Confessor
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Not Bucky O'Hare!
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Post by Confessor on May 21, 2018 5:00:43 GMT -5
Confessor, I might have to bring you a Liefeld comic when we meet, just to see the look on your face. Hee hee  Don't you dare! |
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Post by Icctrombone on May 21, 2018 5:41:36 GMT -5
You can't miss me, I'll be the one dressed as a green rabbit.  |
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Post by codystarbuck on May 21, 2018 12:21:14 GMT -5
You can't miss me, I'll be the one dressed as a green rabbit. I would have thought huge shoulder pads and pouches galore........ |
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Post by Jesse on Jun 7, 2018 20:04:00 GMT -5
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Post by rberman on Jun 7, 2018 23:24:44 GMT -5
I remember seeing that figure back when it was just a sketch. Funny idea. Notice that he still has no feet! |
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Post by EdoBosnar on Jun 8, 2018 3:28:18 GMT -5
Oh! And the gun has pouches, too. Very practical, not just to hold ammunition, but also brushes and lubricants for maintenance. (Although, given the shape of the barrel, I'm wondering if the gun shoots pouches as well...)
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Post by rberman on Jun 8, 2018 7:49:04 GMT -5
Oh! And the gun has pouches, too. Very practical, not just to hold ammunition, but also brushes and lubricants for maintenance. (Although, given the shape of the barrel, I'm wondering if the gun shoots pouches as well...) In the original drawing, it does just that. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 10:17:53 GMT -5
The Ultimate Utility Belt of all time! ... Strange Character and very Weird too. |
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Post by beccabear67 on Jun 13, 2018 21:14:04 GMT -5
May all your bonus free comics not be Rob Liefeld. I used to pride myself on not having any after hearing the name mentioned critically so often, and then some mail-order place stuck an X-Force in my package... "FREE COMIC FOR EVERY $20 SPENT!" Even free I still wanted my money back on that one. Agh, big muscles.... agh, big boobs... agh, tiny ankles.... I'm all for employing the blind but... I prefer Don Simpson, sorry. I see some art here that isn't like that X-Force (and I do not mean the Human Living Pouchman either), but it's going to take a couple dozen more pages of decent work to balance things from seeing just this one issue.  |
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Post by Hoosier X on Jun 15, 2018 10:52:14 GMT -5
Rob Liefeld has accomplished 1000 times more in comics than all you haters   combined - FACT! Plus, hes a pretty cool cat! That's all well and good … but I don't see how it makes him a good artist. I use my eyes to form opinions like that. |
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Post by beccabear67 on Jun 15, 2018 20:43:19 GMT -5
Not Liefeld but maybe his or an Image look influence? I was just reading Uncanny X-Men #376 and X-Men volume 2 #96, and in the former Cyclops and Colossus and most of the other guys have tree trunk necks and bizarre huge muscles and tiny heads. Everyone has these single unhappy pouty type mouths too. Then suddenly in the latter, Alan Davis is drawing Cyc and the big Russian in your generally classic hero type proportions with Cyclops looking just the right bit of "slim' Summers from way back. I think Alan Davis is amazing, the guy who filled in on that story that took place right before... unsubtle and hurts the overall story. I think the last new artist in super-comics I liked much was Art Adams, but then I saw Jim lee and some others and they started to get almost Bill Sienkiewicz bizarre but on top of an Art Adams base. I ordered some '90s comics with Terry Shoemaker art and Jan Duursema art because I had liked their art in the past... what I got was basically more of this Image monsterous-grotesque type of business, and it was stuff like that with The Punisher and Lobo in the windows making me not want to be seen going into a comic books shop for a long time! If I want that I will stick with Wonder Warthog or Megaton Man... that art style made a joke of the comics to me, those two I tried were pretty much ruined, and yet Shoemaker and Duursema used to draw beautifully and sensitively even... whether the style started with Rob Liefeld or not his sales records obviously had some kind of impact, and I would say for the negative. If like the two corrupted favorites I mention (I hope Alan Davis never goes there), Liefeld can actually draw well, and it seems he can when he wants to or takes the time, I do not understand when he doesn't. It's awful anatomy wise when he's at his worst, and extreme without communicating much else like Sienkiewicz's work can.
Anyway, if you like it you sure have had enough of it. Anyone want a couple barely read early X-Forces and a Professor Xavier And The X-Men #1? I'm only keeping Uncanny #376 solely for the cover art and the story.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 15, 2018 23:59:00 GMT -5
Not Liefeld but maybe his or an Image look influence? I was just reading Uncanny X-Men #376 and X-Men volume 2 #96, and in the former Cyclops and Colossus and most of the other guys have tree trunk necks and bizarre huge muscles and tiny heads. Everyone has these single unhappy pouty type mouths too. Then suddenly in the latter, Alan Davis is drawing Cyc and the big Russian in your generally classic hero type proportions with Cyclops looking just the right bit of "slim' Summers from way back. I think Alan Davis is amazing, the guy who filled in on that story that took place right before... unsubtle and hurts the overall story. I think the last new artist in super-comics I liked much was Art Adams, but then I saw Jim lee and some others and they started to get almost Bill Sienkiewicz bizarre but on top of an Art Adams base. I ordered some '90s comics with Terry Shoemaker art and Jan Duursema art because I had liked their art in the past... what I got was basically more of this Image monsterous-grotesque type of business, and it was stuff like that with The Punisher and Lobo in the windows making me not want to be seen going into a comic books shop for a long time! If I want that I will stick with Wonder Warthog or Megaton Man... that art style made a joke of the comics to me, those two I tried were pretty much ruined, and yet Shoemaker and Duursema used to draw beautifully and sensitively even... whether the style started with Rob Liefeld or not his sales records obviously had some kind of impact, and I would say for the negative. If like the two corrupted favorites I mention (I hope Alan Davis never goes there), Liefeld can actually draw well, and it seems he can when he wants to or takes the time, I do not understand when he doesn't. It's awful anatomy wise when he's at his worst, and extreme without communicating much else like Sienkiewicz's work can. Anyway, if you like it you sure have had enough of it. Anyone want a couple barely read early X-Forces and a Professor Xavier And The X-Men #1? I'm only keeping Uncanny #376 solely for the cover art and the story. Jan Dursema did some nice work on Dark Horse's Star Wars books. I suspect she was probably directed to keep it (the X-Men stuff) within the then-present style. |
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Post by rberman on Jun 16, 2018 7:24:27 GMT -5
I think Alan Davis is amazing, the guy who filled in on that story that took place right before... unsubtle and hurts the overall story. I think the last new artist in super-comics I liked much was Art Adams, but then I saw Jim lee and some others and they started to get almost Bill Sienkiewicz bizarre but on top of an Art Adams base. When I returned to comics after 20 years away, some artists that impressed me included: Stuart Immomen  John Cassaday  Andy Kubert  Zachary Baldus  Alex Ross  Frank Quitely  Gene Ha  Ethan Van Sciver  Diogenes Neves  Phil Jiminez  Bryan Hitch  |
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Post by beccabear67 on Jun 16, 2018 11:31:20 GMT -5
Some good ones there, I notice a bit of photo-realism ala John Bolton that can work sometimes and not work others, maybe if they are combining elements with different light-sources. Van Sciver, Neves and Jiminez look extremely impressive to me though! Gene ha I'd want to see more of, but also looks like my cup of tea (Yorkshire brand actually, with a Tesco's Malted Milk biscuit).  I like Andy and Adam Kubert usually, but then I loved their Dad's comics! They can get a little cartoony but it doesn't get overbearing when they do. I found one artist on my own so far I think is great and would buy if I saw their name... Adriana Melo. Ian Churchill on Supergirl had been pretty good. A little more subtlety of facial expression is needed by some of the newer artists (not that Kirby or Tuska or whoever were ever all that subtle I guess), I got tired of frowny yet pouty mouth on everyone in a lot of the '90s onward comics I've seen. The other mouth I am sick of is the evil toothy Joker leer... bleh, enough already, worn out completely! Take some life drawing classes already, Brian Bolland exempted. |
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Post by rberman on Jun 16, 2018 11:37:42 GMT -5
Some good ones there, I notice a bit of photo-realism ala John Bolton that can work sometimes and not work others, maybe if they are combining elements with different light-sources. Van Sciver, Neves and Jiminez look extremely impressive to me though! Gene ha I'd want to see more of, but also looks like my cup of tea (Yorkshire brand actually, with a Tesco's Malted Milk biscuit). I only know Gene Ha from his work on Alan Moore's "Top Ten" which is a riff on Hill Street Blues, set in a world of superheroes, gods, etc. As such, he gives everyone their own face rather than idealized superhero face, and the background is filled with Easter Eggs in the form of various cameo appearances. For instance, you can see Man-Bat in the sky in the image I posted above. Below is a pin-up of the police squad. Their captain is at the bottom, a Doberman who walks upright with the aid of a cybernetic suit. I will probably do a review series on Top Ten at some point after I finish Astonishing X-Men.  |
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