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Post by brutalis on Aug 25, 2020 6:55:03 GMT -5
This which one pits American against Japanese, monster that is. King Kong or Godzilla? Which one? This is NOT about who would win in a fight (always gonna be a tie anyways) but which of the big guys you like/love more.
I found both on television around the same time and as they utilized different ways of portraying the monsters it didn't matter. I was instantly hooked on giant sized weapons of mass destruction. A KING sized gorilla stomping dinosaur butt and falling in love and a humongous fire breathing lizard with a night on the town in Tokyo? What's not to love when your a youngter and destructive yourself?
While Kong is the more creative story and special effects driven with O'Brien's wild stop motion animation, it is Godzilla, the self titled King of the Monsters for the TKO for me. Kong was slow and limited in capabilities while 'Zilla was a rubber suited city stomping unstoppable menace. Poor Kong dies and he never comes back while Godzilla takes a licking and keeps on coming back kicking and smashing, angrily giving payback in a grand scale. Kong climbs building's and 'Zilla crushes them to rubble. Kong kills dinosaurs while Godzilla tag teams with his other Kaiju pals in fatal winner take all battles. Kong remained in black and white for years until a remake and Godzilla went from b/w into glorious color. You can quite readily see how Godzilla has more to capture a young boy or girls attention.
And come on, Atomic Breath, tail smashing devastation and drop kicking giant iguana is so much cooler to root for than a giant banana munching monkey.
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Post by foxley on Aug 25, 2020 7:31:28 GMT -5
King Kong. It is a poignant tale of a creature uprooted from its, taken to world it never made, and then forced into the role of monster. If you have have any kind of heart, you feel for Kong. I have never felt any kind of sympathy for Godzilla. King Kong is a story with emotion at heart, not just random destruction.
Although, if you want random destruction, don't forget all of the other prehistoric horrors lurking on Skull Island.
But remember: "It wasn't the airplanes. It was Beauty killed the Beast." Words no one would ever speak over the body of Godzilla.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2020 7:37:14 GMT -5
Godzilla, for the staying power.
Yes, Kong predates Godzilla and has staying power, too. But Godzilla is more ubiquitous.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Aug 25, 2020 8:35:30 GMT -5
I agree with foxley that King Kong is indeed a story with much more emotion at heart. But outside of the original film and Peter Jackson's version (albeit very long winded) nothing else Kong has really appealed to me. I'll admit I liked Skull Island to a degree, but as in the same degree I like Godzilla; big monsters kicking each other's a$$e$. So I would vote for Godzilla overall, as most if not all of his movies I enjoy be it because they are actually good or they are nostalgia from my youth.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2020 8:38:06 GMT -5
As somone who hasn't seen a lot of either and pretty much agrees with everything brutalis said,I still prefer Kong.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2020 9:11:44 GMT -5
Just remember, though, King Kong became a wrestling name, King Kong Bundy being a notable example:  Are there any wrestlers called Godzilla?! |
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Post by brutalis on Aug 25, 2020 11:09:12 GMT -5
Just remember, though, King Kong became a wrestling name, King Kong Bundy being a notable example: Are there any wrestlers called Godzilla?! Ricky the Dragon Steamboat comes closest when WWE(F then) had him come out in his outfit complete with tail and doing fire breathing and carrying around a real baby 'Zilla 😊 |
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Post by Confessor on Aug 25, 2020 11:51:54 GMT -5
King King for most of the same reasons that foxley outlines above.
I'm only really interested in the original 1933 film, which I've seen umpteen times, and which still holds up well in 2020 (I last saw it earlier this year). Although the special effects might look dated today, that doesn't change that fact that the film tells a story crammed with action, adventure, romance, and horror which is just a gripping, mysterious, and emotional today as it was the day it was released. The direction, cinematographey, score, and pacing is masterful, and Fay Wray's performance as the beauty to Kong's beast is one of the iconic performances in Hollywood history.
King Kong isn't just another monster flick: it's a taughtly constructed examination of what happens when modern society collides with the untamed wild, as well as a heartfelt masterclass of romance, suspense and pathos. Simply put, it's a classic of the Golden Age of Hollywood.
Godzilla is just a big lizard smashing buildings up. **Yawn**
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2020 11:56:38 GMT -5
King King for most of the same reasons that foxley outlines above. I'm only really interested in the original 1933 film, which I've seen umpteen times, but which still holds up well in 2020 (I last saw it earlier this year). Although the special effects might look dated today, that doesn't change that fact that the film tells a story crammed with action, adventure, romance, and horror that is just a gripping, mysterious, and emotional today as it was the day it was released. The direction, cinematographey, score, and pacing is masterful, and Fay Wray's performance as the beauty to Kong's beast is one of the most iconic performances in Hollywood history. King Kong isn't just another monster flick: it's a taughtly constructed examination of the untamed wild vs. modern society and a heartfelt masterclass of romance and pathos. Godzilla is just a big lizard smashing buildings. **Yawn** The first black and white film I saw as a kid was King Kong. I think BBC2 showed it one weekend in either the late 80s or 90s. Ah, the days when BBC would show classic films. I’d seen some still photos, possibly in a magazine such as Starlog. It is a classic film on every level. I will say, though, Kong doesn’t really look like a gorilla in the 1933 version. Someone told me that the time spent for the crew to sail to Skull Island in Peter Jackson’s bloated King Kong is around the same amount of time as the running time for the 1933 original! |
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Post by berkley on Aug 25, 2020 12:38:26 GMT -5
As movies the original King Kong wins hands down as an important landmark in film history in general, not just in the sub-genre of monster movies. But as for the characters themselves as famous monsters and film icons there's probably less to choose between them.
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Post by brutalis on Aug 25, 2020 13:31:01 GMT -5
Much as I enjoy the original Kong, it isn't something I can watch repeatedly or very often. Godzilla movies on the other hand all can be watched time and again as they carry more "entertainment" in action, fun, silliness, etc. Anytime flipping channels and finding Godzilla movies playing I can more often than not just remain there to watch and enjoy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2020 13:34:49 GMT -5
I learnt something new today (presuming the information is accurate). For years, magazines (and various folk) told me that King Kong vs. Godzilla featured two different endings, one with a Kong victory, another with a Godzilla victory. I treated such ‘anecdotal evidence’ as gospel. But various links, via Wikipedia, state that this is false! Oh, and I bought this on DVD a while back, no idea what could have inspired it:  |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Aug 25, 2020 13:37:41 GMT -5
King Kong is a brilliant movie, and one that I rewatch regularly. It's dramatic, it's exotic, and it has that wonderfully innocent take on "lost places" teeming with unknown monsters that I love about pulp literature. However, as far as creatures go, I have little affection for Kong while I love Godzilla. My kids grew up playing with cut-out Godzilla monsters I made out of cardboard, and we watched the original series over and over.
The big G is just awesome with his radioactive breath and his awesome signature roar. I actually cheered when I first saw this teaser!
Besides, despite all the cheesy and sometimes unbearably bad films, the franchise counts at least one excellent film (the first one).
Go, go Godzilla!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2020 16:24:08 GMT -5
Oh, and I bought this on DVD a while back, no idea what could have inspired it I mean it's in color AND SpectaMation. I'd be more curious of your motives had you passed on it. |
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Post by brutalis on Aug 31, 2020 11:04:42 GMT -5
If time travel were possible Which One would you choose? Travelling into the past or into the future?
While the thrill of possibly seeing movie science fiction concepts brought to life with robots, giant space ships travelling the cosmos and that dagnabbit promise of a real flying car or at the least personal jet packs, my love of things past has my vote for seeing historical moments.
Imagine viewing the people or moments of great importance for yourself? Not the dry atypical history is written by the winner or attempts to speculate over outcomes or reasoning as to the "why and what for" of instances. Given the concept we CANNOT change the past but only view it, can you NOT want to see how it truly was? Viewing historic people, instances and times we can only know today through reading or partial re-enactments? Sign me up for that vacation trip please...
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