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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 14, 2019 7:21:42 GMT -5
The superstar artist has fueled comics from its inception. From Lou fine and Matt Baker to Neal Adams to Alan Davis, many a comic has been sold because of their presence in a book. But what about the second tier artists that have populated the comic landscape? What order do you rank them and what are your impressions of their work on various books? This is my list of Non-superstar artists that have made a positive lasting impression on the comic business. I define second tier artists as creators that would not make you go out of your way to buy the book because of their presence , but wouldn't drive you away either.
These artists I really enjoyed , but wouldn't classify as "Stars". Sal Buscema Rich Buckler Pat Broderick Keith Pollard Paul Ryan Bob Brown Irv Novick Ron Lim Paul Pelletier Brent Anderson
All the rest Jim Aparo? Dick Ayers Marie Severin John Severin Don Heck George Tuska Billy Graham Dick Dillan Joe Staton Ross Andru Carmine Infantino Ron Frenz Bob Hall Don Perlin Mark Bright Adrian Gonzales Greg Laroque Steve Epting ? Norm Breyfogle ? Steve Erwin Kevin McGuire Tom Grummet Mark Bagley Greg Capullo ? Steve Dillon ?
Sorry for anyone that I didn't list. The people with question marks are artists that might be considered stars. I tried to list the people that had a body of work and not artists that left quickly after a few years. Who would you include ?
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Post by The Captain on Apr 14, 2019 7:34:53 GMT -5
Gene Colan - probably borderline "star", but certainly not in the same tier as a Byrne or Sienkiewicz or the like Herb Trimpe - once he settled in on Hulk, carved out a nice career for himself Michael Golden - great work on Micronauts, but never got the big-time acclaim as his peers Ron Garney - one of the guys from the "big guns, big muscles, big boobs" Marvel 90s who evolved over time into a much-better artist Jackson "Butch" Guice - done a lot of good solid work over the years. I liken him to a Ron Frenz; you want him on your roster, but not necessarily in your starting lineup every day.
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Post by rberman on Apr 14, 2019 7:49:15 GMT -5
I would rank Golden and Brent Anderson as first tier.
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Post by shaxper on Apr 14, 2019 7:52:58 GMT -5
Breyfogle should have been a star. I think his loyalty in the early '90s while every other talented artist was looking out for themselves actually hurt his reputation.
Billy Graham may yet become a star in hindsight. Lots of buzz about him lately in the wake of the Black Panther film.
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Post by MDG on Apr 14, 2019 8:04:34 GMT -5
Infantino isn't popular with (younger) fans, but among other artists, he'd probably be considered top tier. Ditto both Severins.
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 14, 2019 8:08:16 GMT -5
Gene Colan - probably borderline "star", but certainly not in the same tier as a Byrne or Sienkiewicz or the like I left some people off the list that I considered stars. Colan was one of them. I bought Nightforce just because he was drawing it. No, I never considered him as a good artist. I really liked Jackson Guice' work on his flash run.
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 14, 2019 8:09:58 GMT -5
Infantino isn't popular with (younger) fans, but among other artists, he'd probably be considered top tier. Ditto both Severins. I consider a "star" to be someone you would buy a book just because of their art. I never liked Infantinos art and his later stuff was terrible.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Apr 14, 2019 8:34:48 GMT -5
Gene Colan - probably borderline "star", but certainly not in the same tier as a Byrne or Sienkiewicz or the like Herb Trimpe - once he settled in on Hulk, carved out a nice career for himself Michael Golden - great work on Micronauts, but never got the big-time acclaim as his peers Ron Garney - one of the guys from the "big guns, big muscles, big boobs" Marvel 90s who evolved over time into a much-better artist Jackson "Butch" Guice - done a lot of good solid work over the years. I liken him to a Ron Frenz; you want him on your roster, but not necessarily in your starting lineup every day. I was just thinking about Herb Trimpe today as I reread his run on Godzilla. It used to bother me that his take on one of the best monsters of filmland looked nothing like it did on screen but I found on rereading it again that once you get past the fact that it looks nothing like Godzilla it's actually a really great dinosaur monster in it's own right as Trimpe comes up with some really stunning, but subtle facial ticks that really allow him to get the monster emote in a great way.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2019 8:52:01 GMT -5
My Top 15 in no order ...Sal Buscema Keith Pollard Irv Novick Jim Aparo Marie Severin John Severin Don Heck George Tuska Dick Dillan Joe Staton Ross AndruCarmine InfantinoRon Frenz Norm Breyfogle Steve Dillon I consider both Andru and Infantino Stars when they both did Wonder (Andru) Woman and The (Infantino) Flash and I really like Carmine when he redesigned The Flash and more importantly when Ross did Wonder Woman and the DC Ladies in that Cover that I shared with you ... he did it with Class and Dignity. The ones that are not highlighted are near stars and I do enjoy their work when I do see them.
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Post by MDG on Apr 14, 2019 9:27:17 GMT -5
Infantino isn't popular with (younger) fans, but among other artists, he'd probably be considered top tier. Ditto both Severins. I consider a "star" to be someone you would buy a book just because of their art. I never liked Infantinos art and his later stuff was terrible. By that definition, my only mainstream "star" artists are Toth, Wrightson, and Rogers.
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 14, 2019 9:46:44 GMT -5
My list is longer- Neal Adams Alan Davis Jim Starlin Byrne back in the day George Perez
Jack Kirby John Buscema Others that escape my mind and right now.
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Post by crazyoldhermit on Apr 14, 2019 9:50:55 GMT -5
Greg Capullo is definitely a star these days.
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Post by The Captain on Apr 14, 2019 12:59:07 GMT -5
My list is longer- Neal Adams Alan Davis Jim Starlin Byrne back in the day George Perez Jack Kirby John Buscema Others that escape my mind and right now. Barry Windsor-Smith? Bill Sienkiewicz? Jim Steranko?
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Post by thwhtguardian on Apr 14, 2019 13:51:29 GMT -5
My list is longer- Neal Adams Alan Davis Jim Starlin Byrne back in the day George Perez Jack Kirby John Buscema Others that escape my mind and right now. Barry Windsor-Smith? Bill Sienkiewicz? Jim Steranko? Ha yeah, those don't exactly say second tier to me.
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 14, 2019 15:11:45 GMT -5
My list is longer- Neal Adams Alan Davis Jim Starlin Byrne back in the day George Perez Jack Kirby John Buscema Others that escape my mind and right now. Barry Windsor-Smith? Bill Sienkiewicz? Jim Steranko? I omitted some obvious stars from the initial list. It's a pet peeve of mine that when one of these threads are started asking for names , someone invariably posts a list with 50 names. I feel that those posts effectively kills the thread. Also, The names with question marks might be considered to be stars in some readers eyes.
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