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Post by Duragizer on Apr 10, 2020 16:32:07 GMT -5
A mullet on Superman was just wrong. A mullet on anyone is just wrong! I wore a mullet once. Not my proudest haircut. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2020 16:44:09 GMT -5
Not everything from the 90s is bargain bin fodder. I might have flipped past this thinking it looks too childish (even though I was still a child) and now it sells for over $300. First appearance Harley Quinn
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Post by Confessor on Apr 10, 2020 18:00:11 GMT -5
A mullet on anyone is just wrong! I wore a mullet once. Not my proudest haircut. Oh man, you and me both! My Mum has a photo of me aged 14 in the late 80s, and my mullet is absolutely appalling in it. I wouldn't mind, but to this day she insists on displaying that photograph prominently in her living room. It taunts me every time I visit! |
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 10, 2020 18:25:04 GMT -5
A mullet on Superman was just wrong. A mullet on anyone is just wrong! Except pro wrestlers....  and future Undertakers...  |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Apr 10, 2020 18:25:14 GMT -5
Hah! I never wore a mullet!!!
...but I thought they looked cool.
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Post by Batflunkie on Apr 10, 2020 18:32:36 GMT -5
A mullet on anyone is just wrong! Except pro wrestlers.... Didn't the Rock N' Roll Express still have mullets years after the fact? |
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 10, 2020 18:41:01 GMT -5
I like Alex Ross' work; but, he is pretty well unknown outside of comics fans. He did some commercial art before he got into comics; but, with Marvels, he was making great money in the world he loved, comics. One of the few high profile gigs he has had was crafting a poster for the 74th Academy Awards, in 2002...  He did design work for the movie Unbreakable; but M Night Shamalama-ding-dong is a fan. However, none of that led to more and more work outside of comics. His work is framed on walls; but, they are primarily the walls of comic book fans. That's not to say he might not transition into other things, though he hasn't shown much interest. I think he could easily do just as well in commercial art. WEven in the fine art world, illustrators tend to fall into more specific selling markets, catering to a particular fanbase. You have those who specialize in military-themed paintings, aimed at military history buffs, armchair soldiers and real veterans. There are guys like Thomas Kinkade selling in their own galleries, to religious clients. Ross found his niche and it earns him a nice income, from the photos I have seen of his home and studio. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 10, 2020 18:46:04 GMT -5
Except pro wrestlers.... Didn't the Rock N' Roll Express still have mullets years after the fact? Still do; sort of....  That's from October of last year. Morton sort of still has one, but it is more "Party in the back" than "Business in the front." Robert Gibson is balding at both ends and can't really manage enough hair for either party or business. These guys are still teaming and working after 40 years (divorce and partying in the 80s are partial reasons)! They don't bump like the old days; but, they work around their limitations well., |
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Post by tartanphantom on Apr 10, 2020 18:51:57 GMT -5
Hah! I never wore a mullet!!! ...but I thought they looked cool.I'm proud to say that I never did either. I never really cared for the style, and by the time they were popular, I was out of college and working a job where a mullet just wouldn't fly. |
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Post by tarkintino on Apr 10, 2020 19:03:04 GMT -5
Not everything from the 90s is bargain bin fodder. I might have flipped past this thinking it looks too childish (even though I was still a child) and now it sells for over $300. First appearance Harley Quinn While all output from the industry of the 90s was not "bargain bin fodder" (for one example, the rise of a brilliant artist like Alex Ross was an eye-opener for all the right reasons), the worst of it (Endless "X" this or that, and not just meaning X-Men related, gimmick covers, most of the Image explosion, zero-numbered books, etc.) took so much of the stage, defining the decade. Its difficult to point to any earlier decade of comics that suffered as much as the 90s. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2020 19:53:36 GMT -5
All these mentions of Alex Ross made me remember he had a 90s mini series called Terminator The Burning Earth. I know I have it somewhere in the rubble....
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Post by chadwilliam on Apr 10, 2020 20:22:03 GMT -5
You have a very beautiful wife and son, tartan. Do you have any idea how long it took me to get my collar to stand up like that?
Now I'm trying to figure out which of the three is you. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2020 20:48:04 GMT -5
I like Alex Ross' work; but, he is pretty well unknown outside of comics fans. He did some commercial art before he got into comics; but, with Marvels, he was making great money in the world he loved, comics. One of the few high profile gigs he has had was crafting a poster for the 74th Academy Awards, in 2002... He did design work for the movie Unbreakable; but M Night Shamalama-ding-dong is a fan. However, none of that led to more and more work outside of comics. His work is framed on walls; but, they are primarily the walls of comic book fans. That's not to say he might not transition into other things, though he hasn't shown much interest. I think he could easily do just as well in commercial art. WEven in the fine art world, illustrators tend to fall into more specific selling markets, catering to a particular fanbase. You have those who specialize in military-themed paintings, aimed at military history buffs, armchair soldiers and real veterans. There are guys like Thomas Kinkade selling in their own galleries, to religious clients. Ross found his niche and it earns him a nice income, from the photos I have seen of his home and studio. I have seen canvas reproductions of a couple of his pieces on sale in places like Walmart, Meijers, art supply stores, etc. over the years (mostly around the time his book Mythology came out, but again around the time Marvelocity was released last year), so there is at least a market for his work outside comic shops even if the customers might not know who he is. -M |
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 10, 2020 21:20:21 GMT -5
I like Alex Ross' work; but, he is pretty well unknown outside of comics fans. He did some commercial art before he got into comics; but, with Marvels, he was making great money in the world he loved, comics. One of the few high profile gigs he has had was crafting a poster for the 74th Academy Awards, in 2002... He did design work for the movie Unbreakable; but M Night Shamalama-ding-dong is a fan. However, none of that led to more and more work outside of comics. His work is framed on walls; but, they are primarily the walls of comic book fans. That's not to say he might not transition into other things, though he hasn't shown much interest. I think he could easily do just as well in commercial art. WEven in the fine art world, illustrators tend to fall into more specific selling markets, catering to a particular fanbase. You have those who specialize in military-themed paintings, aimed at military history buffs, armchair soldiers and real veterans. There are guys like Thomas Kinkade selling in their own galleries, to religious clients. Ross found his niche and it earns him a nice income, from the photos I have seen of his home and studio. I have seen canvas reproductions of a couple of his pieces on sale in places like Walmart, Meijers, art supply stores, etc. over the years (mostly around the time his book Mythology came out, but again around the time Marvelocity was released last year), so there is at least a market for his work outside comic shops even if the customers might not know who he is. -M Oh, certainly, as there is a decent market for comic book-inspired wall graphics, with cover reproductions and character pieces. Ross did some pieces for the defunct Warner Brothers stores, including pieces seen in Mythology. I think he could easily end up like Jack Vettriano, producing commercial prints that are sold in art stores and home decor sections in Target and Walmart. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2020 23:48:41 GMT -5
I have seen canvas reproductions of a couple of his pieces on sale in places like Walmart, Meijers, art supply stores, etc. over the years (mostly around the time his book Mythology came out, but again around the time Marvelocity was released last year), so there is at least a market for his work outside comic shops even if the customers might not know who he is. -M Oh, certainly, as there is a decent market for comic book-inspired wall graphics, with cover reproductions and character pieces. Ross did some pieces for the defunct Warner Brothers stores, including pieces seen in Mythology. I think he could easily end up like Jack Vettriano, producing commercial prints that are sold in art stores and home decor sections in Target and Walmart. But if you leave up to the public to know the artist, you will always be disappointed, there are people I knew who had framed prints of fine art but didn't know the artist, The Scream being most common, who couldn't name the Munch if you gave them twenty guesses, American Gothic being another, but no one dismisses them by saying, well they're only known by people into fine art. It's more our societal inclination to appropriate another's effort, calling it art but dismissing the hands behind it as unimportant or irrelevant (which is a whole other can of worms) than it is about how well known an artist or their work is. Ross' work has transcended the "comic shop ghetto" so to speak, and pretty much so have super-heroes and super-hero art as they have become the pop market darlings of the early 21st century. They are not relegated to being only for comic book fans or only sold in comic shops and only known by the ghetto dwellers there, it has become the mass culture and known to mass audiences, it's just that the mass audience couldn't give two craps about who produces any art, they just appropriate it as their own. That doesn't just apply to Ross or comic artists in general, but all artists and even all creators unless the creator him- or herself becomes a product or a brand (someone like Tarantino comes to mind here, or Warhol if we are keeping it to artists). To get back to Ross, I think the truth lies somewhere between the two extremes presented here-his renown and recognition is not limited to the comic book ghetto, but he is not a household name either, a recognizable brand known to all, but there are people who will recognize his work (and possibly know his name) who are not comic shop customers, because "comics*" has become the mass pop culture. -M by comics here, I mean the properties that began as comic book properties but have transcended that beginning, not the physical objects with panels and pages sold as monthly periodical pamphlets or collected editions-the content of such have become pop culture staples, the physical medium of comics books is still a ghetto niche hobby |
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