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Post by Slam_Bradley on Mar 10, 2019 18:32:47 GMT -5
Who are y'all talking about when you say "Spider-Woman?" Because I can't imagine anyone outside hardcore comics fans knowing who Spider-Woman/Jessica Drew is. Hell, I didn't even realize she'd had a cartoon until I looked it up on Wiki. I would hazard that at this point Spider Gwen is better known than Spider-Woman, simply because of the Spider-verse movie. Indeed, at the moment, Negasonic Teenage Warhead is better known than Storm. Who woulda thunk it? Possibly. Maybe even probably. On the other hand I've seen both Deadpool movies and couldn't have named that character if my life depended on it. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Mar 10, 2019 22:08:52 GMT -5
I think it depends on the age of the person... Baby Boomer? Probably Invisible Girl (I don't think she was Invisible Woman in the cartoons). Grew up in the 80s? Definitely Firestar. 90s? Storm, with Jubilee a close 2nd (she was Wolverine's sidekick). Now? Ms. Marvel and Moon Girl are both in the scholastic book club set.. so proabably one of them.. maybe Capt. Marvel if the movie continues to do so well... we'll see.
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Post by beccabear67 on Mar 10, 2019 22:44:53 GMT -5
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Post by beccabear67 on Mar 10, 2019 23:07:27 GMT -5
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Post by Chris on Mar 10, 2019 23:17:35 GMT -5
The best way to know if a character has achieved cultural penetration is to ask "Would a random stranger recognize their theme song?" Wonder Woman - theme song. Spider-Man - theme song. Batgirl - has a theme song but I doubt anyone really knows it today, but if you hum the Batman TV theme, a fair number of people will recall Batgirl. So, close enough. Spider-Woman - ...who? Uh, is that like Spider-MAN, kinda? So, few if any female Marvel characters have achieved that. Somehow I doubt Captain Marvel will have a snappy tune people can whistle. I would hazard that at this point Spider Gwen is better known than Spider-Woman, simply because of the Spider-verse movie. Indeed, at the moment, Negasonic Teenage Warhead is better known than Storm. Who woulda thunk it? She had a better theme song. |
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Post by hondobrode on Mar 11, 2019 0:10:27 GMT -5
I think up until a few months ago it probably would've been Storm, but would definitely say it is, or will be, Captain Marvel.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 0:55:05 GMT -5
Non-comic readers might have seen this book on the shelves at a regular bookstore in the 70s (I remember going into a Walden Books at the mall and seeing an endcap filled with the Marvel Fireside books), but I wonder how many of them could have named a single character on the cover?  -M |
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Post by zaku on Mar 11, 2019 1:26:16 GMT -5
Non-comic readers might have seen this book on the shelves at a regular bookstore in the 70s (I remember going into a Walden Books at the mall and seeing an endcap filled with the Marvel Fireside books), but I wonder how many of them could have named a single character on the cover? -M They had so few female characters that that had to include a licensed one and the Goddess of Death..?  And by the way, probably in the 70s the best know female Marvel superhero would be the Invisible Girl... I mean...she is in the centre of the cover right? 😉 |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 7:57:13 GMT -5
Most of my friends with kids would probably say Black Widow as they have watched all the Marvel movies. Going forward, it will probably be Captain Marvel.
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Post by zaku on Mar 11, 2019 8:18:11 GMT -5
So, just to recap the various opinions: - '60s to the mid '70s: probably the Invisible Girl (like, you show an image of her and they reply "I think I've already seen her somewhere...")
- Late '70s: Spider-Woman.
- '80s: Firestar
- '90s: Storm/Jubilee
- 2010s: Black Widow
- The future: Capitan Marvel
Of course, none of them can come close to the fame of Wonder Woman. I'm forgetting someone? |
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Post by brutalis on Mar 11, 2019 8:20:48 GMT -5
Marvel has no best known. Where DC has Wonder Woman and Supergirl and Batgirl. The only Marvel lady people will know is whoever is currently being pushed in the movies, which changes.
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Post by tarkintino on Mar 11, 2019 8:21:32 GMT -5
Non-comic readers might have seen this book on the shelves at a regular bookstore in the 70s (I remember going into a Walden Books at the mall and seeing an endcap filled with the Marvel Fireside books), but I wonder how many of them could have named a single character on the cover?
-M I would say none. I remember the days when this era of Fireside / Simon and Schuster's Marvel TPBs were published and while they were in every bookstore, a non-comic fan would be hard-pressed to know even one of the character's names. If it was the Wonder Woman collection from that era (and just pretend the name was not on the cover), few would have trouble identifying the character--the same with Batgirl no matter what piece of merchandising featured her image (e.g., Mego's action figures, puzzles, etc.). |
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Post by Mister Spaceman on Mar 11, 2019 9:07:47 GMT -5
I never even heard of Firestar until this thread.
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Post by rberman on Mar 11, 2019 9:14:19 GMT -5
I never even heard of Firestar until this thread. She was a staple of Saturday morning cartoon watching when I was a kid. It was several years later before she entered Marvel Comics in print; I reviewed her series here. Then she joined the New Warriors. |
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Post by MDG on Mar 11, 2019 9:21:07 GMT -5
I've always felt that adults who aren't/weren't active comic fans would be hard pressed to name a dozen superhero characters without some prompting. Also that most that they name would have been created before 1968.
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