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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 21, 2016 20:29:36 GMT -5
Man, I have about 4 separate runs that I really enjoyed from the Captain America series : ( no particular order)
1. Fighting Chance -Captain America # 425-443
2.Steve Rogers stripped of his Uniform -Captain America # 332-350
3. John Byrne Run -Captain America # 247-254
4. The 50's Captain America returns -Captain America # 153-156
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Post by Mormel on Jan 22, 2016 6:28:14 GMT -5
Thanks for the recommendations, you guys! Think I'm most interested in the Byrne run, the Steranko issues (love Steranko), and the Golden Age Kirby stories. I thumbed through the 'Madbomb' and 'The Swine' Kirby TPBs a couple years ago, and it was just too much of a shift in tone and general story elements coming after the Englehart run for me to fully appreciate it.
The issues in the 300s when they take away his uniform is when he starts calling himself 'The Captain'? I like stories where Cap finds himself at odds with the government/authorities, and I've read a number of Avengers and Iron Man issues that have him as 'the Captain', so I'll be looking for those issues as well.
Forgot to say I also read and enjoyed the early 2000s Christopher Priest series (which I think was a Max title and not really part of main continuity?)
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Post by Crimebuster on Jan 22, 2016 12:34:33 GMT -5
The issues in the 300s when they take away his uniform is when he starts calling himself 'The Captain'? I like stories where Cap finds himself at odds with the government/authorities, and I've read a number of Avengers and Iron Man issues that have him as 'the Captain', so I'll be looking for those issues as well. This is #332-350, and is one of my favorites. It's a story that shows why Steve Rogers the individual is more important than the Captain America name and costume. It has some great stories, and some excellent retro-style covers from Ron Frenz. And while it's very serious overall, it's not afraid of embracing some Silver Age style goofiness in the process; #344 is a classic, with tainted drinking water turning the citizens of Washington D.C. into snake-people and Steve Rogers fighting lizard-man Ronald Reagan.
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Post by DE Sinclair on Jan 22, 2016 15:27:21 GMT -5
The issues in the 300s when they take away his uniform is when he starts calling himself 'The Captain'? I like stories where Cap finds himself at odds with the government/authorities, and I've read a number of Avengers and Iron Man issues that have him as 'the Captain', so I'll be looking for those issues as well. This is #332-350, and is one of my favorites. It's a story that shows why Steve Rogers the individual is more important than the Captain America name and costume. It has some great stories, and some excellent retro-style covers from Ron Frenz. And while it's very serious overall, it's not afraid of embracing some Silver Age style goofiness in the process; #344 is a classic, with tainted drinking water turning the citizens of Washington D.C. into snake-people and Steve Rogers fighting lizard-man Ronald Reagan. So, Reagan turns into a sweaty snake and attacks the Captain by swinging the flag at him. There would seem to be some subtext going on here that I'm not really sure how to process. All that's missing is Nancy with a flute playing the part of the snake charmer.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 22, 2016 15:36:43 GMT -5
Thanks for the recommendations, you guys! Think I'm most interested in the Byrne run, the Steranko issues (love Steranko), and the Golden Age Kirby stories. I thumbed through the 'Madbomb' and 'The Swine' Kirby TPBs a couple years ago, and it was just too much of a shift in tone and general story elements coming after the Englehart run for me to fully appreciate it. The issues in the 300s when they take away his uniform is when he starts calling himself 'The Captain'? I like stories where Cap finds himself at odds with the government/authorities, and I've read a number of Avengers and Iron Man issues that have him as 'the Captain', so I'll be looking for those issues as well. Forgot to say I also read and enjoyed the early 2000s Christopher Priest series (which I think was a Max title and not really part of main continuity?) The Byrne run (along with the few issues before it) is out in an epic collection, if you like trades... it's Marvel's best format right now, IMO... I just wish they'd get back to good stuff and stop with the 80s and 90s $1 bin stuff
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jan 22, 2016 15:44:19 GMT -5
Thanks for the recommendations, you guys! Think I'm most interested in the Byrne run, the Steranko issues (love Steranko), and the Golden Age Kirby stories. I thumbed through the 'Madbomb' and 'The Swine' Kirby TPBs a couple years ago, and it was just too much of a shift in tone and general story elements coming after the Englehart run for me to fully appreciate it. The issues in the 300s when they take away his uniform is when he starts calling himself 'The Captain'? I like stories where Cap finds himself at odds with the government/authorities, and I've read a number of Avengers and Iron Man issues that have him as 'the Captain', so I'll be looking for those issues as well. Forgot to say I also read and enjoyed the early 2000s Christopher Priest series (which I think was a Max title and not really part of main continuity?) Yeah, Kirby's last run has a different style of storytelling and the dialogue is "clunky" with lots of "random" quotation marks and bolded words for "no reason" But it does deal with a lot of similar sociological themes to what Englehart was doing - Both Kirby and Steve were trying to use comics as a symbolic mirror to society, so I don't consider 'em all that different. And the Captain story-arc is great. It's 19 issues of recycled Engelehart who was already recycling Steranko without the thematic subtext or the attention to continuity, but it is still great. The characterization is really sharp and there's a fun road trip vibe to the whole proceedings, with the Falcon, Nomad (Englehart's Bucky) Cap and D-Man working as an informal, underground superhero team. It's a 20 issue story that feels like it deserves 20 issues, and that never happens. I freakin' love the Falcon, but I could absolutely not get past the art in the Christopher Priest series. Someday I'll get back to it.
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Post by Mormel on Jan 22, 2016 18:08:46 GMT -5
This is #332-350, and is one of my favorites. It's a story that shows why Steve Rogers the individual is more important than the Captain America name and costume. It has some great stories, and some excellent retro-style covers from Ron Frenz. And while it's very serious overall, it's not afraid of embracing some Silver Age style goofiness in the process; #344 is a classic, with tainted drinking water turning the citizens of Washington D.C. into snake-people and Steve Rogers fighting lizard-man Ronald Reagan. Just the other day, I was checking out that very issue on fnord12's Chronology Project site (I was hopping through appearances of Coachwhip). That's what made me curious about more Cap stories to begin with. It's not always easy to be Pres of the USA within the pages of Captain America!
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Post by Confessor on Jan 27, 2016 1:50:03 GMT -5
I'm quite fond of Steve Rogers, but other than the Steve Englehart run from the mid 70s, a couple of scattered Roger Stern issues, and a bunch of Brubaker ones, I haven't read much of his solo title(s). What would you guys say are the highlights of the Star-Spangled Avenger's career? Which runs are really memorable? I'd definitely second the recommendation for Steranko's very short run and also suggest you check out the J. M. DeMatteis run from the early '80s. I've only read scattered issues from this particular run, but it seems very good -- quite gritty, very Bronze Age. It's definitely a run I'd like to explore more myself.
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Post by Mormel on Jan 28, 2016 16:32:29 GMT -5
^Thanks, I'll see if I can get my hands on that. DeMatteis tends to push the right buttons with me.
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Post by Crimebuster on Jan 28, 2016 17:16:06 GMT -5
The J. M. DeMatteis run on Captain America is really good. It's pretty much the first time in the whole series - maybe ever - where Steve Rogers seems to have a life outside of Captain America. Some of this was set up by Stern in the preceding run, as he introduced a new cast of supporting characters for Steve's secret identity. But DeMatteis really runs with it, especially with Bernie Rosenthal and her relationship with Steve.
The end of his run is epic, but also a little weird. He has a giant Red Skull storyline that runs from around #290-300, with some really just fantastic issues; the origin of Red Skull in #298 really stands out. But at the last minute, his plans for #300 were completely scrapped by Jim Shooter, so he quit the book and Shooter rewrote the ending of #300; the book came out with the story credited to "Michael Ellis," as DeMatteis didn't want his name on the story.
His run is definitely worth tracking down, there are some great stories in it.
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Post by Batflunkie on Feb 2, 2016 18:59:36 GMT -5
So I really like the original run of Ghost Rider (72'-83'), but have had some difficulty getting into the 90's Danny Ketch era beyond issue #2. Is it worth investing my time in it?
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Feb 2, 2016 19:56:57 GMT -5
Not to steal from that inquiry ^ but I just popped on here and saw this thread and though perfect! I may have asked this before, but how is Kaluta/O'Neill's The Shadow? I am thinking of making the 12 issues a goal for this year. Very attainable I think, if its good readin!
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Post by MDG on Feb 2, 2016 20:44:03 GMT -5
They're good, simple pulp stories. Nothing special, but enjoyable. It helps if you're al easy a fan of the character.
Kaluta only does four or five issues, though. Robbins does a few, and while it's a drastic break in the style, the art is just as good. Then ER Cruz finishes out the series.
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Post by Crimebuster on Feb 2, 2016 22:37:37 GMT -5
So I really like the original run of Ghost Rider (72'-83'), but have had some difficulty getting into the 90's Danny Ketch era beyond issue #2. Is it worth investing my time in it? The best part for me in those early issues is the return of Johnny Blaze as a main character in the series. If you're a fan of the original, it's pretty cool. I think he finally catches up to Danny around #13. The down side is that, like most serialized comic stories, it kind of doesn't go anywhere. I kept reading up into the early 30's but the narrative just goes off track and doesn't deliver on the setup.
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Post by Dizzy D on Feb 3, 2016 5:00:36 GMT -5
So I really like the original run of Ghost Rider (72'-83'), but have had some difficulty getting into the 90's Danny Ketch era beyond issue #2. Is it worth investing my time in it? The best part for me in those early issues is the return of Johnny Blaze as a main character in the series. If you're a fan of the original, it's pretty cool. I think he finally catches up to Danny around #13. The down side is that, like most serialized comic stories, it kind of doesn't go anywhere. I kept reading up into the early 30's but the narrative just goes off track and doesn't deliver on the setup. It did get a final issue that came out, I think 15 years?, after the final issue which was interesting in a WHY? kinda way. Johnny Blaze always had the better origin and personal character, but I think the Dan Ketch Ghost Rider is a far better design. Chris has done a few reviews of the early titles in his 90s thread.
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