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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 23:19:58 GMT -5
Swamp Thing by Alan Moore Sandman by Neil Gaiman Thor by Walt Simonson (only read the first 5-10 (?) issues back in the 1980's)
I am so ashamed.
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Post by Prince Hal on Dec 4, 2019 23:35:22 GMT -5
Monster Society of Evil (I'll get to this someday)
(Almost all of) Sandman
Sandman Mystery Theatre
Spider-Man post-Ditko and Romita
Many others...
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Post by beccabear67 on Dec 4, 2019 23:47:01 GMT -5
These are all things I'd like to have read, and would still like to read.
Fantastic Four #2-20 by Kirby & Lee... although I have read bits early in that run that were reprinted, and have read about them in summary. I read #1 in the old origins book, and Annual #1 when they reprinted it special circa the early '80s.
Doctor Strange by Englehart & Brunner prior to #1. I read some of the #1,2,4 &5 thanks to another early '80s baxter reprint special.
Haven't read any Sandman by Neil Gaiman either, I'd give it a try now though after Confessor's reviews.
Haven't read any Kurt Busiek's Astro City.
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Post by shaxper on Dec 4, 2019 23:47:14 GMT -5
Astro City (towards the top of my to-read list) Sandman Mystery Theatre (also towards the top) Englehart/Rogers Batman (someday soon!) Dreadstar (I have it and will get to it some day) (most of) Lee/Ditko Spider-Man (I have the first three Masterworks and will get to them someday) Captain America. Any of it. The Flash. Any of it. The Spirit Pogo Prince Valiant Most of Walt Simonson Thor. I got bored after roughly ten issues in. I intend to try it again someday. Excalibur (own the whole run. Hope to get to it sooner rather than later) LoSH: The Great Darkness Saga
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Post by tartanphantom on Dec 4, 2019 23:54:53 GMT -5
Neil Gaiman's Sandman Alan Moore's Swamp-Thing Preacher Walking Dead
Outside of just a few things, I've always been very leery of so-called "critically acclaimed" series from the modern era... perhaps because I'm also leery of people who are paid to write reviews for a living.
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Post by shaxper on Dec 4, 2019 23:58:37 GMT -5
Neil Gaiman's Sandman Alan Moore's Swamp-Thing Preacher Walking Dead Outside of just a few things, I've always been very leery of so-called "critically acclaimed" series from the modern era. I've never read Preacher or Walking Dead either and am not convinced I'm missing all that much. Moore's Swamp Thing is great, but I don't consider it an essential read. I loved it and was ensnared the whole time, but I think its impact upon the industry is more responsible for its enduring legacy than the content itself. And it would be difficult to overrate Sandman. Anyone with any patience for a comic book that doesn't contain costumed heroes and action needs to read it.
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Post by Duragizer on Dec 5, 2019 0:01:19 GMT -5
Where to begin? You name it, I (likely) haven't read it.
I've been trying to complete my readthrough of the Kirby/Lee run on Fantastic Four and Romita Sr.'s on Amazing Spider-Man, but I always stall and turn to something else due to their length.
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Post by Randle-El on Dec 5, 2019 0:11:44 GMT -5
Neil Gaiman's Sandman Alan Moore's Swamp-Thing Preacher Walking Dead Outside of just a few things, I've always been very leery of so-called "critically acclaimed" series from the modern era. I've never read Preacher or Walking Dead either and am not convinced I'm missing all that much. Moore's Swamp Thing is great, but I don't consider it an essential read. I loved it and was ensnared the whole time, but I think its impact upon the industry is more responsible for its enduring legacy than the content itself. And it would be difficult to overrate Sandman. Anyone with any patience for a comic book that doesn't contain costumed heroes and action needs to read it.
The Walking Dead is one of those series that I started reading, enjoyed for a bit, but then kept reading only because I wanted to see how it was going to end (and being a creator-owned title, I assumed it would have an actual ending). When there's so much repetition in a series, it makes you curious how he's going to provide a satisfying conclusion. The entire series was pretty much a repetition of:
survive zombie hordes -> find a sanctuary, be safe for a while only to discover that all is not what it seems -> a villain arises to remind you yet again that amoral humans are the real threat in this world -> a huge war ensues, the sanctuary is lost, and the heroes scatter until they find another sanctuary...
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Post by rberman on Dec 5, 2019 0:14:44 GMT -5
I've never read Preacher or Walking Dead either and am not convinced I'm missing all that much. Moore's Swamp Thing is great, but I don't consider it an essential read. I loved it and was ensnared the whole time, but I think its impact upon the industry is more responsible for its enduring legacy than the content itself. And it would be difficult to overrate Sandman. Anyone with any patience for a comic book that doesn't contain costumed heroes and action needs to read it.
The Walking Dead is one of those series that I started reading, enjoyed for a bit, but then kept reading only because I wanted to see how it was going to end (and being a creator-owned title, I assumed it would have an actual ending). When there's so much repetition in a series, it makes you curious how he's going to provide a satisfying conclusion. The entire series was pretty much a repetition of:
survive zombie hordes -> find a sanctuary, be safe for a while only to discover that all is not what it seems -> a villain arises to remind you yet again that amoral humans are the real threat in this world -> a huge war ensues, the sanctuary is lost, and the heroes scatter until they find another sanctuary... The only time that happens in 193 issues is in the war with Woodbury.
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Post by Randle-El on Dec 5, 2019 0:30:29 GMT -5
The Walking Dead is one of those series that I started reading, enjoyed for a bit, but then kept reading only because I wanted to see how it was going to end (and being a creator-owned title, I assumed it would have an actual ending). When there's so much repetition in a series, it makes you curious how he's going to provide a satisfying conclusion. The entire series was pretty much a repetition of:
survive zombie hordes -> find a sanctuary, be safe for a while only to discover that all is not what it seems -> a villain arises to remind you yet again that amoral humans are the real threat in this world -> a huge war ensues, the sanctuary is lost, and the heroes scatter until they find another sanctuary... The only time that happens in 193 issues is in the war with Woodbury.
I disagree. It started with Herschel's farm. There wasn't a human villain per se, but the pattern started with the zombie horde they discovered in the barn, which upset the appearance of a safe sanctuary, with Herschel acting as a sort of villain because he was acting as an antagonist towards Rick (though ultimately he became part of the group). Then the prison, followed by the Governor conflict. Then the move to Alexandria, followed by the war with Negan and the Saviors. They manage to stay in Alexandria and surrounding communities, but they discover Alpha's group and then the Whisperer War followed. I stopped reading when they made contact with the Commonwealth, and there were indications of things being "off" there, with a possible conflict brewing on the horizon.
After the Governor and Negan, I felt like we had enough of the amoral strongman villain. I wanted to see the series provide a new kind of conflict. I was initially intrigued when the Whisperers debuted -- I was sort of partial to the notion that the zombies might be evolving in some fashion, thereby making them a more formidable threat instead of just mindless hordes. It sort of reminded of when I used to play the Resident Evil video games, and discovered the dead zombies would mutate and resurrect into the zombies that could run instead of just stumble about.
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Post by berkley on Dec 5, 2019 0:39:52 GMT -5
Neil Gaiman's Sandman Alan Moore's Swamp-Thing Preacher Walking Dead Outside of just a few things, I've always been very leery of so-called "critically acclaimed" series from the modern era. I've never read Preacher or Walking Dead either and am not convinced I'm missing all that much. Moore's Swamp Thing is great, but I don't consider it an essential read. I loved it and was ensnared the whole time, but I think its impact upon the industry is more responsible for its enduring legacy than the content itself. And it would be difficult to overrate Sandman. Anyone with any patience for a comic book that doesn't contain costumed heroes and action needs to read it.
But apparently not at all difficult to underrate Moore's Swamp Thing!
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 5, 2019 0:51:32 GMT -5
Let's see...
Thor (Simonson)-only read the Beta-Ray Bill beginning. I have it in digital; just haven't read it. Morrison JLA-well, read bits of it; didn't do much for me. Nothing wrong with it; just didn't feel like "my JLA." Animal Man-read the original trade collection, but not the rest Doom Patrol-same thing, for Morrison, apart from a handful of later issues. Morrison and I don't click as much. This was one of them. Dr Strange-stories here and there; never cared much for the character, outside of Defenders Spider-Man-most of it, apart from random issues. Too whiny a character for my tastes, so I have only dabbled in his stories. Avengers (Englehart)-well, not all of it and almost none of the Mantis stuff. Fantastic Four (Lee & Kirby)-bits and pieces; not the entirety Swamp Thing (Alan Moore, Rick Veitch)-first trade only and the Wein/Wrightson stuff. Just not my thing Man-Thing (Gerber)-pretty much same as Swamp Thing. Not a big muck monster guy. Strangers in Paradise- read about the first dozen or so issues; never got back to it A Distant Soil-another I got sidetracked from Wandering Star-same deal, read first ten issues, when collected, didn't read the rest, for some reason Elfquest-looked at the Starblaze editions; but, just couldn't get into it. First Kingdom-had the entire run of comics, purchased from Steranko's Supergraphics, never got past the first couple of issues. The Spirit-big gaps I haven't read. I have all of the Kitchen Sink and Warren stuff, now, so just need to get through it. Plastic Man (Jack Cole)-Have digital, only read a few stories. Terry & the Pirates-had collections of it, never got very far and got rid of the books when moving. Wish I hadn't, but, there it is. Same for early Steve Canyon Hulk-you name it, I probably haven't read it. Never cared much for the character, other than odd issues with interesting guest stars. Tomb of Dracula-have the stuff, just haven't cracked it open. Grimjack-same deal as above Barks Uncle Scrooge-bits and pieces, but have everything.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2019 0:53:49 GMT -5
Love and Rockets (I've read the first collection but not the rest) Strangers in Paradise (read the first 2 pocket omnibi but not the rest) Cerebus (read the first phone book, not the rest) original TMNT from Mirage (read bits and pieces of a friend's back in the mid-80s) American Flagg! (just finished putting the run together this year, haven't gotten to it yet) Grendel (same, just finished putting the run together) Nexus (got about 10-15 issues in and got interrupted, never got back, need to) Kamandi ((have the run, haven't gotten to it yet, but read an issue here or there and know I want to) Grimjack (just finished putting the run together earlier this year, haven't got to it yet) Sandman Mystery Theatre (read and enjoyed the first 3 arcs, but am missing a handful of issues at the end of the run and haven't gone further in it yet) Legion of Super-Heroes (any) Barks' Ducks-only sampled a few Fables-I've read the first 3 trades and want to get to the rest, just never have Runaways-I picked up the first trade as a freebie from Lonestar last month and want to sample it, but it's one of the modern Marvel series that has picked up a large fanbase that I never got around to trying, even though I quite like a lot of other stuff I have read by BKV Persepolis-I have just never gotten to it Lone Wolf and Cub-I have read the first 2 digest sized collections Dark Horse did, but need to get to the rest Akira-I have the first trade, just haven't gotten around to reading it Blake & Mortimer-have only read one volume Jonah Hex-just picked up the Showcase volume I was missing will get to it hopefully soon Unknown Soldier-same as above Golden Age Wonder Woman (have three trades, haven't gotten to them yet) Golden Age Spectre (been looking for an affordable copy of the Archives forever)
Some I started but never finished by choice
Walking Dead-read the first omnibus, loved the Charlie Adlard art, but it all started feeling the same after 8 trades of material so never went further Preacher-I've tried four times now and I just can't get past the third trade. 100 Bullets-haven't gotten past the second trade in three tries
I'm sure there are a few more I am not thinking of off the top of my head.
-M
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Post by rberman on Dec 5, 2019 1:00:07 GMT -5
The list of what I have read is shorter! OK, here's our list of the "Top 100 sagas" so you can see how few I've read. The ones in boldface I have read. The underlines ones I read only in the last couple of years, because of this forum.
1. Watchmen 2. Dark Phoenix 3. Usagi Yojimbo - first compendium 4. Sandman 5. Cerebus- first two compendia 6. Bone 7. Legion of Super-Heroes: The Great Darkness Saga 8. V for Vendetta 9. DC: The New Frontier 10. Fantastic Four: Galactus 11. Avengers: The Kree/Skrull War 12 (tie). The Thanos Saga 12 (tie). Warlock: The Magus Saga 14. Kingdom Come 15. Elfquest 16. Will Eisner's Saga of Understanding 17. Daredevil: The Elektra Saga 18. The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck 19. Swamp Thing (Alan Moore) 20. Astro City 21. Preacher 22. Superman: "Death of Superman," "World without a Superman," "Return of Superman" 23. Green Lantern / Green Arrow: Hard Traveling Heroes - some 24. Daredevil: Born Again 25. Spider-Man: The Master Planner 26. Sandman Mystery Theatre 27. Detective Comics #469-479 (Englehart, Wein) 28. The Spectre #0-62 29. The New Mutants: Demon Bear 30. Batman: Year One 31. Justice League of America: The Unknown Soldier of Victory (#100-102) 32. Doctor Strange by Ditko & Lee 33. New Teen Titans: The Judas Contract Era 34. The Metamorphosis Odyssey 35. The Authority, volume one 36. Judge Dredd: The Cursed Earth Saga 37. Swamp Thing #1-10 (Wein and Wrightson) 38. Planetary #1-12 39. BPRD: "Plague of Frogs," "The Dead," "The Black Flame," "The Universal Machine," and "Garden of Souls" 40. Zot! 41. The Unity Saga (Valiant) 42. Starman (James Robinson) 43. Avengers #115-118 and Defenders #8-11 (1973) 44. Iron Man: Armor Wars 45 (tie). Captain America: The Winter Soldier 45 (tie). Hellboy: The Wolves of St. August 45 (tie). Magik: Storm and Illyana 48. Doctor Strange: The Oath 49 (tie). Astonishing X-Men (Whedon/Cassaday) 49 (tie). Superman: Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow? 51. Conan: Red Nails (Roy Thomas and Barry Windsor-Smith) 52. Thor: The Surtur Saga (Walt Simonson) 53. The Avengers: Mansion Siege 54 (tie). The Incal 54 (tie). The Legion of Superheroes, Volume 4 (5 Years Later, Legionnaires) 54 (tie). The Orc Treasure 54 (tie). Supergirl (Peter Allen David) 54 (tie). Tor 59 (tie). Captain America: The Psychotic 1950's Cap/Bucky issues 59 (tie). Superman: Secret Identity 61. Top Ten 62 (tie). Age of Reptiles: Tribal Warfare 62 (tie). Daredevil #353-365 62 (tie). Tales of Colossus 65. The Fall of Hank Pym (Avengers #211-230) 66. Jack Kirby’s Fourth World 67 (tie). JLA: Year One 67 (tie). Uncle Scrooge: The Andes Saga 69 (tie). Batman: Knightfall 69 (tie). Ronin 71 (tie). Batman: Gotham by Gaslight 71 (tie). Lucky in Love Book 1: A Poor Man's History 73. Grimjack 74 (tie). Aquaman: Death Of A Prince 74 (tie). Lone Sloane 74 (tie). Marvels 74 (tie). Prince Valiant 78 (tie). Captain America #247-255 (Stern and Byrne) 78 (tie). Miracleman 80. Nexus 81 (tie). American Flagg # 1-12 81 (tie). Box Office Poison 81 (tie). Flash Gordon (Raymond) 81 (tie). The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Vol. 1. 81 (tie). Pluto #1-8 (Scratch) 86 (tie). Manhunter 86 (tie). Maus 88 (tie). Bram Stoker's Dracula 88 (tie). Corto Maltese: Ballad of The Salty Sea 88 (tie). Donjon 88 (tie). The Golden Age (Robinson and Smith) 88 (tie). Superman: King of the World 93. Avengers: The Old Order Changeth! (Avengers #16-25) 94. Conan The Barbarian, #1-100 95. Avengers: The Korvac Saga 96 (tie). I Am Legend 96 (tie). Silver Surfer: The Ultimate Cosmic Experience (Lee and Kirby) 96 (tie). Solar: Man of the Atom: "Alpha & Omega" 99. John Sable, Freelance 100 (tie). American Way 100 (tie). Elric of Melniboné 100 (tie). Gardner Fox's "Crisis" stories (Flash and JLA) 100 (tie). Grendel: War Child 100 (tie). JLA: The Nail 100 (tie). Justice (2005) 100 (tie). Valerian and Lareline: The Empire of A Thousand Planets
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Dec 5, 2019 6:25:11 GMT -5
Neil Gaiman's Sandman Alan Moore's Swamp-Thing Preacher Walking Dead Outside of just a few things, I've always been very leery of so-called "critically acclaimed" series from the modern era. I've never read Preacher or Walking Dead either and am not convinced I'm missing all that much. I think Preacher has an interesting place in comics discourse, even cultural discourse. I'm not sure it didn't invent the internet atheist edgelord. I'd actively recommend volume 2 and the last volume for some of the best character work in mainstream comics, but unless somebody trying SO HARD to be offensive - and failing; I've read Crumb, dude, but it's adorable that YOU think you're being shocking - one can safely skip the rest. I dunno... I'm pretty well read in the last 100 years of American comics, and unlike the OP I actively try to read critically beloved series. I put a lot of effort into understanding the history and culture or American comics which means... reading a lot of comics. But there's just so much stuff out there... not even mentioning that I only read English, so I'm missing the majority of good comics in the world by default. And there are thousands of unreprinted Golden Age books, Underground comics, Mini- comics and zines... It's depressing but also amazing. If they stop making comics tomorrow I will be fine for the rest of my life! (Although I really should learn to read French. And Japanese.)
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