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Post by kirby101 on Oct 29, 2023 17:11:02 GMT -5
Storytelling in comics today is very cinematic. Storytelling in older comics is more literary. They are different reading experiences. Reading a modern comic today is like watching an episode of prestige TV. They're built to a cliffhanger that makes you want to read the next issue, the same way way prestige TV makes you want to binge watch the entire season in one sitting. It took some getting used to at first, as you'd see a lot of wide screen panels with very little dialogue. However, when it's done well it's every bit as valid as the older storytelling methods. You don't see other mediums standing still and comics is the same. On the subject of single issue stories, I think it was clear even back in the Bronze Age that readers preferred multi-part stories hence Marvel's failed experiment with returning to single issue stories circa 1970. Failed? All the early Conan were single issue stories. As were the Gerber ManThing, Luke Cage, Werewolf, Shang Chi.... |
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Post by driver1980 on Oct 29, 2023 17:19:53 GMT -5
Storytelling in comics today is very cinematic. Storytelling in older comics is more literary. They are different reading experiences. Reading a modern comic today is like watching an episode of prestige TV. They're built to a cliffhanger that makes you want to read the next issue, the same way way prestige TV makes you want to binge watch the entire season in one sitting. It took some getting used to at first, as you'd see a lot of wide screen panels with very little dialogue. However, when it's done well it's every bit as valid as the older storytelling methods. You don't see other mediums standing still and comics is the same. On the subject of single issue stories, I think it was clear even back in the Bronze Age that readers preferred multi-part stories hence Marvel's failed experiment with returning to single issue stories circa 1970. Yet it does make a modern comic very expensive. I’d rather not spend £3-4 on a comic I can read in 8-9 minutes. Plus, storytelling methods aside, modern comics could include thought bubbles, captions, etc. |
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Post by commond on Oct 29, 2023 17:39:16 GMT -5
Storytelling in comics today is very cinematic. Storytelling in older comics is more literary. They are different reading experiences. Reading a modern comic today is like watching an episode of prestige TV. They're built to a cliffhanger that makes you want to read the next issue, the same way way prestige TV makes you want to binge watch the entire season in one sitting. It took some getting used to at first, as you'd see a lot of wide screen panels with very little dialogue. However, when it's done well it's every bit as valid as the older storytelling methods. You don't see other mediums standing still and comics is the same. On the subject of single issue stories, I think it was clear even back in the Bronze Age that readers preferred multi-part stories hence Marvel's failed experiment with returning to single issue stories circa 1970. Failed? All the early Conan were single issue stories. As were the Gerber ManThing, Luke Cage, Werewolf, Shang Chi.... Short-lived may have been a better term. The point is that it was introduced in 1969 and didn't last for very long.  |
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Post by kirby101 on Oct 29, 2023 19:03:53 GMT -5
What month was that. I want to see if the books did go all to single issues, or more of Stan's hype.
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Post by commond on Oct 29, 2023 19:21:05 GMT -5
I believe it was from July (October cover date.)
Edit: Apparently, it lasted for less than a year and a half and wasn't 100% enforced.
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Post by commond on Oct 29, 2023 19:28:42 GMT -5
Here's another mention of it:  |
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Post by kirby101 on Oct 30, 2023 13:23:48 GMT -5
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Post by driver1980 on Oct 30, 2023 13:48:13 GMT -5
I believe it was from July (October cover date.) Edit: Apparently, it lasted for less than a year and a half and wasn't 100% enforced. I certainly wish they’d enforce it now! |
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Post by tonebone on Oct 31, 2023 9:57:14 GMT -5
I got a letter from Dick Giordano back in the 80's... it was a nice rejection letter for some Dial H for Heroes character designs. The letterhead had the DC bullet at the top but if you held it up to the light, you could see that same stack of heroes printed in reverse on the BACK of the stationary... so that they look like they are holding up the bullet on the front. Pretty neat! |
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Post by driver1980 on Nov 2, 2023 3:54:53 GMT -5
Released 30 years ago today:  Maybe it’s time I read this, been meaning to for years. |
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Post by driver1980 on Nov 2, 2023 4:07:33 GMT -5
Released 30 years ago today:  I rarely bought this comic, so I had no strong feelings about it ending. Did someone here inform me that Byrne demanded a title change from West Coast Avengers to Avengers West Coast? I believe the original title sounds better, it rolls off the tongue more naturally. I mean, consider this: which sounds better, West Coast Wrestling or Wrestling West Coast? Wasn’t Force Works sort of a replacement for this title? |
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Post by Rob Allen on Nov 2, 2023 4:12:47 GMT -5
I think they changed a few titles around that time, because they found out that a lot of comics shops shelved the comics alphabetically. Having all of the Avengers titles start with 'A' helped fans find them all easily. They changed King Conan to Conan the King for the same reason.
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 2, 2023 6:04:28 GMT -5
Rob Liefeld had a company with the name of Awesome so that it could be featured at the front of the Previews catalogue.
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Post by driver1980 on Nov 2, 2023 7:06:40 GMT -5
I think they changed a few titles around that time, because they found out that a lot of comics shops shelved the comics alphabetically. Having all of the Avengers titles start with 'A' helped fans find them all easily. They changed King Conan to Conan the King for the same reason. Interesting, although how hard would it have been to find West Coast Avengers - just head to the section marked W. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2023 7:18:42 GMT -5
I think they changed a few titles around that time, because they found out that a lot of comics shops shelved the comics alphabetically. Having all of the Avengers titles start with 'A' helped fans find them all easily. They changed King Conan to Conan the King for the same reason. Interesting, although how hard would it have been to find West Coast Avengers - just head to the section marked W. It wasn't hard at all, I picked up West Coast Avengers at my local comic book shop back in the day and did not struggle with where "W" was. And really, who doesn't scan all the racks when you're in a shop? It's not THAT many comics, and isn't part of the fun seeing what else pops out to you? Plus as you said, West Coast Avengers just flows much better. |
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