Patsy wets herself, since she don't know nuthin' 'bout no sword fightin'! Hwever, the spell that prevents Val from harming women takes effect, giving Patsy a chance. meanwhile, the Mandrill's mother runs toward the containment building. Outside, Hulk runs into protesters. The gang busts inside, Hulk pushes in control rods to stop a meltdown (caused by the Mandrill, moms shoots the Mandrill and pops reveals he dumped him in the desert to protect him from moms... Moms sensed he would have a problem with the ladies (or, rather, vice versa). She surrenders. Val and Patsy are still fighting; but, the spell weakens Val, until it reaks the Mandrill's spell. They hug and Ed Hannigan's run comes to an end. Thoughts: Well, pretty exciting end to things, though with a goofy couple of opening pages. Turns out Papa Mandrill wasn't the baddie, after all. Some good character stuff with Val and Patsy. Pretty good conclusion to things. Nice to see Hannigan get a chance to say goodbye, when so many of his predecessors didn't. Next, JM DeMatteis begins a 39 issue run, with Don Perlin as artist for most of it. Somewhere in this timeframe (give or take a ear or two), Jim Shooter was able to introduce incentives to keep creative teams on books, by offering bonuses for completing 6 issues. He also added touches like Marvel providing all of an artists's supplies, not just paper, and invoicing Marvel for shipping costs, phone calls, and travel to the offices. Eventually, royalties would be instituted (after DC had introduced their policy, though Shooter claims he had been working on it before DC announced their program). These incentives did much to improve creator loyalty at Marvel, after the initial exodus of people (mostly ex-writer/editors). It would be a while before stylistic dictates created friction with the talent. So, overall, Ed Hannigan had a decent run. Nothing epic, especially compared to Gerber or DAK; but, pretty decent storylines. He continued to focus on the characters and added some goofy touches, which had been inconsistent, since Gerber left. Artistically, the book wasn't exactly at superstar levels; but, it had good, solid storytelling from artists who knew their trade. Not everyone can be a amazing stylist (other wise those people wouldn't be amazing); but, artists like Herb trimpe and Don Perlin know how to tell stories and make them interesting, which is the bread and butter of comics. Perlin will be continuing and will grow, as an artist and will prove a good fit with De Matteis, lasting through the bulk of his tenure. Eventually, Perlin will find himself tossed aside by Marvel; but, Jim Shooter will recruit him for Valiant, where he would remind people as to why he was valuable at Marvel. Next, we start with JMD, who got the series because he was a Dr Strange fan; so, expect the good doctor to be more involved.
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Post by zaku on Nov 29, 2018 2:49:18 GMT -5
Val is sent to get groceries; but they forgot the money; so, Banner is sent after her with it and runs into muggers, so they can play a scene from the tv series, as Banner is mugged and then makes the muggers stain their trousers. He then goes inside and helps Val foil a convenient robber, then helps her with the shopping... Hulk tells them what they can do with "20 Items or Less" and then walks and enjoys a nice supper... It always amuses me seeing old comics' panels with a (relatively) calm Hulk walking around. When did the trope "As soon as Hulk calms down a little, he revert into Bruce Banner" become the norm? ETA: I mean the "Savage Hulk" persona, obviously...
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Post by berkley on Nov 29, 2018 5:05:15 GMT -5
I didn't know that Kraft was still contributing to the Defenders at this late a date - or does "co-plotter" in this instance just mean that they were making use of an old story-outline DAK had left behind when he left the series?
From these samples I think Perlin's art on the Defenders looks better than I remembered, from the few back-issues I've seen since. I still think Perlin's artwork never looked better than when he did his own inks, but I like his combination with Pablo Marcos better than with most other inkers I can think of. And I love the map - both Perlin's visual execution and the whole idea of spending time on the personal lives of the characters, something most of my favourite superhero writers were good at.
I might well be mixing things up from memory, but that scene with the Hulk and the beans feels very similar to an earlier one in the Gerber Defenders. A deliberate tribute?
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Post by brutalis on Nov 29, 2018 7:48:24 GMT -5
This tail end of Hannigan's run really wasn't all that strong but there were some nice moments to be found throughout. Sadly it was never the main story which was all that great for me but it was the side plots and character pieces that were far more interesting. Perlin and Marcos on art kept me aboard for the most part with steady if not spectacular going on's. Then the changes to DeMatteis as writer with Sinnott aboard for inking the series makes a turn for the better and the team is once more delving into strange and weird adventures. This helps keep the comic fresh and different from the other team series out there and what helps sell Defenders as the "non-team" concept to me. The Defenders occupied another part of the MU in facing the more "unnatural" aspects where the FF were science bound, Avengers confronted world/universe threats and the X-Men struggle with fellow mutants. The Defenders were constantly involved in battles of the occult/mystical/supernatural/fantasy type that were always odd and strangely unique that other more "normal" heroes wouldn't dabble in too often.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 9:01:36 GMT -5
Your reviews of the Defenders after #50 or so, makes me want to read them again. I've stopped reading them when I hit #50 and I should had not done that. Nice work recapping them ...
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