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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 6, 2020 15:04:37 GMT -5
For picking The Who, or for my question using Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd? For Zeppelin, Floyd and The Who. Your answer is fine. Everyone likes what they like. But I'd almost rather have a knitting needle stuck in my ear than have to listen to Zeppelin or Floyd.
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Post by The Captain on Apr 6, 2020 15:07:30 GMT -5
For picking The Who, or for my question using Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd? For Zeppelin, Floyd and The Who. Your answer is fine. Everyone likes what they like. But I'd almost rather have a knitting needle stuck in my ear than have to listen to Zeppelin or Floyd. I agree with you for the most part, and my answer wouldn't change with the inclusion of the two different bands. I can tolerate two Zeppelin songs and maybe four Pink Floyd songs, but that's it.
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Post by Crimebuster on Apr 6, 2020 15:12:14 GMT -5
Beatles.
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Post by brutalis on Apr 6, 2020 15:18:14 GMT -5
For Slam_Bradley and The Captain, I was never a big Zeppelin or Floyd fan growing up. As an adult I can enjoy a few of their songs but these days I can just as readily turn the radio station knob in the car away to another station. I do like me some Honeydrippers though...
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Post by impulse on Apr 6, 2020 15:34:35 GMT -5
See, I used to really like Zeppelin. They were very good at what they did, and at the time, it was pretty powerful. I just can't take it anymore. It would be like having the exact same meal for every meal for twenty years. Even if it's a good meal and you like it, ugh, there is a point where you'd almost rather starve than shovel it down one more time.
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Post by berkley on Apr 6, 2020 15:37:19 GMT -5
Beatles vs Stones (the traditional question), I'd go with the Beatles, but when I start to think about it, it's closer than I thought.
The Who, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd: I'll take the Who, but I like all three. A lot.
In the early 70s, you'd often see Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, and Black Sabbath named as the three top heavy metal acts and debates as to which should wear the crown.. Nowadays, I imagine that Sabbath would be the only ones most listeners would still consider heavy metal. When Queen first hit the scene they were talked about as young new upstarts challenging for the heavy metal crown, until with their 3rd album they moved into the eclectic pop sound sound that made them more broadly popular.
I also remember seeing Led Zeppelin and the 70s Stones debated as to which was the top concert draw at the time.
Come to think of it, The Who vs the Kinks was the most common debate concerning those two bands.
I also recall for a brief time Bowie vs Alice Cooper discussed as the top "decadent rock" act.
And Bowie vs Roxy Music as the top, I dunno, glitter/glam whatever it's called. T. Rex as well.
Did these kinds of discussions till happen after the 70s? I remember some people talking about REM and U2 as the top 2 pop acts of the 80s, but can't recall much heated debate over who was number 1.
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Post by Batflunkie on Apr 6, 2020 15:50:07 GMT -5
See, I used to really like Zeppelin. They were very good at what they did, and at the time, it was pretty powerful. I just can't take it anymore. It would be like having the exact same meal for every meal for twenty years. Even if it's a good meal and you like it, ugh, there is a point where you'd almost rather starve than shovel it down one more time. All I've ever heard from them on my local classic rock was "Immigrant Song" and maybe "Stairway To Heaven". I feel the same way you do towards Zeppelin but against The Who and The Eagles. They would play Hotel California all the damn time on my local soft rock (which is really a stretch) affiliate and while I like the song, it kind of soured my opinion on it much in the same way "Come Out And Play" by the Offspring and "Enter The Sandman" by Metallica did
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 6, 2020 15:55:38 GMT -5
Hotel California is an abomination that must be purged in fire at every opportunity.
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Post by impulse on Apr 6, 2020 16:03:15 GMT -5
In the early 70s, you'd often see Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, and Black Sabbath named as the three top heavy metal acts and debates as to which should wear the crown.. Nowadays, I imagine that Sabbath would be the only ones most listeners would still consider heavy metal. When Queen first hit the scene they were talked about as young new upstarts challenging for the heavy metal crown, until with their 3rd album they moved into the eclectic pop sound sound that made them more broadly popular. That's interesting because Queen was still really heavy at times on their third (and my personal favorite of theirs) album. It was VERY diverse, though, so maybe that's it, but they arguably co-invented thrash metal on that album along with various peers in spots in the 60s and 70s.
Queen's version of Stone Cold Crazy still hits harder than Metallica's cover IMO. Metallica got to crank the distortion on modern amps. Brian May had to freakin' rip those sounds out of this guitar and amp at the time.
See, I used to really like Zeppelin. They were very good at what they did, and at the time, it was pretty powerful. I just can't take it anymore. It would be like having the exact same meal for every meal for twenty years. Even if it's a good meal and you like it, ugh, there is a point where you'd almost rather starve than shovel it down one more time. All I've ever heard from them on my local classic rock was "Immigrant Song" and maybe "Stairway To Heaven". I feel the same way you do towards Zeppelin but against The Who and The Eagles. They would play Hotel California all the damn time on my local soft rock (which is really a stretch) affiliate and while I like the song, it kind of soured my opinion on it much in the same way "Come Out And Play" by the Offspring and "Enter The Sandman" by Metallica did
Well, if you are into the time period at all, it is definitely worth diving into. They really were good at super juiced up blues/hard-rocking stompers. Their first album is one of my all-time favorite "classic rock" albums, and I can't recommend their BBC Sessions Live compilation enough. One of the few live recordings where they managed to accurately capture the energy of the band. Some of the recordings are hit and miss because it's live, of course, and especially the expanded version on Spotify, but some of those early recordings are just blasting with energy.
God, I've just heard it 246,804 times too many.
But I will ALWAYS defend both Come Out and Play and Enter Sandman! The latter especially is the PERFECT archetypical pop-metal song. It is perfectly executed and the perfect example of what it is, even though I've also heard it 647,343 times...
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Post by impulse on Apr 6, 2020 16:03:48 GMT -5
Hotel California is an abomination that must be purged in fire at every opportunity. The more I read from you, the more I respect you.
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Post by beccabear67 on Apr 6, 2020 16:13:42 GMT -5
I'm happy for any opportunity to show Jagger in a daft hat, but I like to say I'm a music lover not a hater. Just had someone keep going on about The Monkees and Paul Revere & the Raiders elsewhere... it's always someone/thing that becomes the epitome of what music one doesn't like even existing or being at all popular and influential (want to know mine?), but there are worse than ' on a dark desert highway, cool wind in my hair'. Oh, and The Who had three singles out in 1965. Beatles (not counting the German with Tony Sheridan records) was 1962, and the Stones 1963. So to me Who is closer to them than Led Zeppelin (1969), and in the middle would be Pink Floyd (1967). I just try and encourage people who like Led Zeppelin to investigate Howling Wolf, Davey Graham, Spirit and Fairport Convention. Not that Page didn't thieve off others, but Jake Holmes is more an acquired taste (good guitarist he had though, especially on the original Dazed & Confused from 1967, almost two years before Zeppelin came into existence). I'm still keeping my LP of LZ IV ('cause... Sandy Denny on it).People who like the Eagles should check out more Gene Clark, Doug Dillard, The Dillards (late '60s with Herb Pedersen), Clarence White, The Flying Burrito Brothers, Poco, Rick Nelson and even Everly Brothers I would say... but there might still be a cocaine cowboy or two on some of those records, they were hard to not bump into at one time it seems.
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Post by Batflunkie on Apr 6, 2020 16:23:02 GMT -5
But I will ALWAYS defend both Come Out and Play and Enter Sandman! The latter especially is the PERFECT archetypical pop-metal song. It is perfectly executed and the perfect example of what it is, even though I've also heard it 647,343 times...
They'd play "Come Out And Play" for every late 90's movie trailer (or at least Monkey Bone from what I can rightly recall) almost exactly like they did in the early 90's with "Life In A Northern Town" by Dream Academy. It was also Raven's ECW Theme and I personally just found it annoying, much in the same way "Enter Sandman" was for Sandman. And I would just hear it all the damn time on our local Metal station all the time too, so that didn't help much either
"Angry Again" by Megadeth or "Big Gun" by AC/DC would have probably been better for either of them, but I'm too much of a fan of Last Action Hero for my own good
I do really, REALLY like Offspring however. Even though most of their songs sound like Ace Of Base where they're almost intentionally plagiarizing themselves
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Post by Rob Allen on Apr 6, 2020 16:29:45 GMT -5
For the original question, it has to be the Beatles. I'm just old enough to remember Beatlemania. There's been nothing like that since. My brother and I memorized most if not all of the Beatles' recordings.
For the followup question, I really like Pink Floyd. Dark Side of the Moon has been on the album sales chart for 40+ years for good reason. And that's not the only good thing they did - "Comfortably Numb" has to be one of the saddest songs I know.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2020 21:58:55 GMT -5
Rolling Stones, no contest. I don't get The Beatles worship. Their songs are really nice, but that's it. They don't have anything that makes me feel like a good Stones song does. My teenage years were in the '80s, and The Stones, Beatles and The Who were old fuddy-duddy music to me. I learned to greatly appreciate the Stones, but I can do without the other two. I only just realized a couple years ago why they spell Beatles the way they do. Am I alone in being this slow? For the original question, it has to be the Beatles. I'm just old enough to remember Beatlemania. There's been nothing like that since. My brother and I memorized most if not all of the Beatles' recordings. For the followup question, I really like Pink Floyd. Dark Side of the Moon has been on the album sales chart for 40+ years for good reason. And that's not the only good thing they did - "Comfortably Numb" has to be one of the saddest songs I know. So much of Pink Floyd's material has a melancholy aspect that cuts to the bone. Floyd does melancholy like Slayer does evil. Incidentally, Motorhead has made Pink Floyd redundant. PF spent the entire decade of the '70s trying to figure out life, but Motorhead did it in one song - March Or Die.
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Post by impulse on Apr 7, 2020 8:26:33 GMT -5
Rolling Stones, no contest. I don't get The Beatles worship. Their songs are really nice, but that's it. They don't have anything that makes me feel like a good Stones song does. My teenage years were in the '80s, and The Stones, Beatles and The Who were old fuddy-duddy music to me. I learned to greatly appreciate the Stones, but I can do without the other two. I didn't live through it, so I can't explain from that perspective, but if you look at what was recorded and release up to 1964 and then look at what The Beatles came out with (and their peers of course) between 64-70 it is insane how much music changes in that time. Also, it's not just about their music, but what they pulled off in the studio. The pioneered some insane recording and mixing techniques that paved the way for basically everything after. They also wrote great melodies and harmonies. Yeah, it feels pretty plain in 2020 taken on its own, but they had a huge hand changing the musical landscape forever. Plus, Strawberry Fields I am pretty sure is what drugs sound like, so that is kind of neat.
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