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Post by brutalis on Feb 26, 2021 12:09:52 GMT -5
Recorded it and looking forward to watching this weekend. What clips I have seen give me hope for an entertaining series. I gave up on Supergirl after the 2nd season so hope her big cousin does better.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 12:50:18 GMT -5
Recorded it and looking forward to watching this weekend. What clips I have seen give me hope for an entertaining series. I gave up on Supergirl after the 2nd season so hope her big cousin does better. same here. Supergirl started great and quickly became unwatchable for me. |
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Post by EdoBosnar on Feb 28, 2021 5:42:09 GMT -5
Watched this last night and found it quite good. I'll definitely be tuning in to future episodes.
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Post by beyonder1984 on Feb 28, 2021 14:41:20 GMT -5
I thought this was a perfect pilot and is a "real" Superman show, not with limits like Smallville (Suberboy with no costume) or Lois & Clark (romance + not much action) had. I did not have to know anything about the other CW shows. Excellent entry point. Very dramatic and a different take on Superman on TV.
It really hurts me that two great people like Clark and Lois could have problems with their teens, but it really humanizes them and is a real part of life. It makes sense as career parents. It was also a (realistic) shame that the boys didn't really know their grandma.
So yeah, if Jesus and Mary had teenagers they would have issues too. Such is life. Just pretty sad cycle of life as I remember turning on my parent as a teen, and my teens eventually did the same to me. At least by the end of the episode, things are looking up for Superman.
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Post by brutalis on Feb 28, 2021 18:26:19 GMT -5
This is Superman done properly. Thank you CW. the Clark/Lois marriage/relationship feels very real and honest with a true connection between the actors. Clark is human and failable and believable as a person and not just an act to cover his heroic identity. Tyler Hoechlin may turn out to be one of if not the best in the role as Superman/Clark if the writers provide him the proper material. I was truly feeling his pain at the death of his mother and the disconnect with son Jordan.
Great touches throughout the entire episode and splendid visuals, especially in the opening montage/set up. Captain Luthor eh? Is his diatribe about a similar loss and destruction of his world a reference to the Crisis and his Earth's destruction in the multiverse? Hmmmmm indeed. Be interesting down the line for the 2 Lex's to confront one another.
Really liking the concept and approach and style of this premiere episode. This along with Flash makes for must see/record TV on Yuesday night!
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Post by Randle-El on Mar 1, 2021 1:15:59 GMT -5
Agreed with all the positive comments. As a lifelong Superman fan, especially in all of his live action TV and film appearances, I was really looking forward to this show and it did not disappoint. I feel like it's been too long since we've had a proper live action Superman. I followed Smallville faithfully through its ups and downs, but because of its constant flirtation-with-Superman-without-being-Superman, it wasn't a proper Superman show to me. The Snyderverse/DCEU Superman was such a big disappointment to me on so many levels. Brandon Routh's Superman was promising, but it never reached its full potential. I hope that this show can maintain a high level of quality, as it has a real chance to be one of the high points of live action Superman adaptations.
Things I loved:
The costume -- I feel like this costume is the perfect balance between the classic look with modern updates (textured fabric, no trunks, darker but not dingy colors). I wasn't a fan of the shoulder pads from the Supergirl version of the costume, so glad to see those go. I feel like this is the version that Caville's version could have been had they not decided to go extra dark and drab with the colors and added all the extra unnecessary alien swirlies.
Tone -- This is obviously a comic book show that's going to have fantastical elements, but there's a weightiness to the tone that lends it more realism than most of the other Arrowverse shows. Let's be honest, some of those other shows can get pretty out there and silly with the comic elements (Legends and Flash, I'm looking at you).
Superman and Lois as parents -- The perennial complaint about Superman is that he is a hard character to write because he's so powerful that it's hard to create challenging situations for him. Which is exactly why making him a parent to teenagers is such a brilliant move. It's the ultimate challenge that he can't fix with his powers. And I think it hits home for a lot of us who are parents, who might feel pretty accomplished and put together in our professional lives or other accomplishments, but are easily humbled by the demands of parenting.
Questions I have:
Do they drop any hints that reveal how Clark and Lois have teenage boys? From the continuity of the rest of the Arrowverse shows, the kids should be much much younger.
Totally tangential Star Trek TNG observation:
Did anyone else notice that the actress playing Martha Kent was played by Michele Scarabelli, who played Jenna D'Sora, Data's experimental girlfriend?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 16:31:09 GMT -5
Second episode continues the story arc as they settle in Smallville. Great family scenes mixed with enough action scenes makes this a show that the whole family can get into.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 22:10:29 GMT -5
Do they drop any hints that reveal how Clark and Lois have teenage boys? From the continuity of the rest of the Arrowverse shows, the kids should be much much younger.
At the end of the Crisis crossover, Lois calls Clark and says "the boys" need him. But based on what we saw in the open of Superman & Lois, they rewrote the entire timeline of the characters when they moved over to Earth Prime. All the writers used the Crisis as a way to both fix, as well as set up stuff across the Arrowverse. I imagine they knew the direction they wanted to take with the characters beyond their appearances in Supergirl and were able to fit it in at the end. |
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Post by Randle-El on Mar 4, 2021 0:17:07 GMT -5
Do they drop any hints that reveal how Clark and Lois have teenage boys? From the continuity of the rest of the Arrowverse shows, the kids should be much much younger.
At the end of the Crisis crossover, Lois calls Clark and says "the boys" need him. But based on what we saw in the open of Superman & Lois, they rewrote the entire timeline of the characters when they moved over to Earth Prime. All the writers used the Crisis as a way to both fix, as well as set up stuff across the Arrowverse. I imagine they knew the direction they wanted to take with the characters beyond their appearances in Supergirl and were able to fit it in at the end.
Yes, I recall that... but unless I was mistaken, that was only establishing that they had twins. I was under the impression that they were still babies. I suppose that since Crisis is being used as a catch-all fix for continuity, it's not a stretch to just wave your hands and say Crisis did it all. Still, for some reason the fact that they are teenagers seems more jarring than there being two of them when there used to be one. Maybe it's also because Clark and Lois don't really look old enough to be parents of teenagers.
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Post by brutalis on Mar 7, 2021 11:12:20 GMT -5
Second episode continues the story arc as they settle in Smallville. Great family scenes mixed with enough action scenes makes this a show that the whole family can get into. Very satisfying follow up to the 1st episode. Liking the focus is family driven and emphasis is firmly upon the "man" more than the "super". Jor-El the AI is still firmly the jerk-wad parent furthering the connect to Smallville the series. That he looks down upon us "Terran's" in his Kryptonian arrogance shows why the Elder Kryptonian council ignored his findings and thus dooming Krypton to destruction. He is as ignorant and self absorbed in himself as they were. Can't wait until Clark and Jordan show him how wrong he is. Kind of liking that the twins have a bond and not rival siblings, though that may come later if Jonathan becomes jealous of Jordan over his growing abilities or attention from Clark and Lois. Glad to see the writers providing ample time for Lois as she is a large part of the dynamic of what Superman is all about. Seeing her and Supe's as parents gives a new creative push and interesting change. The pacing is superb in building up the enemies Luthor and Edge. No doubt they will find their common bond and meet as the show progresses. A team-up between the two is inevitable. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2021 22:16:08 GMT -5
3rd episode was excellent. Pulled back some to focus more on the boys and Lois. Still had some great action scenes. No Luthor this week but that was a good thing. I really love watching this show as a family and everyone gets something from it.
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Post by brutalis on Mar 14, 2021 11:00:48 GMT -5
Enjoyed this episode with Supe's pulling the old dumb father dickery of listening in on the boys at school. What parent wouldn't watch over their child if the had super hearing? It was understandable and a very human thing to do when you are Superdad.
Jordan standing up and fighting back now rather than internalizing shows his powers manifesting in a different way. No longer feeling as "alienated" and confused he now shows courage and determination to confront things than to retreat. Really liking the brothers connection/interaction when they are together. Be interesting to see if the football team causes issues between them or strengthen their bond? Clark can hopefully use this to reconnect with both his sons.
Lois the reporter is finding small town life can be just as dangerous as the big city. Definitely more than just conspiracy fears going on, especially when your car is set on fire as a warning. Which of course only provides a reason for a good reporter to start digging deeper.
Was a very cool quick Superfight and shows Clark uses his brains as much as muscles in a fight. Also shows that all the action in the show doesn't have to be the large or explosive type. Liking the show more as it continues.
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Post by Randle-El on Mar 14, 2021 23:30:09 GMT -5
Agreed with all the positive comments. This show thus far is well-done. Tyler Hoechlin and Elizabeth Tulloch are extremely likable as Clark and Lois. We've only had them for a few episodes, but I already think they are the best live action Clark and Lois we've had in over 30 years.
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Post by mrbrklyn on Mar 20, 2021 2:26:06 GMT -5
this looks like fun, and I'll be tuning in for the first few episodes to check it out. I'm watching it and it is cynical, joyless, hyperdramatic, and short of real heroics or excitement. It is a product of a genration that finds no joy in anything and has little belief in the power of the individual. Its a real dud, but I bet it will sell. |
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Post by mrbrklyn on Mar 20, 2021 2:32:51 GMT -5
BTW - to me, none of the relationships feel real, and the acting is subpar. if you enjoy watching teenagers self-destruct and family court style drama... you are going to LOVE this show. Meanwhile, I am flipping back to watch Eight is Enough and Lois and Clark.
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