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Post by badwolf on Dec 5, 2019 11:56:19 GMT -5
Most of Lee & Kirby's FF
Half of Lee & Ditko's Spider-Man
but I have the omnis of both.
I haven't read Moore's Swamp Thing apart from an annual, but I did acquire several issues of it recently so I will soon. Wish they'd omni that (at least I don't think they have.) Since they've done Bronze Age Swamp Thing I think it's likely.
V for Vendetta - tried the first few issues when DC reprinted it but couldn't get into it. Might have been too young to understand it at the time. Would like to try again.
Frank Miller's non-Marvel/DC stuff like Ronin or 300.
Akira, wasn't into it when Marvel Epic published it but as I've re-watched the film and liked it much more, I am interested in giving the comic another try and have the box set now.
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 5, 2019 12:19:01 GMT -5
Post-Kirby FF Post-Ditko Spidey and Dr Strange Pretty much any DCs after 1992 Pretty much any Marvels after 1972 (aside from scattered issues) Usagi Yojimbo Plenty of newspaper strips--those are the ones I feel bad about missing You missed some goooooooood stuff. |
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Post by kirby101 on Dec 5, 2019 13:53:17 GMT -5
The biggest classic run I haven't read is the Wolfman/Perez Teen Titans.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2019 14:37:54 GMT -5
SO, when I started this thread I thought I would be in the minority, but...apparently I am not the only one who has not read a lot of the classic comic runs.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2019 14:40:58 GMT -5
The biggest classic run I haven't read is the Wolfman/Perez Teen Titans. You poor, poor, thing...read it immediately!  |
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Post by berkley on Dec 5, 2019 14:44:44 GMT -5
No, looking at pretty much any list of "classics" I might be directed towards and it's going to contain a majority of stuff I have no interest in, so that tag doesn't mean a thing to me in comics. For me, I like to discover new things, especially in comics. Things I might not have otherwise known about or tried. When I was a kid, every comic offered that sense of discovery because everything was new to me, and I became a fan of certain things, but after a while, even though I enjoyed the things I became a fan of, they didn't offer that sense of discovery and wonder they once had, so I began to explore other types of comics. First it was exploring DC in the 80s after growing up a Marvel kid, then some of the early direct market indies, then I discovered McCloud and Eisner and really began to explore all the corners of what comics had to offer. So when I look at best of lists or lists of classics, I am not looking for what are things like the stuff I already lie, but what on this list can offer me the sense of discovery that only finding new comics can. If it weren't for that approach, I never would have picked up Sandman when it was first released based on the recommendation of one of the lcs owners where I grew up, wouldn't have picked up the first issue of Watchmen when Dick Giordano recommended it to me at a store signing, never given Eisner or Bone a chance etc. and some of the books that are my absolute favorites of all time would have remained undiscovered territory. SO I see those lists not as things I should read because other people like them, but things I can explore to see if I like them. And if I find even one new gem in such a list, then the exploration was worth it. -M The problem for me is that most of those lists have such a narrow focus on superhero comics that I don't feel it's likely I'll find much new on there at this stage. That doesn't mean it's impossible, and I've definitely heard about lots of stuff here, for example, that I never would have known to try otherwise. But it does mean that I don't put much value on the word 'classic' as it's usually applied amongst us comics fans.
It can be problematic with respect to other media as well - "classic rock" comes to mind - but in similar lists for, say, films or novels, while you may well disagree with many entries I don't think you'll find the same narrowness or that they're so heavily weighted towards one specific genre, or even just towards genre fiction in general, as I think you do see in comics.
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Post by badwolf on Dec 5, 2019 14:50:08 GMT -5
The biggest classic run I haven't read is the Wolfman/Perez Teen Titans. Yeah I've read a chunk of it but not all... I do have the first three omnis though. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 5, 2019 15:06:44 GMT -5
For me, I like to discover new things, especially in comics. Things I might not have otherwise known about or tried. When I was a kid, every comic offered that sense of discovery because everything was new to me, and I became a fan of certain things, but after a while, even though I enjoyed the things I became a fan of, they didn't offer that sense of discovery and wonder they once had, so I began to explore other types of comics. First it was exploring DC in the 80s after growing up a Marvel kid, then some of the early direct market indies, then I discovered McCloud and Eisner and really began to explore all the corners of what comics had to offer. So when I look at best of lists or lists of classics, I am not looking for what are things like the stuff I already lie, but what on this list can offer me the sense of discovery that only finding new comics can. If it weren't for that approach, I never would have picked up Sandman when it was first released based on the recommendation of one of the lcs owners where I grew up, wouldn't have picked up the first issue of Watchmen when Dick Giordano recommended it to me at a store signing, never given Eisner or Bone a chance etc. and some of the books that are my absolute favorites of all time would have remained undiscovered territory. SO I see those lists not as things I should read because other people like them, but things I can explore to see if I like them. And if I find even one new gem in such a list, then the exploration was worth it. -M The problem for me is that most of those lists have such a narrow focus on superhero comics that I don't feel it's likely I'll find much new on there at this stage. That doesn't mean it's impossible, and I've definitely heard about lots of stuff here, for example, that I never would have known to try otherwise. But it does mean that I don't put much value on the word 'classic' as it's usually applied amongst us comics fans.
It can be problematic with respect to other media as well - "classic rock" comes to mind - but in similar lists for, say, films or novels, while you may well disagree with many entries I don't think you'll find the same narrowness or that they're so heavily weighted towards one specific genre, or even just towards genre fiction in general, as I think you do see in comics.
This is kind of the problem for me as well. How are we defining "classic"? If we're using the broad definition of the board, "comics over ten years old," then I haven't read most of them. If we are going with something more qualitative then we need some parameters. Because I've seen some books named, even some that are among my favorite books of all time, that I don't actually consider to be "classic." For example, I absolutely LOVE Ostrander and Mandrake's Spectre series. It's easily in my top ten runs of all time. It, or portions of it, or characters from it, make frequent appearances in my Classic Christmas lists. But I don't consider it to be a classic. It wasn't particularly ground-breaking (though in some ways it tread a bit of new ground for superhero funnybooks). It is so enmeshed in DC history that unless you have a really good background in the DCU you're not going to get a lot out of much of it. It's a great book in my eyes. But it's not a "classic." That said, there are a few books that likely do meet an objective definition of "classic" that I haven't read. Including Love & Rockets, most of Tintin and Asterix, and any manga not named Lone Wolf and Cub. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2019 16:07:03 GMT -5
The problem for me is that most of those lists have such a narrow focus on superhero comics that I don't feel it's likely I'll find much new on there at this stage. That doesn't mean it's impossible, and I've definitely heard about lots of stuff here, for example, that I never would have known to try otherwise. But it does mean that I don't put much value on the word 'classic' as it's usually applied amongst us comics fans.
It can be problematic with respect to other media as well - "classic rock" comes to mind - but in similar lists for, say, films or novels, while you may well disagree with many entries I don't think you'll find the same narrowness or that they're so heavily weighted towards one specific genre, or even just towards genre fiction in general, as I think you do see in comics.
This is kind of the problem for me as well. How are we defining "classic"? If we're using the broad definition of the board, "comics over ten years old," then I haven't read most of them. If we are going with something more qualitative then we need some parameters. Because I've seen some books named, even some that are among my favorite books of all time, that I don't actually consider to be "classic." For example, I absolutely LOVE Ostrander and Mandrake's Spectre series. It's easily in my top ten runs of all time. It, or portions of it, or characters from it, make frequent appearances in my Classic Christmas lists. But I don't consider it to be a classic. It wasn't particularly ground-breaking (though in some ways it tread a bit of new ground for superhero funnybooks). It is so enmeshed in DC history that unless you have a really good background in the DCU you're not going to get a lot out of much of it. It's a great book in my eyes. But it's not a "classic." That said, there are a few books that likely do meet an objective definition of "classic" that I haven't read. Including Love & Rockets, most of Tintin and Asterix, and any manga not named Lone Wolf and Cub. Outside of this forum, I rarely use the term classic as a reference for things that are x number of years old or older or as any kind of measure of time. Too often people conflate age with quality when using classic in that sense. More often I will use the term vintage if I want to refer to something that is x or more years old rather than classic. IT doesn't have the same connotations as a measure of quality that classic does. I too dislike the term classic rock, but I have come to accept it as a label for a genre rather than a time period or level of quality simply because that is how it's modern usage defines it now. -M |
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Post by berkley on Dec 5, 2019 16:57:29 GMT -5
Yeah, agreed. I'll still post a list of my own for the thread but it'll basically be stuff that I think sounds interesting that I wish I'd read at the time or whatever. I'll have no idea if they're classics, by any definition, until I read them, and probably not even afterwards, in some cases.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2019 20:11:13 GMT -5
Most of Lee & Kirby's FF Half of Lee & Ditko's Spider-Man but I have the omnis of both. I haven't read Moore's Swamp Thing apart from an annual, but I did acquire several issues of it recently so I will soon. Wish they'd omni that (at least I don't think they have.) Since they've done Bronze Age Swamp Thing I think it's likely. I believe the first two omnibuses of Moore's Swamp Thing are scheduled for 2020. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 5, 2019 20:26:45 GMT -5
The title of this thread says " Classic" but some of the runs here are definitely not classic, Only in the 10 years old sense. Edit* Oops Slam, made the point already. I don't wanna get sued...  |
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Post by badwolf on Dec 6, 2019 16:33:34 GMT -5
Most of Lee & Kirby's FF Half of Lee & Ditko's Spider-Man but I have the omnis of both. I haven't read Moore's Swamp Thing apart from an annual, but I did acquire several issues of it recently so I will soon. Wish they'd omni that (at least I don't think they have.) Since they've done Bronze Age Swamp Thing I think it's likely. I believe the first two omnibuses of Moore's Swamp Thing are scheduled for 2020. Fantastic! |
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Post by james on Dec 7, 2019 8:14:37 GMT -5
Alan Moore's SWAMPTHING
And I'm ashamed to say any DC comic before Crisis on INFINITE Earths
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Dec 7, 2019 13:04:09 GMT -5
The biggest classic run I haven't read is the Wolfman/Perez Teen Titans. You poor, poor, thing...read it immediately! I tried to read through the TPBs of this recently and I thought it was a slog and a half. I should reread the Judas Contract, 'cause I remember really liking that, but the first couple dozen issues were rough. |
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