shaxper
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Post by shaxper on Sept 18, 2023 11:21:48 GMT -5
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Sept 18, 2023 12:19:57 GMT -5
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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 18, 2023 17:08:05 GMT -5
They cut the Fables comics in half ? |
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 18, 2023 21:44:05 GMT -5
They cut the Fables comics in half ? Then buried it out in the desert for swashbuckling archeologists to find. |
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Post by tonebone on Sept 19, 2023 7:46:47 GMT -5
That seems like a wholly presumptuous and over-generalized statement. You have a better theory? Not one I would presume to present as fact. |
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Post by MDG on Sept 28, 2023 10:55:48 GMT -5
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Post by MWGallaher on Sept 28, 2023 16:52:03 GMT -5
I bought my first-ever Omnibus edition recently, DC's PHANTOM STRANGER OMNIBUS. I was surprised at how they handled the first four installments of the 1960's revival, each issue of which incorporated two reprints; one from an issue of the 1950's PHANTOM STRANGER, and one Dr. Thirteen story from STAR-SPANGLED COMICS (again, the 1950's):
The reproductions of the original 6-issue PHANTOM STRANGER comic don't include the stories that were incorporated into the 1960's series. That makes sense--no point in duplicating pages.
But the Dr. Thirteen stories are simply deleted from SHOWCASE #80 and PHANTOM STRANGER (1969) #1-3! Dr. T shows up and begins telling a story, then the page number skips ahead 6 and he's shown wrapping it all up!
That's not how I would have done things. Dr. Thirteen was an important co-star in those early issues, and it's pretty chintzy to excise his contributions to save 24 pages out of a 1000+ page book.
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Post by MWGallaher on Sept 30, 2023 5:39:35 GMT -5
I was re-examining the first issue of WONDER WOMAN I ever read (issue 200, up next in rberman 's All-New, All-Mod Wonder Woman issue by issue thread!). I doubt that I've looked at that comic in at least 40 years. In the reprint slot, a new sequence introduces a reprint from WW #144, with Diana reminiscing to I-Ching about a crush she had on some boys when she was a teenager. There's a reference on page 2 to "Wonder Girl's family", and I began to wonder if young MW had been confused, realizing that I was about to see Wonder Girl--clearly Wonder Woman as a girl--alongside Wonder Woman herself. When I turned the page, I discovered that readers in 1972 were spared Robert Kanigher's unexplained transition from Wonder Girl (and Tot) being Princess Diana to being separate individuals. The reprint in #200 alters the costumes on the older and younger versions of the Amazing Amazon: Issue 144:  Issue 200:  Adult Diana becomes an unidentified Amazon, not wearing the familiar eagle and star-spangled shorts. |
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Post by kirby101 on Sept 30, 2023 9:15:32 GMT -5
Mark Evanier is writing a three part post on Frank Robbins and his controversial art style that might be of interest to some here, www.newsfromme.com/2023/09/29/about-frank-robbins-part-1-of-three/One caveat is Mark writes from memory and his conversations with people throughout the years. So this is not a research article. I am sure he is as accurate as he can be, but it is his recollections of what occurred. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 30, 2023 9:30:38 GMT -5
Mark Evanier is writing a three part post on Frank Robbins and his controversial art style that might be of interest to some here, www.newsfromme.com/2023/09/29/about-frank-robbins-part-1-of-three/One caveat is Mark writes from memory and his conversations with people throughout the years. So this is not a research article. I am sure he is as accurate as he can be, but it is his recollections of what occurred.In recent years, I've come to see that memory about 30-40 year old events is subject to scrutiny.Maybe the best " evidence" you have for events is interviews given at the time closest to the occurrence. |
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Post by kirby101 on Sept 30, 2023 9:58:44 GMT -5
Mark Evanier is writing a three part post on Frank Robbins and his controversial art style that might be of interest to some here, www.newsfromme.com/2023/09/29/about-frank-robbins-part-1-of-three/One caveat is Mark writes from memory and his conversations with people throughout the years. So this is not a research article. I am sure he is as accurate as he can be, but it is his recollections of what occurred.In recent years, I've come to see that memory about 30-40 year old events is subject to scrutiny.Maybe the best " evidence" you have for events is interviews given at the time closest to the occurrence. Except any with Stan.  But seriously, back in the Silver and Bronze Ages, their was no comic journalism to speak of, and the interviews were all PR in general news. The more recent historical research of what was going on is digging deeper into the real truth behind the scenes. I don't think anybody at the time talked about what was really happening. Interviews years later by many of the players give us some insight.
One thing here Mark talks about is folks at DC wanted to copy Marvel because they were gaining on them. Well they really weren't and many at DC have talked about the contempt the company had for Marvel books. So I don't know how accurate that is.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Sept 30, 2023 10:42:59 GMT -5
So I'm working my way through Alter Ego #101 (the first of the huge pile I bought) and Victor Fox is the cover feature. The first article is okay, a reprint of Richard Kyle's article "The Education of Victor Fox" from Xero #8 back in 1962. Part of the "All in Color for a Dime" series, it's less comic scholarship and more a review-ish look at some of Fox's Golden Age output with some theorizing about the nature of Mr. Fox. It's fine for what it is.
Then we get to the second article and Holy Socks! Ken Quattro, author of "Invisible Men: The Trailblazing Black Artists of Comic Books," which I own but have not gotten around to reading, has acquired what appears to be a transcript of the testimony in the case of Detective Comics, Inc. vs. Bruns Publications, Inc. et. al, aka, The Superman vs. Wonder Man case. This is very interesting stuff for any comics history buff, but for a lawyer who is a comics history buff...faboo. The testimony of Jack Liebowitz, Jerry Siegel and Warren Angel are interesting. Then we get to the testimony of Will Eisner and...Wow! This is not what one would have ever expected from reading The Dreamer and interviews with Eisner over the years. He absolutely did not turn on Fox and reveal that Fox had ordered Eisner and Iger to copy Superman. He towed the company line and testified that he came up with Wonder Man independently before he'd ever seen Superman. So why the change of story to make Eisner a moral champion and hero? One assumes it may be because of the later legal and business troubles between Fox and Eisner/Iger.
I'm not through with the entire article and the testimony...but that is some interesting and game-changing stuff.
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Post by commond on Oct 2, 2023 19:37:51 GMT -5
Cartoonist Kayfabe produced this fascinating interview with Seth.
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Post by MDG on Oct 3, 2023 14:26:22 GMT -5
This one's new to me: album cover for the Buffalo, NY band Enemies by Gene the Dean.  |
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Post by driver1980 on Oct 6, 2023 12:41:39 GMT -5
I really shall not be offended (I promise) if anyone buys this for me:  |
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But seriously, back in the Silver and Bronze Ages, their was no comic journalism to speak of, and the interviews were all PR in general news. The more recent historical research of what was going on is digging deeper into the real truth behind the scenes. I don't think anybody at the time talked about what was really happening. Interviews years later by many of the players give us some insight.
