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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 7, 2019 13:28:59 GMT -5
You poor, poor, thing...read it immediately!  I tried to read through the TPBs of this recently and I thought it was a slog and a half. I should reread the Judas Contract, 'cause I remember really liking that, but the first couple dozen issues were rough. I liked the early issues when they came out, but I stopped buying the book around issue 12 or so. I tried to re-read it recently and it doesn't hold up well at all. Perez is fine. His work is always fine. But the writing has all the worst parts of Bronze-Age superhero writing turned up to 11. |
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Post by beccabear67 on Dec 7, 2019 14:29:55 GMT -5
I started New Teen Titans with #12 and I think I must've picked a good starting point as it went in to the old Doom Patrol storyline which really fascinated me (and they released a tie-in digest of Doom Patrol reprints at about the same time with a Perez cover).
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Post by MDG on Dec 8, 2019 16:53:18 GMT -5
I tried to read through the TPBs of this recently and I thought it was a slog and a half. I should reread the Judas Contract, 'cause I remember really liking that, but the first couple dozen issues were rough. I liked the early issues when they came out, but I stopped buying the book around issue 12 or so. I tried to re-read it recently and it doesn't hold up well at all. Perez is fine. His work is always fine. But the writing has all the worst parts of Bronze-Age superhero writing turned up to 11. Re-reading something years later is a much different experience than reading month-to-month when things are fresh, new, and exciting. While I'm planning to re-read Moore's Swamp Thing at some point, I don't think I could get into Titans, Clairmont's X-Men (esp post-Byrne), Crisis, etc. again. |
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Post by The Captain on Dec 8, 2019 17:42:40 GMT -5
Bone (maybe leafed through a couple of issues when I worked in a comic book shop)
Kamandi or any of Jack Kirby's "Fourth World" books at DC
Love and Rockets
Sandman Mystery Theater
Wolfman/Perez Teen Titans
No Fantastic Four prior to issue #100 (except for the Dr. Doom and Galactus intro issues as reprints)
Only a handful of Amazing Spider-Man pre-issue #100
Never read a single Superman comic as far as I can remember
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Post by beccabear67 on Dec 8, 2019 18:36:58 GMT -5
I haven't read any New Gods by Jack Kirby either.  I've read lots of things with other people working on the characters though. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 20:54:33 GMT -5
I believe the first two omnibuses of Moore's Swamp Thing are scheduled for 2020. Fantastic! While making up my last-minute X-mas list, I see that they're actually Absolute editions. The first one has been out for a couple months, and it's been recolored, so maybe not such fantastic news. |
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Post by Confessor on Dec 9, 2019 0:33:15 GMT -5
While making up my last-minute X-mas list, I see that they're actually Absolute editions. The first one has been out for a couple months, and it's been recolored, so maybe not such fantastic news. There are review vids on YouTube for the first Absolute Swamp Thing if you search, with people talking about and showing all aspects of the book. It looks like a nice set, but the new computer colouring looks like arse! Your mileage may vary, of course. |
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Post by rberman on Dec 9, 2019 7:34:05 GMT -5
While making up my last-minute X-mas list, I see that they're actually Absolute editions. The first one has been out for a couple months, and it's been recolored, so maybe not such fantastic news. There are review vids on YouTube for the first Absolute Swamp Thing if you search, with people talking about and showing all aspects of the book. It looks like a nice set, but the new computer colouring looks like arse! Your mileage may vary, of course. Here's a video with comparison shots. Multiple reviewers have noticed minor production issues like the hardcovers tending to warp outwards and the pages not being as solidly attached to the binding as they could. The recoloring does make some different choices, but from what I could see, I like the overall effect. |
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Post by badwolf on Dec 9, 2019 11:47:11 GMT -5
As with Sandman, I think the new coloring looks mostly fine on its own, but isn't necessary and I'd rather read it with the "old school" coloring.
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Post by beccabear67 on Dec 9, 2019 14:08:13 GMT -5
I'm warming up to modern coloring; it can be done very well, and of course it can be done badly, or taken to an extreme and walking over some of the artists' work. Alan Moore's Swamp Thing would be the best thing I read of his, however long I stayed with it (it got uglier and darker later perhaps). It was at least sometimes sensitizing rather than nihilistic or deconstructive. There's play as opposed to the bitter polemic or heavy borrowing from Philip K. Dick of later works (I haven't read any Marvelman but possibly one table freebie Eclipse gave out at the time). Earlier ('70s) he would've fit well into the underground comics scene away from any commercial company/corporation entanglements, or in sf/f text where he could've only been a late-comer following in the giants of the '40s-'50s-'60s footsteps (though George R.R. Martin did very well in the '70s magazines), but how many would know the name Alan Moore then?
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Post by berkley on Dec 10, 2019 1:18:54 GMT -5
If anything, I'm becoming even more averse to the modern re-colouring of old comics than I have been. If I could afford it, I'd buy the entire Alan Moore run on Swamp Thing in back issues and get rid of my collected editions. And they aren't even that bad, relatively - compared to the Marvel Masterworks, for example, which are some of the worst, to my taste.
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I've read lots of things with other people working on the characters though.
