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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2014 13:58:11 GMT -5
Classic Spidey knew how to pack a page with prose...the final panel on this sample page from Spidey #20 has almost 130-140 words by itself...that is sometimes more than a whole double-page spread in a contemporary Spidey book. Although I still like Don Slott.  |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Sept 28, 2014 16:31:54 GMT -5
this would be quite fitting in a Quentin Tarentino movie. Well that's because they are both have the same level of skill in their ability to entertain in their respective mediums. I invoke Poe's law: I don't know if this is ironic or not!  I quite enjoyed several of Bendis's comics and Tarentino's movies. Not too keen on the New Avengers thing, but I loved Alias and Daredevil, and Pulp Fiction was a hilarious film! |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Sept 28, 2014 18:58:14 GMT -5
Roy Thomas' Conan feels like that at times, but as others have said the writing was good so I didn't mind.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Sept 28, 2014 19:41:03 GMT -5
Well that's because they are both have the same level of skill in their ability to entertain in their respective mediums. I invoke Poe's law: I don't know if this is ironic or not! I quite enjoyed several of Bendis's comics and Tarentino's movies. Not too keen on the New Avengers thing, but I loved Alias and Daredevil, and Pulp Fiction was a hilarious film! I may have assumed too much by your post RR and I apologize. As Bendis goes I've read Ultimate Spiderman, Datedevil, Secret War, Powers, and maybe an odd or end comic here and there and have only liked Spidey. He's not horrid to read on the other stuff just nothing I would give a second read. Tarentino however has never made anything that has even been remotely entertaining to me. His appearance in Desparado is only tolerable because his character dies. He is excessive in everything. There's no moderation, no middle ground, no turning it off. He's like a kid screaming until his face is red. It's like dude I hear you I just don't care. That's my perception of Tarentino anyway. Sorry for the derailment. Edit: Addentum. It's like the child that's screaming for attention any attention. And the reason I don't want to give him the attention it just encourages the behavior which really no one benifits from. (I think that's a bit of channeling of Dan B in that comment there. I usually don't let loose that much.) |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Sept 28, 2014 20:01:19 GMT -5
I invoke Poe's law: I don't know if this is ironic or not! I quite enjoyed several of Bendis's comics and Tarentino's movies. Not too keen on the New Avengers thing, but I loved Alias and Daredevil, and Pulp Fiction was a hilarious film! Tarentino however has never made anything that has even been remotely entertaining to me. His appearance in Desparado is only tolerable because his character dies. He is excessive in everything. There's no moderation, no middle ground, no turning it off. He's like a kid screaming until his face is red. It's like dude I hear you I just don't care. That's my perception of Tarentino anyway. That's pretty much how I view him too, but as long as he's honest about it and doesn't pretend he's working at some artsy-fartsy second or third level, I find I enjoy his shenanigans. A bit like Dan Simmons in his "hard case" novels, which are so over the top that they're almost self-parodies... amusing self-parodies! Going back to the subject of verbosity: while a guy like Don McGregor covers pages and pages with text, what he writes down is interesting. Some other writers, while using fewer words, manage to make all of them superfluous:  Here we have a self-explanatory action, a caption describing said action, and at the same time a character telling us what is happening. AAAARGH! |
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Post by Phil Maurice on Sept 28, 2014 20:22:32 GMT -5
Heavy textual elements seem to dominate the Golden Age, probably influenced by Foster, Raymond, et al. Then we see some movement away from text in the fifties, allowing the images to tell the story, which is why things like Krigstein's "Master Race" stand out: 
Then came the Comics Code, and the need to explain every panel.  |
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Post by MWGallaher on Sept 28, 2014 20:39:16 GMT -5
 I tried to like Sgt. Fury, but that's gotta be one of the most verbose war comics ever published. These random samples don't do it justice. I found the Essential virtually unreadable with its masses of text crowding out the black and white art.  |
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Post by Dizzy D on Sept 29, 2014 8:06:51 GMT -5
Edgar P. Jacobs could be quite verbose:  |
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Post by Confessor on Sept 30, 2014 8:58:48 GMT -5
Bendis throws in so much dialogue that ultimately says nothing "Man I could go for a cheeseburger" "You can go for a cheeseburger?" "I can certainly go for a cheeseburger" "Why don't you go for a cheeseburger?" "Its not my turn to go for a cheeseburger" "We take turns going for cheesburgers?" "Of course, you don't want everyone going for cheeseburgers at the same time" Who's turn is it to go for cheeseburgers?" "I thought it was you're turn to go for a cheeseburger" "Then why didn't you just come out and ask me to go get a cheeseburger?" "Because Bendis doesn't write things that way" this would be quite fitting in a Quentin Tarentino movie. I don't think the Tarentino-esque feel of a lot of Bendis's dialogue is an accident. For the record, I like a lot of Tarentino movies and I like a lot of Bendis's comics. Edgar P. Jacobs could be quite verbose: Yes! Jacobs was the first person that came to mind when I read the title of this thread...followed shortly after by Roy Thomas. I like both Thomas and Jacobs a lot BTW. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2014 9:12:05 GMT -5
I tried to like Sgt. Fury, but that's gotta be one of the most verbose war comics ever published. These random samples don't do it justice. I found the Essential virtually unreadable with its masses of text crowding out the black and white art. Does anyone know when MWGallaher's funeral is? I'd like to pay my respects. |
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Post by Prince Hal on Sept 30, 2014 17:30:26 GMT -5
I tried to like Sgt. Fury, but that's gotta be one of the most verbose war comics ever published. These random samples don't do it justice. I found the Essential virtually unreadable with its masses of text crowding out the black and white art. Does anyone know when MWGallaher's funeral is? I'd like to pay my respects. I was waiting for this. I saw MW running north, mumbling something that sounded like "every man my enemy," I think. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2014 18:20:47 GMT -5
I love Tarantino, not sure if I've ever read a Bendis comic though
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 1, 2014 0:37:05 GMT -5
I love Tarantino, not sure if I've ever read a Bendis comic though Tarantino is great! My favorite is still Kill Bill, Vol. 1, but I loved Inglourious Basterds and Django Unchained.
I also love Death Proof! I got it on DVD and watched it over and over for a few years until I loaned it out and didn't get it back. But a lot of people, even Tarantino fans, are kind of dismissive of Death Proof. I am baffled by that because I think it's one of his best!
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Post by dupersuper on Oct 1, 2014 0:38:38 GMT -5
This deceitful looking comic grabs a Daredevil fan's attention until you open it and get the shock of your life...no comic inside, it reads like a novel.  I put mine back in the Wizard bag where it's been for the last 15 years or so...unread...  I would've thought a Daredevil fan would enjoy a Daredevil novel... |
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Post by fanboystranger on Oct 1, 2014 12:55:11 GMT -5
I love Tarantino, not sure if I've ever read a Bendis comic though How do you guys feel about the upcoming Django/Zorro crossover? It's co-written by Tarantino and Matt Wagner. I think it's going to be fantastic.
Tarantino is also a big Wagner fan, so I have high hopes for him bringing Devil by the Deed to the big screen.
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