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Post by beccabear67 on Apr 28, 2020 12:59:12 GMT -5
It's funny, buying the comics off the rack at the time I would've said Avengers #194 was the 'key' issue because it started a run by George Perez. I had started buying from #192 after having gotten #189 swapping at school and #194 was pretty exciting, up there with X-Men #131 in terms of hooking me big time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2020 15:13:51 GMT -5
Prices eventually dropped back down, once speculators had been cleaned out.
Except there's no speculator anti-virus. They're never really cleaned out. They lurk in the ramparts waiting for the next big thing. Some thought it would be Nightwing #70 and they are licking their wounds.
Not that I haven't indulged. I made a small fortune with Batman Damned #1 (I had 65 copies at one point).
Books like Avengers 195 & 196 I'd gladly flip if I can make some money on them. 80s Avengers wasn't really my thing, and the cash would go in my comic-book kitty for books that are.
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 28, 2020 15:35:26 GMT -5
Prices eventually dropped back down, once speculators had been cleaned out.
Except there's no speculator anti-virus. They're never really cleaned out. They lurk in the ramparts waiting for the next big thing. Some thought it would be Nightwing #70 and they are licking their wounds.
Not that I haven't indulged. I made a small fortune with Batman Damned #1 (I had 65 copies at one point).
Books like Avengers 195 & 196 I'd gladly flip if I can make some money on them. 80s Avengers wasn't really my thing, and the cash would go in my comic-book kitty for books that are.
There are speculators, yes; but, not at the levels in the mid-90s. It was massive. It dovetailed with speculators in the trading card market and fell apart together.
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Post by Ozymandias on Apr 28, 2020 16:52:37 GMT -5
It's funny, buying the comics off the rack at the time I would've said Avengers #194 was the 'key' issue because it started a run by George Perez. I had started buying from #192 after having gotten #189 swapping at school and #194 was pretty exciting, up there with X-Men #131 in terms of hooking me big time. #194 is my favorite issue in the final stretch of Perez's run. Probably of his whole run, although the issues he drew for Shooter, in the Korvac Saga, were on par.
Out of all the issues written by Michelinie, this one would be the one I'd pick. Yes, he did even better ones with Byrne, but is difficult to say how much of the plot was him and not John, or Stern (who was editor until Byrne left), not to mention those plots by Gruenwald and Grant. Issue 200 is also plotted by someone else, so the "Taskmaster Saga" would be his best claim to glory (IMO). More than his Iron Man work, more than his McFarlane collaboration in ASM. And that storyline started with an issue totally devoid of fights; that's probably why I liked it so much, it focused in the character dynamics that had been in play with previous writers.
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Post by Confessor on Apr 28, 2020 19:57:04 GMT -5
What do old pulp magazines sell for now? I remember taking a look at the prices of old pulp sci-fi magazines on eBay a year or two ago, and being shocked to discover that they were really very cheap. Even pretty old mags from the years we might call the Golden Age, if we were talking about comics, were way cheaper than comics of the same vintage. I took this to be an indication that comparatively few people are still actively collecting pulps.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 28, 2020 20:09:28 GMT -5
What do old pulp magazines sell for now? I remember taking a look at the prices of old pulp sci-fi magazines on eBay a year or two ago, and being shocked to discover that they were really very cheap. Even pretty old mags from the years we might call the Golden Age, if we were talking about comics, were way cheaper than comics of the same vintage. I took this to be an indication that comparatively few people are still actively collecting pulps. The exception are pulps with big name characters in them. Conan stories are pretty expensive as I recall. But far cheaper than comics.
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Post by berkley on Apr 28, 2020 21:01:07 GMT -5
I've bought a small number of old SF pulps the last few years - probably only 5 or 6 issues all told - but might try to get into more of that kind of thing at some point, as long as the prices remain relatively affordable. Probably in the main for some stories or authors I'm curious about but that are hard to find in anthologies or what have you.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2020 21:18:43 GMT -5
What do old pulp magazines sell for now? I remember taking a look at the prices of old pulp sci-fi magazines on eBay a year or two ago, and being shocked to discover that they were really very cheap. Even pretty old mags from the years we might call the Golden Age, if we were talking about comics, were way cheaper than comics of the same vintage. I took this to be an indication that comparatively few people are still actively collecting pulps. One of our local shop owners here in the Miami Valley published one of the standard guides to pulps-the owner is one of the foremost dealers of pulps in the country still, and one of the reasons Pulpfest, the biggest pulp oriented convention was held in Columbos OH for a number of years (I think it's in Pittsburgh now). While it has the same issues as Oversteet with listed prices reflecting actual going rates, it's still a wellspring of info on pulps, pricing and tips to collecting them. It's called the Bookery Guide to Pulps... and in it's second revised edition. Steranko did the intro to this edition. Prices can vary from title to title. Weird Tales issues run pretty high, as do a lot of the Argosy issues. Others are more affordable. Pulps tend to degrade quickly, so condition is a big factor, as high grade copies are far rarer based on the materials used in printing. -M PS this is the earlier edition... -M
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Post by Confessor on Apr 28, 2020 22:44:09 GMT -5
On a somewhat related matter, I recall looking on eBay for original copies of The Strand magazine from the late 19th and early 20th century which featured the original publication of various Sherlock Holmes stories and they were really expensive. Even when they were in pretty crappy shape.
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Post by The Captain on Apr 29, 2020 7:52:34 GMT -5
@mrp - yup, Pulpfest is in the Greater Pittsburgh area now, although not downtown. It is in Cranberry Township, which is about the same distance from Pittsburgh as Troy is from Dayton.
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Post by String on Apr 29, 2020 17:58:24 GMT -5
There was a bump a few years ago (just a little before I re-bought a copy of each) because of the new Ant-Man appearances, though Marvel Premiere #47 & 48 and Avengers #181 got more of a bump. There was the first movie that was popular based sort of on the Scott Lang second Ant-Man, and then news of the second movie coming kept them 'hot' I suppose. Taskmaster has bumped #196 a bit further obviously. A Lot of Ms. Marvel comics took off when that Captain Marvel movie was announced, luckily I'd just completed the run (even the Mystique appearances)! I did pay a little extra I think for Black Panther #14 & 15 as the movie was announced by then, can't always hit things just right I guess. I think it's a bit of a stretch though to think the movies really increase demand or interest, but if enough people think they do... Is that Spider-Verse movie when Peter Porker comics all went up? I thought it might be fun to collect them but I was too late on that title... didn't want to pay the prices I saw for any issues. Or it could've been that they were harder to find in decent condition anyway as a lot of them were bought originally by little kids? Interesting that you should mention Ant-Man, here's why: Back issues price spike are one way to judge what's 'hot' via Marvel films but there's also seeing what Marvel currently publishes in regard to the films too. Last month, they released Taskmaster: Anything You Can Do...TPB which collects his early appearances throughout a number of Marvel titles from the 80s to the 90s. I bought it simply because I like the villain and hadn't read some of those adventures. What I found interesting though is that his first four appearances were all written by Michelenie, Avengers #195-196, #223 and Marvel Team-up #103. All four appearances also feature Scott Lang, Ant-Man. If Scott had an early antagonist in his super-heroing career, it would certainly seem to be Taskmaster. I quite enjoyed how Michelenie handled Ant-Man throughout here (Scott even makes appearances in his Iron Man run which, till now, was the full extent of my reading of him). So much so, I considered checking into Scott's first appearances in Marvel Premiere which is where your comments come into play. Recent checks into eBay auctions and sales for those two issues seem to start typically around $30 and go upward into the triple digits (especially if the issues are slabbed). Scott's prominence within the MCU may help keep those resale prices up.
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Post by Ozymandias on Apr 30, 2020 1:38:09 GMT -5
Here's a good example of how crazy things are. This copy (accurately graded at 4.5) was sold for $60. Seven bidders took part, which is higher than usual, but are they representative of an auction, for an item in such a low grade, going for that price?:
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Post by beccabear67 on Apr 30, 2020 15:29:49 GMT -5
That's looks below the lowest condition I would accept. I guess I'm lucky to have gotten around a FN+/VF- for $30 on a newsstand edition, I even had a deal for one fall through before that/or it actually did get lost. It could be others like me want the newsstand editions of '70s-early '80s comics as the ones they remember and are willing to pay more for that. I just can't shake the feeling that something from that time with the diamond in the top left corner and a blank or line through the UPC code box is not a reprint (same for DC with the Whitman logo). I want the 'real' edition exactly like I remember it. It wasn't until Dazzler #1/Star Lord Special/Marvel Fanfare/Ka-Zar/Micronauts/Moon Knight where there was no newsstand edition I eventually had to accept those @#$%^! ooglah diamond corners (and no, I don't like Spider-Man in the box at the bottom on everything, especially not an issue of Star Wars, or I'd imagine Conan or The 'Nam for people who bought them). I was much happier with the 'M' shape.
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Post by badwolf on May 1, 2020 11:17:03 GMT -5
I used to have a copy in approximately that condition but I replaced it with a NM copy (when it was cheap).
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Post by Ozymandias on May 3, 2020 9:00:09 GMT -5
If you want a good example of the craziness surrounding this duo, this listing would be the best one. It's not so much the price, as the pure speculative nature of it:
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