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Post by beccabear67 on May 3, 2020 13:31:12 GMT -5
I did that way back in the early '80s one time with 12 New Teen Titans #1s (they were listed at $12 and I got them at $8 each this way). Actually had 13 as I'd had one from before (I probably had paid the $12, I was pretty new). I traded them off over time for things I didn't have and was right back to one copy, and now no copy. It didn't turn me into a serious hard-edged capitalist, but I did buy multiples of Miller mini-series Wolverine #1 and found out everyone else and the one big shop had that one, so I felt stuck with them and stopped there.  |
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Post by Icctrombone on May 3, 2020 18:46:53 GMT -5
I did that way back in the early '80s one time with 12 New Teen Titans #1s (they were listed at $12 and I got them at $8 each this way). Actually had 13 as I'd had one from before (I probably had paid the $12, I was pretty new). I traded them off over time for things I didn't have and was right back to one copy, and now no copy. It didn't turn me into a serious hard-edged capitalist, but I did buy multiples of Miller mini-series Wolverine #1 and found out everyone else and the one big shop had that one, so I felt stuck with them and stopped there. Wolverine #1 is not a bad book to have for future trading. |
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Post by Icctrombone on May 3, 2020 18:49:36 GMT -5
I was following the result of an Ebay auction for New Teen Titans # 42, 43, 44. The three issues were parts of the Judas contract and 44 was the first appearance of Dick Grayson as Nightwing. That Nightwing issue was more pricey a few years ago, and I was surprised tat the three books went for only 44.
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Post by Ozymandias on May 4, 2020 6:33:57 GMT -5
I did that way back in the early '80s one time with 12 New Teen Titans #1s (they were listed at $12 and I got them at $8 each this way). Actually had 13 as I'd had one from before (I probably had paid the $12, I was pretty new). I traded them off over time for things I didn't have and was right back to one copy, and now no copy. It didn't turn me into a serious hard-edged capitalist, but I did buy multiples of Miller mini-series Wolverine #1 and found out everyone else and the one big shop had that one, so I felt stuck with them and stopped there. Now that you mention the 80's and Miller's Wolverine... I was selling my Spanish collection back then, and everyone was asking about that mini, so when I found a shop that had some copies (6 or so) I bought them and sold them quickly at a good markup. We're all guilty it seems. I was following the result of an Ebay auction for New Teen Titans # 42, 43, 44. The three issues were parts of the Judas contract and 44 was the first appearance of Dick Grayson as Nightwing. That Nightwing issue was more pricey a few years ago, and I was surprised tat the three books went for only 44. Were they high grade? LS offers $51.84 in credit for #44 alone, a NM- copy. |
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Post by Ozymandias on May 19, 2020 14:20:11 GMT -5
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Post by Pat T on May 24, 2020 13:48:18 GMT -5
If you want a good example of the craziness surrounding this duo, this listing would be the best one. It's not so much the price, as the pure speculative nature of it:  I find listings like this all over ebay, for all kinds of different items. This must be a way to somehow scam people, though I don't know who would actually fall for something like this. Apparently it's effective enough for sellers to keep doing it. It seems like ebay would delete crazy auctions like this one, but maybe they don't know about them unless somebody reports them. |
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Post by berkley on May 24, 2020 17:29:28 GMT -5
On a somewhat related matter, I recall looking on eBay for original copies of The Strand magazine from the late 19th and early 20th century which featured the original publication of various Sherlock Holmes stories and they were really expensive. Even when they were in pretty crappy shape. II don't feel tempted to look for original copies of the magazine but I do like the reprints in book form with the text in columns and the original Paget illustrations and everything. They look "right" to me. |
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Post by Confessor on May 24, 2020 17:55:44 GMT -5
On a somewhat related matter, I recall looking on eBay for original copies of The Strand magazine from the late 19th and early 20th century which featured the original publication of various Sherlock Holmes stories and they were really expensive. Even when they were in pretty crappy shape. II don't feel tempted to look for original copies of the magazine but I do like the reprints in book form with the text in columns and the original Paget illustrations and everything. They look "right" to me. Agreed. Facsimile reproductions of the dual-column text layout of The Strand, with the Paget illustrations included, is the only way to go when you're reading Sherlock Holmes. |
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Post by earl on May 24, 2020 18:29:10 GMT -5
Got to figure with the new deal on movies, you perhaps would see Taskmaster show up in a Deadpool movie considering he was a semi-regular character in that series.
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Post by Batflunkie on May 24, 2020 18:38:35 GMT -5
I think it's a bit of a stretch though to think the movies really increase demand or interest, but if enough people think they do... The first appearance of John Walker in Cap #323 is up to $229 on the high end and $99 on the low end according to mycomicshop. I really don't understand artificial rarity just because a certain character is in a book, nor do I intend to. At some point you'd hope that all this nonsense will bottom out and bite all these people square where the sun don't shine, but that probably isn't going to happen any time soon
Is that Spider-Verse movie when Peter Porker comics all went up? I thought it might be fun to collect them but I was too late on that title... didn't want to pay the prices I saw for any issues. Or it could've been that they were harder to find in decent condition anyway as a lot of them were bought originally by little kids? You're not missing out on much, it's basically just a run of the mill funny animal book (not that I profess to being any sort of expert on the genre) with lame jokes and moderate superheroics, which is what I imagine Hoppy The Marvel Bunny and Captain Carrot must have been like (haven't really had an interest in reading either I'm afraid). It'd probably be interesting for a Spidey fan to check out as a curiosity, but not much else |
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Post by earl on May 24, 2020 18:41:52 GMT -5
Wow, I did not know they were bringing in US Agent into the movies. Never would have thought that would have happened and he's being played by Kurt Russell's son...weird.
They should use the same characterization as Kurt's character in "Big Trouble in Little China".
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Post by Batflunkie on May 24, 2020 18:47:35 GMT -5
Wow, I did not know they were bringing in US Agent into the movies. Never would have thought that would have happened and he's being played by Kurt Russell's son...weird Not a movie, but the Disney + show "Falcon And The Winter Soldier" |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2020 20:56:58 GMT -5
I really don't understand artificial rarity just because a certain character is in a book, nor do I intend to. At some point you'd hope that all this nonsense will bottom out and bite all these people square where the sun don't shine, but that probably isn't going to happen any time soon It's not about scarcity/rarity. It never has been. There can be only one of something, and it can have zero value as a collectible. There are tons of Golden Age books that are scarce that have little value. Because no one wants them. It's about demand. And when movies or tv shows (or new comic series or revivals of characters in comics to a lesser degree) shine a spotlight on characters that people haven't paid attention to before (or for a long time), then it increases demand for the books. If people want something, they will pay for it, so prices increase. Books wind up in dollar bins because there is not enough demand for them to make it worth the time and labor to assess, grade, price and display for sale individually. All kinds of books from all eras will fall into the cracks of dollar bins. Some sit in storage forever not even out for sale. Time passes, new developments occur, and if something happens to spotlight a character those book become desirable. It becomes worth the time and effort to dig them out, assess/grade/price them because they will now sell. And sellers will test the limits of what it will sell at. If they put it out at $10 and it sells all day long at shows or in the shop, they'll try $15. If it still sells, then $20 etc. Add in an auction setting where the price is determined by the competition of bidders, and that's when prices will escalate. Things like ebay not only make it easier to find and acquire books, it also contributes to the escalation of prices on in demand books because the competition aspect supersedes the supply/demand aspect of pricing in those cases. And it is not isolated or unique to comics. Try finding a hardcover or mass market paperback version of Robert Jordan's Eye of the World from the early editions with the Darrell Sweet cover art since the show has been in development at Amazon at an affordable price. The paperbacks are going for $20-30 and the hardcovers for upwards of $50 at every used bookseller I have looked at. The book is currently between printings (and later printings divided the book into 2 parts instead of a single novel) and even later editions of the single edition versions are selling for well above msrp. This was after years and years of copies being ubiquitous and cheap at used bookstores, but with the completion of the series by Sanderson and the announcement of the Amazon series demand for these spiked and so prices are rising. The supply isn't the issue, there hundreds of thousands if not close to a million copies in print at the books previous heyday of popularity in the 90s, but the recent increase in demand triggered an increase in prices. It's not artificial scarcity, it is demand driving the market price, as it always does. As long as people are willing to pay for the things they want, and there is any hint of competition in acquiring it, prices for things will continue to rise without supply being a factor. It's not a bubble that will burst or a trend, it is the way the market for collectibles and media has functioned in the 20th and 21st centuries, so unless the market itself is transformed, it's not going to stop or change. -M |
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Post by berkley on May 24, 2020 21:50:59 GMT -5
II don't feel tempted to look for original copies of the magazine but I do like the reprints in book form with the text in columns and the original Paget illustrations and everything. They look "right" to me. Agreed. Facsimile reproductions of the dual-column text layout of The Strand, with the Paget illustrations included, is the only way to go when you're reading Sherlock Holmes. I read The Return of Sherlock Holmes when I was a teenager in this form and just recently found the companion volume that combines The Adventures and The Memoirs . I wonder if there's a Hound of the Baskervilles edition like this, must have a look round for it.
edit: now that I look it up I see that Hound is included in the Return volume.
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