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Post by badwolf on Oct 29, 2019 14:51:59 GMT -5
IMO Thor should be able to beat Hulk. Hulk may be stronger but Thor has more powers at his disposal. Thor had to resort to snapping the Hulk's neck in a What If...? story. |
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Post by Graphic Autist on Oct 29, 2019 17:09:18 GMT -5
IMO Thor should be able to beat Hulk. Hulk may be stronger but Thor has more powers at his disposal. Thor had to resort to snapping the Hulk's neck in a What If...? story. I'm not sure even snapping his neck will kill him...in Future Imperfect, The Maestro (an evil Hulk from the future) snaps The Hulk's (who traveled to the future) neck, and Hulk is able to eventually recover from it.
I think he is now virtually unkillable, which kind of ruins the character for me.
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Post by badwolf on Oct 29, 2019 19:06:30 GMT -5
Thor had to resort to snapping the Hulk's neck in a What If...? story. I'm not sure even snapping his neck will kill him...in Future Imperfect, The Maestro (an evil Hulk from the future) snaps The Hulk's (who traveled to the future) neck, and Hulk is able to eventually recover from it.
I think he is now virtually unkillable, which kind of ruins the character for me.
Well, it did in this case. Thor then gave him a Viking funeral.
I don't buy Wolverine regenerating from a cell, either.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2019 20:23:38 GMT -5
But Popeye is "strong to the finish" 'cause he eats his spinach! Popeye vs. Hulk I'm betting on Popeye, he's like George Foreman in his '40s and would be the last guy standing.  Spinach? What... oh, you mean spinachk! I'll never place a bet against Popeye, but the Hulk's got him beat as far as braggadocio. Popeye doesn't constantly deal in superlatives, and his "I'm strong to the finichk..." theme is used for more diverse biographical purposes than just telling us about his strength. For instance, it also teaches us that he loves to go swimmin' with bare-naked wimmin. With the Hulk, it's non-stop smash-this and smash-that. |
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Post by beccabear67 on Oct 30, 2019 10:59:29 GMT -5
I don't buy Wolverine regenerating from a cell, either.
Whaaa? Really? Ewwwww. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 11:53:41 GMT -5
If Hulk Hogan exists in the Marvel Universe (and he sort of did show up in an episode of Marvel Comics Presents), I think he could defeat the Hulk. Hogan made a career out of beating monsters. He slammed Andre the Giant for goodness' sake. (I'll ignore the fact that Marvel's "Hulk Hogan" got his clock cleaned by the gray Hulk).
What about Juggernaut or Destroyer? I think either of them will defeat the Hulk conclusively one day.
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Post by chadwilliam on Nov 4, 2019 0:01:47 GMT -5
Marvel's recently reprinted both the first and last issue of the original six issue run as part of their Facsimile/True Believers line and I enjoyed both issues. I'm sure I've read the original brief run before, but beyond "What's that kid doing on that field?", "I have to save him!", "BOOM!", "Look at what's happened to you!", "Outta my way!", there wasn't much else I recalled during this re-read.
One thing I didn't get a feeling of was the notion that Lee wasn't really committed to The Hulk. Sure, his color changes from grey to green and his transformations are triggered by night fall, But Lee seems to be finetuning details here rather than just throwing different ideas at the wall and hoping something sticks. Having Banner getting weaker and weaker through each successive switch while The Hulk showed no such equivalent downgrading makes for some gripping reading. And hey, a title which starts with Jack Kirby doing the artwork on the first issue and Steve Ditko finishing the run is certainly worth a look.
Still, what was up with The Hulk having to wear a mask in issue six?
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Nov 4, 2019 9:49:39 GMT -5
I don't buy Wolverine regenerating from a cell, either.
Whaaa? Really? Ewwwww.I guess Hulk ripping him in half just wasn't edgy enough. lol |
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Post by Cei-U! on Nov 4, 2019 11:19:43 GMT -5
The Invisible Woman once defeated Hulk by sealing his head in a force field until he ran out of air and passed out. Strength ain't everything.
Cei-U!
I summon the epic takedown!
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Post by brutalis on Nov 4, 2019 13:23:38 GMT -5
The Invisible Woman once defeated Hulk by sealing his head in a force field until he ran out of air and passed out. Strength ain't everything. Cei-U! I summon the epic takedown! Today's Hulk would never let that happen. He would literally tear his own arm off and throw it at Sue or beat her with it until she was unconscious (or dead) before he passed out. Yet then again, today's Invisible Woman might just enlarge an invisible bubble inside Hulk's brain and burst his bubble so to say. Ain't comics fun kids?!? |
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Post by dbutler69 on Nov 5, 2019 14:53:17 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure both Doctor Strange and the Silver Surfer have defeated the Hulk, and fairly easily. I believe the Surfer just changed him back to Banner and Strange may have done that, or just put the Hulk to sleep. As far as being able to outslug the Hulk and defeat him in a one on one battle, I'm not sure anyone can do that, though I would think that Thor and pre-crisis Superman should be able to beat him, having basically the Hulk's strength plus other superpowers to call upon.
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Post by rberman on Nov 5, 2019 15:16:45 GMT -5
The Invisible Woman once defeated Hulk by sealing his head in a force field until he ran out of air and passed out. Strength ain't everything. Today's Hulk would never let that happen. He would literally tear his own arm off and throw it at Sue or beat her with it until she was unconscious (or dead) before he passed out. Yet then again, today's Invisible Woman might just enlarge an invisible bubble inside Hulk's brain and burst his bubble so to say. Ain't comics fun kids?!? Does Hulk even need puny oxygen? Hasn't he been to space, or deep underwater, for long periods? |
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Post by chadwilliam on Nov 5, 2019 21:15:24 GMT -5
I would think that Thor and pre-crisis Superman should be able to beat him, having basically the Hulk's strength plus other superpowers to call upon. I don't know enough about Thor to venture an opinion on his odds against The Hulk, but The Hulk wouldn't stand a chance against Superman. A guy who can leap an eighth of a mile and manage to hold up a mountain for a minute or two vs. a guy who can push the Earth out of its orbit isn't going to be much of a battle. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2019 23:15:59 GMT -5
I would think that Thor and pre-crisis Superman should be able to beat him, having basically the Hulk's strength plus other superpowers to call upon. I don't know enough about Thor to venture an opinion on his odds against The Hulk, but The Hulk wouldn't stand a chance against Superman. A guy who can leap an eighth of a mile and manage to hold up a mountain for a minute or two vs. a guy who can push the Earth out of its orbit isn't going to be much of a battle. That doesn't sound like Hulk vs. Superman, it sounds like Golden Age Superman as envisioned by Siegel and Shuster vs. Weisenger era Superman. -M |
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Post by chadwilliam on Nov 6, 2019 1:59:42 GMT -5
I don't know enough about Thor to venture an opinion on his odds against The Hulk, but The Hulk wouldn't stand a chance against Superman. A guy who can leap an eighth of a mile and manage to hold up a mountain for a minute or two vs. a guy who can push the Earth out of its orbit isn't going to be much of a battle. That doesn't sound like Hulk vs. Superman, it sounds like Golden Age Superman as envisioned by Siegel and Shuster vs. Weisenger era Superman. -M I thought that The Hulk could only leap about an "eighth of a mile" (and yeah, I know that same distance was ascribed to the early Superman as well) though a check online shows that The Hulk has actually leaped into space (where he passed out after complaining about the cold). I could be wrong, but the whole "holding up a mountain" being close to the upper limits of his strength I got from Secret Wars. Even into the late Bronze Age, Superman was still able to push the Earth around ( Superman 322 has him doing so at "three quarters of my full strength" for instance and Superman certainly wasn't complaining about how cold outer space was whenever he flew through it. It's just such a vast disparity between their strength levels that I always find it odd whenever the two are compared as if they could be equals. Besides, 1981's Superman and Spider-Man had Superman shrug off a punch from The Hulk as if he were nothing.  |
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