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Post by brutalis on Jan 27, 2021 12:00:21 GMT -5
Thanks to the truly awesome brutalis, I watched all 5 parts of the CW COIE. It was so much fun, although I never watched an episode on ANY of the CW shows , I was able to jump on and make sense of it. Favorite moments: Tom Welling and Durance living happily ever after and not being killed by Luthor. ( I guess not until the end anyway) Marv Wolfman making a cameo in the final part Rothman reprising his Superman role Was that the girl from the Birds of Prey Tv show that died quickly in Part 4 ? Burt Ward The Movie Flash meeting the TV Flash The Flash from the 90's show sacrificing himself Here's a question, Did the Green Arrow show continue after this event, or was it already canceled? Yes, that was Huntress (Batman and Catwomans daughter) from Birds of Prey in part 4 that died. Arrow was in it's final season and had 1 0r 2 episodes after Crisis as their FINALE. And I LOVED that 90's Flash got big time recognition going out as a TRUE HERO. Also loved the respect and recognition given to Routh Superman and it sucked, but felt really comic book right that Luthor managed to one up ALL the heroes and take his spot as a Paragon. And a SUPERB performance as Lex. Great enough they brought Luthor back for more in the Supergirl season after Crisis. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jan 27, 2021 14:33:59 GMT -5
Since Supergirl season 5 was just made available on Netflix Canada, I started watching the first episode of Crisis yesterday.
I love the idea of having actors from different film and TV versions of the DC franchises making an appearance; I also think that the series does a fairly good job of translating the comics' main idea to the small screen.
On the other hand, the glaring nonsensical aspects of Crisis seem that much worse on TV, perhaps because we're looking at real actors. Plus there were added nonsensical details that would have been better off left unsaid (details like how much time it takes to get from here to there are much better left vague if the actual data is going to make no sense).
Too bad I won't be able to see all the chapters, but Youtube may help fill in the blanks!
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Post by shaxper on Jan 27, 2021 14:41:17 GMT -5
I was so into the first season of Supergirl and then lost interest fast when Cat Grant left. Honestly, now that the excitement has died down, is it worth making time for the ensuing 3.5 seasons? Or should I just jump to Crisis?
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jan 27, 2021 15:53:37 GMT -5
I was so into the first season of Supergirl and then lost interest fast when Cat Grant left. Honestly, now that the excitement has died down, is it worth making time for the ensuing 3.5 seasons? Or should I just jump to Crisis? Yeah, Cat was great; so was Winn... but actors seem to come and go quickly on that series, leading to unfortunate direction changes. I really enjoyed season 2 and 3, and the relationship between Kara and Mon-El, played for laughs at first, was eventually pretty interesting. The lad managed to grow up in the end. Season 4 became noticeably more involved in social commentary, which I suppose can be a good thing, but personally its ham-fisted wokeness started annoying me at some point. I disliked the cosmetic change in season 5. What? Pants? No, I don't mind the pants at all, it's the bangs I don't care for!!! I'm also not too keen on the way Lena's character was eventually developed. Come on, TV people, surprise us some day! |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jan 31, 2021 18:48:33 GMT -5
I just realized... At the end of the CW Crisis, as in the comics, the multiverse was fused into just one, right?
So how can the DC cinematic continue to exist, seeing that it was one of the universes we saw during the TV Crisis?
"See, there, kid, that's exactly what too much devotion to continuity sounds like. Just let it go".
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Post by brutalis on Jan 31, 2021 23:07:17 GMT -5
I just realized... At the end of the CW Crisis, as in the comics, the multiverse was fused into just one, right? So how can the DC cinematic continue to exist, seeing that it was one of the universes we saw during the TV Crisis? "See, there, kid, that's exactly what too much devotion to continuity sounds like. Just let it go". Wrong actually. CW/Arrowverse was the only "merged" portion uniting all their shows of Supergirl, Batwoman and Black Lightning onto Flash and Arrow's world. The multiverse was recreated as Stargirl, Doom Patrol, Swamp Thing, DCMovie U, Routh Superverse, Burton Batverse etc were all given their respective universal continuities. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Feb 1, 2021 7:55:07 GMT -5
I just realized... At the end of the CW Crisis, as in the comics, the multiverse was fused into just one, right? So how can the DC cinematic continue to exist, seeing that it was one of the universes we saw during the TV Crisis? "See, there, kid, that's exactly what too much devotion to continuity sounds like. Just let it go". Wrong actually. CW/Arrowverse was the only "merged" portion uniting all their shows of Supergirl, Batwoman and Black Lightning onto Flash and Arrow's world. The multiverse was recreated as Stargirl, Doom Patrol, Swamp Thing, DCMovie U, Routh Superverse, Burton Batverse etc were all given their respective universal continuities. Thanks, Brutalis! I'll sleep more peacefully now. Next question, then : why were those universes recreated while others were not? That doesn't sound fair! (Cue Ryan George's writer guy : "So that those series could happen".)  |
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Post by brutalis on Feb 1, 2021 8:59:23 GMT -5
Wrong actually. CW/Arrowverse was the only "merged" portion uniting all their shows of Supergirl, Batwoman and Black Lightning onto Flash and Arrow's world. The multiverse was recreated as Stargirl, Doom Patrol, Swamp Thing, DCMovie U, Routh Superverse, Burton Batverse etc were all given their respective universal continuities. Thanks, Brutalis! I'll sleep more peacefully now. Next question, then : why were those universes recreated while others were not? That doesn't sound fair! (Cue Ryan George's writer guy : "So that those series could happen".) I think those were just spotlighted as they are/were current at the moment. As a TV show they weren't interested in naming ALL the multiverse for the need to know nerd crowd. |
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Post by tarkintino on Feb 3, 2021 10:54:14 GMT -5
I just realized... At the end of the CW Crisis, as in the comics, the multiverse was fused into just one, right? So how can the DC cinematic continue to exist, seeing that it was one of the universes we saw during the TV Crisis? "See, there, kid, that's exactly what too much devotion to continuity sounds like. Just let it go". There was no official merging of any other DC property with the CW shows, so the DCEU is its own entity (thankfully, and I seriously doubt you will ever see any of the films make references to the CW--a good thing, as most of the CW is low-rent and often script-challenged). The same applies to the stunt cameo of Burt Ward, because WB may own the Dick Grayson character, but the 1966-68 TV series (and movie spin-off) is still owned (or partially owned) by Fox, and I believe the estate of William Dozier has some continued interest in the property. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Feb 3, 2021 13:23:10 GMT -5
I just realized... At the end of the CW Crisis, as in the comics, the multiverse was fused into just one, right? So how can the DC cinematic continue to exist, seeing that it was one of the universes we saw during the TV Crisis? "See, there, kid, that's exactly what too much devotion to continuity sounds like. Just let it go". There was no official merging of any other DC property with the CW shows, so the DCEU is its own entity (thankfully, and I seriously doubt you will ever see any of the films make references to the CW--a good thing, as most of the CW is low-rent and often script-challenged). The same applies to the stunt cameo of Burt Ward, because WB may own the Dick Grayson character, but the 1966-68 TV series (and movie spin-off) is still owned (or partially owned) by Fox, and I believe the estate of William Dozier has some continued interest in the property. My question came from seeing Flash from the Justice League movie meet the CW Flash, and Brandon Routh as Superman was very likely the same Brandon Routh as Superman seen in Superman Returns, so I assumed the movies were involved as well; but brutalis informed me that only a few universes actually got merged in the end, making my question moot. |
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