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Post by Warmonger on Sept 12, 2018 9:38:28 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2018 10:10:31 GMT -5
That kills Warners Bros to develop anymore movies and this will boost Disney (Marvel Entertainment) considerably and I'm quite bitter about it.
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Post by brutalis on Sept 12, 2018 10:31:58 GMT -5
This isn't anything new. Warner's wasn't moving ahead with individual Superman movies and using Cavill more as a co-star than "the" big star. An actor becomes a "hot" commodity and wants more $'s or other options come along. Movies have truly become more like real jobs for most of us. NOBODY is irreplaceable anymore. Cavill looked impressive as all get out for Superman but another actor can do the job as well or better. We have had how many different Batman's now? How many Bonds? Warner Bro's will replace/recast other actors/actresses as necessary and move forward with their movie plans. Disney/Marvel or any other companies will do the same. It's a natural occurrence these days.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2018 10:59:59 GMT -5
I liked Henry Cavill as Superman...maybe this will open the door for him to become James Bond.
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Post by brutalis on Sept 12, 2018 12:03:02 GMT -5
I liked Henry Cavill as Superman...maybe this will open the door for him to become James Bond. Actually hoping not. Too good looking and "buff/slick" looking for my idea of what 007 should be. I don't feel Cavill would make for a interesting or good Bond. But that's just my own gut feeling. He was OK as Napoleon Solo for Man from Uncle but Bond requires a whole other level of actor. Though from what I have read about Cavill he does already have the Bond Ego?!?
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Sept 12, 2018 12:06:13 GMT -5
I've never seen him act as Superman.
So...okay.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2018 12:08:35 GMT -5
on twitter his manager is now saying not so fast and to expect an announcement from WB this afternoon
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Post by aquagoat on Sept 12, 2018 13:22:39 GMT -5
That kills Warners Bros to develop anymore movies and this will boost Disney (Marvel Entertainment) considerably and I'm quite bitter about it. Why does it boost Marvel?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2018 14:19:09 GMT -5
Cavill has already signed on to play the lead in the Netflix Witcher series so he wasn't going to be available to do much for a while anyways. The Hollywood reporter also added that Dc is developing a big budget Supergirl movie with a teen protagonist and this would move back any potential Superman solo films for several years as well, at which time they would need a younger actor for the Superman lead anyways. SO in a lot of ways, it;s a lot of ado for nothing.
For me, Cavill may have looked the part, but I found most of the DC movies he was in to be nearly unwatchable for other reasons. Man of Steel was meh, starting ok but getting worse as it proceeded, BvS was nearly 3 hours of my life I will never get back with one decent scene featuring Wonder Woman being the only salvageable part, and Justice League was about 15 minutes of good movie in a 2 1/2 hour package. So I am ok with DC trying to change things up to make the movies better.
-M
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Sept 12, 2018 15:08:26 GMT -5
Cavill has already signed on to play the lead in the Netflix Witcher series so he wasn't going to be available to do much for a while anyways. The Hollywood reporter also added that Dc is developing a big budget Supergirl movie with a teen protagonist and this would move back any potential Superman solo films for several years as well, at which time they would need a younger actor for the Superman lead anyways. SO in a lot of ways, it;s a lot of ado for nothing. For me, Cavill may have looked the part, but I found most of the DC movies he was in to be nearly unwatchable for other reasons. Man of Steel was meh, starting ok but getting worse as it proceeded, BvS was nearly 3 hours of my life I will never get back with one decent scene featuring Wonder Woman being the only salvageable part, and Justice League was about 15 minutes of good movie in a 2 1/2 hour package. So I am ok with DC trying to change things up to make the movies better. -M I don't really have a dog in this fight because the only DC movie I've seen is the only one that looked worth watching and that was Wonder Woman. But you don't change up a faltering "franchise" by scrapping an actor who was given nothing to work with. They need to be scrapping pretty much the entire works, sans Wonder Woman and starting over with the concept that you make good singularl movies and build to something bigger. Because the concept of having a "cinematic universe" and shoehorning crap movies into it didn't work for DC/Warner and it didn't work for the Universal fiasco.
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Post by rberman on Sept 12, 2018 19:19:55 GMT -5
I first discovered Cavill when he was playing on The Tudors as Henry VIII's chief advisor over the course of several decades. He look the part for Superman for sure. It's hard to say how well he played the part since I didn't like the direction those films went. I keep waiting for Warner Brothers to figure out that Superman is an optimistic character.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2018 20:04:13 GMT -5
That kills Warners Bros to develop anymore movies and this will boost Disney (Marvel Entertainment) considerably and I'm quite bitter about it. Why does it boost Marvel? Because Cavill is a major player in Warners Bros lineup of DC Superheroes - the other one in Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman and now Cavill is out and that's going to HURT IN A BIG WAY of DC ever catching MARVEL ENTERTAINMENT and that's will boost Marvel in terms of ticket sales and no one will ever see a DC COMICS movie anymore. That's my thinking and frankly I'm mad at Warners Bros for not making a serious commitment to movies that focus on DC Comics. I'm sad and bitter about it and simply care less about Warners Bros anymore. For the record, if any DC Comics movie(s) that are Superhero Related -- I'm not going to spend a single cent on them anymore. That's my pledge.
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 12, 2018 21:42:09 GMT -5
Personally, I never saw this as DC vs Marvel and get rather tired of that angle on the films. Warner has had bad scripts and directors making a hash of their recent films. Marvel Studios has done a decent job, though a big chunk of those films are mostly forgettable after you leave the theater, finish the disc/streaming. There are a select few that really stand out. I could care less if Disney makes more money or Warner; both are massive conglomerates who treat people poorly and promote incompetents as much as, if not more than the deserving. Like most corporations. I'm not cheering either on.
There are good people involved in making the products (and they are products, for more than they are art) and it's nice to see when they do a good job and receive some reward for that; but, Disney and Warner will always make money on this stuff, even when the film is a failure or a disappointment. They are structured to make money across too many platforms to really lose money, unless the entire world rejects them and the foreign markets have proven to boost up even the crappiest of major studio films
As for Cavill? I thought he was a boring Superman in a really bad Superman movie, and two other bad films with other DC characters. I don't blame him, as the story was terrible and the director has yet to produce anything I find even remotely entertaining, let alone "great."
I think Warner needs to clean house at the top and get producers with some real vision, not accountants who just calculate how much money the film will make, in X, Y and Z markets, plus cross-promotions. I'm not holding my breath waiting for that to happen; not in today's Hollywood.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2018 8:00:12 GMT -5
Cavill is a good actor, the DC films he was in were fairly poor though... if they are going to continue to make dull films like that, anyone can be Superman. Nobody will care.
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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 13, 2018 9:14:37 GMT -5
He never really grabbed me as Superman. He has a nice career otherwise and doesn't need to continue putting on the cape.
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