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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 28, 2018 21:58:37 GMT -5
On a semi related note... I find science fiction stories from 100 years charming and more "elegant" than current stories. For example I enjoy ERB's John Carter on Mars and books like Weir's "The Martian" but ERB's story has a certain charm. Weir's story is very good but it is too technical at times. I also like Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars trilogy but it too had a tendency to be technical. Anyone else feel the same way? I tended to prefer space opera to "hard" sci-fi, though it depended on the writer. I used to have an edition of Edmond Hamilton's Starwolf books; but, never got around to reading it (basis for the Fugitive Alien tv series, of MST3k fame, with the aliens with the weird wigs under their helmets). I liked EE Smith's Lensman stuff, though his prose style was a little archaic. Burroughs moves you right along and creates images in your mind. Bester was one I enjoyed, with The Stars My destination and The Demolished Man, and Bradbury has always been a favorite. Asimov I liked better on the short stories than the novels, of what I've read(which isn't a great deal of his). Heinlein was good, though the later stuff is more hit and miss, with me. I also tended to like the military sci-fi, from real veterans, especially Joe Haldeman and The Forever War. Starship Troopers is rather fascist; but, exciting. Haldeman makes for a great counterpoint to the ideology in Troopers. I liked David Drake's Hammer's Slammers stuff (another Vietnam vet). Harry Harrison's Stainless Steel Rat was a series I enjoyed. Phillip K Dick is good for the philosophical stuff. Never got into Niven or Pournelle, haven't read Van Voght or Cordwainer Smith. I have been poking around at some of the planetary romance writers, thanks to characters used in the Tales of the Shadowmen anthologies, especially Leigh Brackett's stuff and Edmond Hamilton's Captain Future stuff. Also like to check out CL Moore's Northwest Smith, which was one of the inspirations for Han Solo. For comics, it really depends on the story and the visuals. The Adam Strange stories were always clever and visually inventive and dynamic. Captain Comet had some clever tales and the EC stuff was usually good. Elaine Lee and Mike Kaluta's Starstruck was really interesting stuff, with great visuals and great characters. Starslayer was a nice mix of a fantasy hero and a space opera setting. Time Warp had some nice stories, in its brief life, especially those from Kaluta. He also did one or two of the World of Krypton stories, in the early 70s Superman comics (circa the sand doppelganger storyline) that were really interesting, visually, as well as from a plot standpoint. Kaluta also illustrated an edition of Thea Von Harbor's Metropolis novel (though I'm not sure if he was adapting the novel or the film script), for Donning/Starblaze. I loved the Archie Goodwin Star Wars stories, over any other writer involved in media adaptations or the films. For comic strips, it was always Flash Gordon, which is really fantasy/planetary romance. Buck Rogers always sounded cool; but, the art on the strip always looked so dated and flat, until some of the later guys (like Murphy Anderson). For Europe, there is Leo's Aldebaran cycle, Moebius's work, Juan Giminez' stuff, Daniel Torres' Rocco Vargas (mix of detective and sci-fi), Maroto's Cinco Por Infinito, Druillet's wild and weird Lone Sloane, Mezieres and Christin's Valerian, the uk strip Jeff Hawke, Dan Dare, and Pepe Moreno's dystopian albums Rebel and Generation Zero.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Jul 29, 2018 4:27:31 GMT -5
(...) Anyone else feel the same way? Not really. I'm a big fan of SF in general, and I do like a lot of the older stuff, but charming as it may be sometimes, I find it pales in comparison to the best of the 'newer' stuff (by 'newer,' I mean post-1950s). My very favorite authors in that regard are Le Guin (just the best author ever, in my opinion) and Octavia Butler, as well as Philip Dick and James Tiptree Jr. (aka Alice Sheldon). While I haven't read as much of their work, I also really like what I've read by Stanislaw Lem, Joanna Russ, James Blish, Brian Aldiss, John Brunner and Michael Moorcock. Cordwainer Smith (aka Paul Linebarger) was a fantastic author - his stuff is mainly space opera but with a very unique, modern(ist) twist.
For much more recent stuff, I highly recommend pretty much anything by Nnedi Okorafor (including her YA books). Sometimes it straddles the line between fantasy and SF but it's all well worth reading. Also, if you like military SF, there's John Scalzi's Old Man's War cycle, which is thoroughly enjoyable. I read, actually devoured, all of those books in less than a month. That said, to the extent that he can be considered part of the older generation, I love Alfred Bester's work, both his novels and short stories. I've also recently gone down a few rabbit holes with older SF, reading the older planetary romance stories by Leigh Brackett (which are quite good), which has led to another detour into reading John MacDonald's SF prose, mostly written in the 1940s and 1950s (also very good). As for SF covers, I like both the old-timey stuff: As well as the more modern stuff:
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Post by EdoBosnar on Jul 29, 2018 4:39:38 GMT -5
(By the way, I hope my images above aren't repeats; I just realized last night that - apparently due to the GDPR - I can no longer open the Comic Book DB or view anything linked to it, so I can't find any way to view the pics in Jesse's posts.)
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Post by Søren on Jul 29, 2018 5:33:28 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2018 6:03:05 GMT -5
Science Fiction I read this book several years ago and it's filled with great short stories and here the List of books - Fascinating Stories that will entertains you for hours; the Wife Factory is a compelling read. I provided you a list of books in a series of and I have read about 20 percent of these books on that list/link and I would like to revisit them if I can find them.
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Post by tarkintino on Jul 29, 2018 10:06:12 GMT -5
Same series, two beginnings-- Logan's Run #1 (January, 1977) by George Perez & Al Milgrom. The first issue launching the five-issue adaptation of the 1976 movie. Logan's Run #6 (June, 1977) by Paul Gulacy. The first issue post-movie adaptation, with Gulacy's very Steranko-influenced cover.
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Post by hondobrode on Jul 29, 2018 10:17:32 GMT -5
Hopefully I still have my copy somewhere. Nothing spectacular story-wise but the 3-D Kirby art is amazing
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Post by EdoBosnar on Jul 29, 2018 14:58:54 GMT -5
Excellent choice of Logan's Run covers, tarkintino. I love that series. On the topic of Marvel's licensed series, here's one of my favorites from the early Micronauts: Simonson did several really nice covers for Battlestar Galactica, but this has always been my favorite (despite the banner ad): I've never had this is one from Charlton, but I've loved it ever since I saw it posted online (at Diversions of the Groovy Kind, I think):
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2018 19:28:52 GMT -5
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 29, 2018 22:51:47 GMT -5
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Post by beccabear67 on Jul 29, 2018 23:39:39 GMT -5
I used to have a lot of sf magazines '30s-'90s, Jame Tiptree Jr. was one of my all-time favorites in them so nice to see her mentioned! Cordwainer Smith too, another fave is mentioned! Here's one for balance... I know Trina Robbins liked this particular issue too. I have had six or seven Planet Comics, but never had a single Planet Stories pulp, and being a fan of Jack Vance and Leigh Brackett who appeared in it often I always hoped to come across some.
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Post by tarkintino on Jul 30, 2018 0:51:02 GMT -5
Comix International #1 (July, 1974), all art by Richard Corben. Heavy Metal Presents Alien: The Illustrated Story (June, 1979) by Walt Simonson.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Jul 30, 2018 4:03:56 GMT -5
Here's one for balance... I know Trina Robbins liked this particular issue too. I have had six or seven Planet Comics, but never had a single Planet Stories pulp, and being a fan of Jack Vance and Leigh Brackett who appeared in it often I always hoped to come across some. If you don't mind reading them in electronic form, you can always check the Pulp Magazine collection at the Internet Archive. Just write Planet Stories in the little search box to the left, and you'll get tons of results - they're free and legal to download in several different formats. That site was indispensable for me in tracking down the Brackett and MacDonald stories I mentioned above.
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Post by Jesse on Jul 30, 2018 8:00:32 GMT -5
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Post by Confessor on Jul 30, 2018 18:12:50 GMT -5
I can't see any of Jesse's images (even tried opening the page on a different browser). Anyone having the same problem, or know how to get around it? You live somewhere in Europe? Some the picture link to are from a site that not GDPR compliant so can't view them. I thought at first it my browser to but maybe thats your issue too I can't see Jesse's pictures either. Definitely must be a European thing.
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