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Post by foxley on Feb 25, 2023 23:46:28 GMT -5
And so it goes. Here is a photo of the good folks of Tennessee burning copies of Harry Potter and Twilight in 2022:  |
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Post by spoon on Feb 26, 2023 0:34:48 GMT -5
Everything I've seen or read about that travesty brings up not just the amount of alcohol consumed that night, but the racism that was at the heart of the crowd's interest in the record-burning.I was not aware of that, that's an entirely different matter in that case. I was under the impression (perhaps wrongly so) that fans of rock music (among others) hated the music itself and that was a primary driver of disco backlash. As a musician myself, I love many genres of music during the 70's, and while rock is one of them, funk, jazz, fusion, blues, are all I think representative genres that would be considered having significant racial and ethnic diversity. Disco, purely musically speaking, was a little more controversial I think on artistic merits, though had a massive popular boom of course during that time. Again, I know you are talking about that particular incident, it just surprised me (or more to the real point, let me down yet again on my perception of people if that was in fact what was really happening). I was an infant when Disco Demolition Night occurred, but I was under the impression that the anti-disco was just because it was considered corny and passe after a few years. On a tangential note, I went a Wikipedia rabbit hole and discovered Van McCoy died 6 days before Disco Demolition Night. I never knew he was someone who died young. |
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Post by commond on Feb 26, 2023 1:01:56 GMT -5
It was racist, sexist and bigoted, as was the entire backlash against Disco.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Feb 26, 2023 5:38:29 GMT -5
It was racist, sexist and bigoted, as was the entire backlash against Disco. There was an aspect to the backlash that was more concerned with the apparent vapidity of the music and the kitschy and equally vapid nature of the culture that grew around it (which had some merit), but yes, racism and homophobia were definitely a big part of it for many.
I recall reading an article about the infamous 'Disco Demolition Night' a few years ago which included testimony from a member of the stadium's security staff. He said that a considerable percentage of the 'disco' records that people bought to be blown up were either singles or albums by Motown artists from the '60s and early '70s. |
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Post by commond on Feb 26, 2023 8:35:02 GMT -5
The backlash against disco wasn't just about the music. Disco originated in the black, Latin and gay communities and represented the first time that gay culture, in particular, was embraced by the mainstream. Watching interviews with Steve Dahl, he clearly had a problem with how disco challenged his masculinity. Disco Demolition Night itself was a straight up attack on black music and a disgrace. Even though disco was commercially successful, it never really had the support of the record executives, and it ended up retreating back to the underground scene that it sprang from and morphing into different dance styles while artists like Prince, Michael Jackson and Madonna sold copious amounts of records under the guise of "pop." The irony is that these so-called rock fans showed little understanding of the same prejudices that artists like Little Richard, Elvis and the Beatles faced in the early days of rock and roll.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2023 8:58:48 GMT -5
The backlash against disco wasn't just about the music. Disco originated in the black, Latin and gay communities and represented the first time that gay culture, in particular, was embraced by the mainstream. Watching interviews with Steve Dahl, he clearly had a problem with how disco challenged his masculinity. Disco Demolition Night itself was a straight up attack on black music and a disgrace. Even though disco was commercially successful, it never really had the support of the record executives, and it ended up retreating back to the underground scene that it sprang from and morphing into different dance styles while artists like Prince, Michael Jackson and Madonna sold copious amounts of records under the guise of "pop." The irony is that these so-called rock fans showed little understanding of the same prejudices that artists like Little Richard, Elvis and the Beatles faced in the early days of rock and roll. It was absolutely about the music, an interview with one guy is not representative of what was really going on. Disco absolutely had the ears of the record executives, why do you think a band like KISS was making "I Was Made for Lovin' You" on the Dynasty album in 1979 and the whole tone of the album changed? Disco was EVERYWHERE, even Sesame Street with Disco Grover. If you wanted to be commercially viable as a musician during that time, you simply could not ignore disco. I'm not with you guys on this at all, it was a much embraced phenomenon that reached a fevered pitch and then had nowhere to go but down (like all hot trends). One last comment, purely because as a musician I can't help myself (I know, we've got to get back on track with actual comic tidbits): We've got music threads in the community discussion area. Every time I post some old Herbie Hancock, P-Funk, Sly, Earth Wind & Fire, it's crickets. I'm just sayin'...if some folks are gonna preach it, you gotta live it. Some of the best music ever made, come feed your soul and expand your minds baby. Music is supposed to UNITE us, not divide us, it's the universal language. If you want to sit there and keep stewing on every article from the past that shows some idiot wanted to make it into something else, fine, but you're missing life right here and now. The music is still alive and well, I'd rather vibe with others to that. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2023 9:18:50 GMT -5
Saw this online:  I hadn’t seen this before. If there’s two things I love to learn/known the history of it’s wrestling and comics. But it’s nice to know that one can still discover “new” things. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2023 9:27:05 GMT -5
I hadn’t seen this before. If there’s two things I love to learn/known the history of it’s wrestling and comics. But it’s nice to know that one can still discover “new” things. I had never seen this either (sometimes I feel like obscure Marvel 70's titles are inserted into reality after the fact, just when I think I've seen them all, another one pops up). I was not aware of the TV film, but after reading the premise, I just have to see it. I know it will be terrible, but nonetheless I need to do it. |
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Post by foxley on Feb 26, 2023 9:32:51 GMT -5
I hadn’t seen this before. If there’s two things I love to learn/known the history of it’s wrestling and comics. But it’s nice to know that one can still discover “new” things. I had never seen this either (sometimes I feel like obscure Marvel 70's titles are inserted into reality after the fact, just when I think I've seen them all, another one pops up). I was not aware of the TV film, but after reading the premise, I just have to see it. I know it will be terrible, not nonetheless I need to do it. The movie is pretty terrible, but enjoyable in a schlocky kind of way. The short story by Theodore Sturgeon is actually really good, and quite different to the movie. I believe the comic (which I have never seen in the wild) is based directly on the short story rather than the movie but was released at the appropriate time to cash in on the film.
Either way, the cover is misleading as neither the short story nor the movie have any female characters. And the possessed bulldozer looks nothing like that.
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Post by Calidore on Feb 26, 2023 9:38:10 GMT -5
I hadn’t seen this before. If there’s two things I love to learn/known the history of it’s wrestling and comics. But it’s nice to know that one can still discover “new” things. I had never seen this either (sometimes I feel like obscure Marvel 70's titles are inserted into reality after the fact, just when I think I've seen them all, another one pops up). I was not aware of the TV film, but after reading the premise, I just have to see it. I know it will be terrible, but nonetheless I need to do it.
Here you go.
Directed by prolific TV director Jerry London, whose most prominent work was probably Shogun. You also get the 1974 versions of Clint Walker, Robert Urich, and Neville Brand. Now I'm down to at least have a look.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2023 9:42:27 GMT -5
Calidore - Thank you! We're actually having a lazy Sunday at the house today, I think I'll jump right into this 
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Post by Rob Allen on Feb 26, 2023 10:12:51 GMT -5
Even the Grateful Dead were influenced by disco. I always thought the song Shakedown Street sounded disco-ish, and Wikipedia confirms it: "Drummer-percussionist Mickey Hart exerted greater influence than previously, earning three co-compositional credits in addition to assisting with the arrangements of several songs, including Garcia/Hunter's title track (influenced by his interest in the Bee Gees and disco)."
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Post by dbutler69 on Feb 26, 2023 10:40:04 GMT -5
Saw this online: I hadn’t seen this before. If there’s two things I love to learn/known the history of it’s wrestling and comics. But it’s nice to know that one can still discover “new” things. The allure of some awesome Bronze Age series I've never seen before is one of the things that keeps me going! |
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Post by MWGallaher on Feb 26, 2023 11:06:00 GMT -5
As long as we've got Marvel's WORLDS UNKNOWN on the table, here's an embarrassing final panel from the issue preceding the "Killdozer" adaptation, issue 5's presentation of "Black Destroyer":  In the letters page, Roy Thomas apologizes for not having had the time to complete some needed scripting revisions that would have clarified the twist ending, so he recruits Don and Maggie Thompson to write a text piece explaining it! "Day of the Triffids", obviously, did not appear in the next issue; it showed in UNKNOWN WORLDS OF SCIENCE FICTION, Marvel's black and white magazine follow-up to the unsuccessful color comic. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 26, 2023 11:31:14 GMT -5
I used to have a copy, which my cousin gave me (along with a big box of other comics. It was a decent little comic, typical of most of what Marvel was doing with their sci-fi and classic literary adaptations.  I always liked the film, for what it was. For tv, it was different. |
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