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Post by Batflunkie on Sept 22, 2024 11:49:00 GMT -5
CBS' Sunday Morning did a piece today about Mad Magazine, thought you folks might enjoy it
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Post by driver1980 on Sept 25, 2024 3:40:46 GMT -5
On sale 40 years ago today:  I have posted this to show how the UK reprint ‘thoughtfully’ added a speech bubble for Cap - and did a mirror image:  |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Sept 26, 2024 12:18:00 GMT -5
I found this interesting quote from Paul Levitz a week or so ago in an article from Bleeding Cool about current page rates
Paul Levitz: "A post about the current pressure on comic book page rates (at least in the periodical side) got me playing with an inflation calculator. The top rates at DC and Marvel when I came into the business in the early '70s are very roughly equivalent to $700 per page now(script, art, lettering and coloring inclusive) with starting rates about half that. No royalties of course. And I'm not adjusting for the technological changes that make lettering and coloring so different."
Just an interesting factoid.
It's my understanding that rates at the big 2 have not risen significantly and most likely have shrunk. Work-For-Hire terms have not changed. Royalty conditions are extremely modest and hard to reach. Page rates from independent publishers are far, far less than that $700.
In fact, Levitz' quote is from an article about a corporate memo from BOOM Studios aiming to drive down current page rates to $200 (this memo is questionably real but screenshots have appeared)
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Post by rich on Sept 26, 2024 12:42:30 GMT -5
I found this interesting quote from Paul Levitz a week or so ago in an article from Bleeding Cool about current page rates Paul Levitz: "A post about the current pressure on comic book page rates (at least in the periodical side) got me playing with an inflation calculator. The top rates at DC and Marvel when I came into the business in the early '70s are very roughly equivalent to $700 per page now(script, art, lettering and coloring inclusive) with starting rates about half that. No royalties of course. And I'm not adjusting for the technological changes that make lettering and coloring so different." Just an interesting factoid. It's my understanding that rates at the big 2 have not risen significantly and most likely have shrunk. Work-For-Hire terms have not changed. Royalty conditions are extremely modest and hard to reach. Page rates from independent publishers are far, far less than that $700. In fact, Levitz' quote is from an article about a corporate memo from BOOM Studios aiming to drive down current page rates to $200 (this memo is questionably real but screenshots have appeared) $200 for a page? At that point the creators are just hobbyists, unless we're talking a minimally rendered black and white comic. To bring a pencilled to the average NYC salary of $100k they'd need to pencil 22 pages a month every month of the year, and earn $380 a page. Supposedly the top names around the turn of the century were on $1,000 a page, which is good money. Now it's half that. When Marvel was paying bonuses based on sales in the 80s, creators could earn a lot more than that too- Alpha Flight #1 bagged Byrne a $30k bonus for example. |
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Post by MRPs_Missives on Sept 26, 2024 16:46:22 GMT -5
I found this interesting quote from Paul Levitz a week or so ago in an article from Bleeding Cool about current page rates Paul Levitz: "A post about the current pressure on comic book page rates (at least in the periodical side) got me playing with an inflation calculator. The top rates at DC and Marvel when I came into the business in the early '70s are very roughly equivalent to $700 per page now(script, art, lettering and coloring inclusive) with starting rates about half that. No royalties of course. And I'm not adjusting for the technological changes that make lettering and coloring so different." Just an interesting factoid. It's my understanding that rates at the big 2 have not risen significantly and most likely have shrunk. Work-For-Hire terms have not changed. Royalty conditions are extremely modest and hard to reach. Page rates from independent publishers are far, far less than that $700. In fact, Levitz' quote is from an article about a corporate memo from BOOM Studios aiming to drive down current page rates to $200 (this memo is questionably real but screenshots have appeared) I think it was IDW not BOOM! though. And IDW has been having cash flow issues for almost a decade now. -M |
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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 26, 2024 17:37:23 GMT -5
Interesting bit about page rates. I wonder if Marvel stay pays participation rates for new characters , some people call them royalties ?
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Sept 26, 2024 18:25:16 GMT -5
In fact, Levitz' quote is from an article about a corporate memo from BOOM Studios aiming to drive down current page rates to $200 (this memo is questionably real but screenshots have appeared) I think it was IDW not BOOM! though. And IDW has been having cash flow issues for almost a decade now. -M Thank you for the correction. It is about IDW, not BOOM. |
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Post by Batflunkie on Sept 26, 2024 18:26:07 GMT -5
Interesting bit about page rates. I wonder if Marvel stay pays participation rates for new characters , some people call them royalties ? There's a quote that I recall from Starlin that he got an absolute pittance for Thanos' appearance in the Marvel movies, saying that he got a far better check from DC for "Death In The Family" |
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Post by driver1980 on Sept 27, 2024 6:06:02 GMT -5
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Sept 27, 2024 17:28:00 GMT -5
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Post by Batflunkie on Sept 27, 2024 17:58:29 GMT -5
Marvel still has the copyright for "Mutant" though, right? |
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 27, 2024 22:43:51 GMT -5
Marvel still has the copyright for "Mutant" though, right? No...nor a trademark. It's a pre-existing term in science, which means it can't just be trademarked, as is. New Mutants is trademarked, as a title and there is a copyright on individual issues; but, the word itself is not eligible for such. |
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Post by Chris on Sept 28, 2024 1:36:33 GMT -5
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Post by driver1980 on Sept 28, 2024 14:18:17 GMT -5
Doesn’t feel like this warrants a topic of its own so I’ll be brief here: it does feel like very few modern superhero movies have distinct music scores (and incidental music) that will stay with you for years. And that can apply to many films. I’d say the Pirates of the Caribbean film series is about the only one whose music appeals to me lately.
I did own the Superman the Movie CD set years ago (I can’t find it, probably got lost during a house move). This particular theme is the kind of thing that one will remember forever:
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2024 14:23:19 GMT -5
driver1980, I tend to agree, I'd put the 1989 Batman movie orchestral score up there as well. This is relatively more modern though not so new anymore (2010), but this theme has stayed with me a bit over the years:
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