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Post by zaku on Feb 23, 2019 13:12:49 GMT -5
It was just bad and boring? Sometimes people search for some magic formula, but if it existed, all the published comics would be masterpieces. Often it all boils down to just how good the authors are. I remember when Morrison wrote the X-Men. His stories are usually remembered favorably, while Austen, who wrote the other mutant series at the same time (often with the same characters), well, let's say that it is not usually cited as the best period of this comic book.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2019 13:36:25 GMT -5
It wasn't even on my radar back then. The concept and mix of characters don't interest me enough to read it now.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 14:10:37 GMT -5
As I re-read (does reread have a hyphen in it?) early The Defenders, I am in awe of how the concept works. Strange, Namor and Hulk work in spite of their differences. It is a very, very loose alliance. It is the most tenuous 'team' one could ever read about. Hulk became jealous in one issue as Strange had thanked Namor, but not him. He also accused Strange of using big words. Strange's problem is that as the titular leader, he keeps giving Hulk orders. Hulk doesn't like that. It might have been best for the good doctor to change the way he conveyed instructions, saying something like, "Hulk, could you smash that door for us?" Instead, we get something like, "Hulk, smash that door!" That only leads to Hulk saying, "Do not give Hulk orders, magician!"  The point I am making is that I am having a ball reading these issues, and the USP of the "non-team" of loners is making it work. |
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Post by berkley on Feb 25, 2019 17:52:53 GMT -5
Hulk became jealous in one issue as Strange had thanked Namor, but not him. He also accused Strange of using big words. I don't remember that bit so I'm going to guess that it's from one of the early issues written by Englehart or Wein that I haven't read yet - and my money is on Englehart: I always found his writing notable for nice little character moments like that, things most comics writers wouldn't think of. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2019 18:15:51 GMT -5
I think it was the third or fourth issue (reading the Essential volume, up to about the fifth issue).
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Post by Mormel on Feb 26, 2019 1:13:29 GMT -5
As I was reading Champions, I felt as though it had an unclear premise. They said they were going to be the team that sticks up for the little man, but up until #8 or so, they were still wrapped up in officially announcing their team and other red tape nonsense.
I had a good time reading it, but I get why it was cancelled so quickly if it didn't really bring anything new to the Marvel table.
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