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Post by Confessor on Mar 31, 2023 16:28:34 GMT -5
I got the first season of Are You Being Served? from the library. It’s a British show from the 1970s and 1980s that I’ve seen from time to time over the years. I’m sure I’ve seen less than 20 episodes. I finally decided to try to watch the whole series. And WOW it hits the ground running! I’ve only watched the first two episodes so far. The second episode especially was killing me! When I was a nipper in the mid-to-late '70s, Are You Being Served? was one of the most popular sitcoms on TV here in Britain. It's still regarded with an awful lot of affection by large swathes of the population today. And John Inman's catchphrase of, "I'm free!", while not as ubiquitous as it was back in the day, can still be heard being quoted in everyday life with surprising regularity. I've re-watched random episodes of the show over the past few years and, while it is horribly dated, I must admit that it's actually still pretty damn funny in places.
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Post by Batflunkie on Mar 31, 2023 17:28:07 GMT -5
I got the first season of Are You Being Served? from the library. It’s a British show from the 1970s and 1980s that I’ve seen from time to time over the years. I’m sure I’ve seen less than 20 episodes. I finally decided to try to watch the whole series. And WOW it hits the ground running! I’ve only watched the first two episodes so far. The second episode especially was killing me! When I was a nipper in the mid-to-late '70s, Are You Being Served? was one of the most popular sitcoms on TV here in Britain. It's still regarded with an awful lot of affection by large swathes of the population today. And John Inman's catchphrase of, "I'm free!", while not as ubiquitous as it was back in the day, can still be heard being quoted in everyday life with surprising regularity. I've re-watched random episodes of the show over the past few years and, while it is horribly dated, I must admit that it's actually still pretty damn funny in places. They also tried to remake it recently, it didn't do too well
I bought a box set of Series 1-5 and while some of the plots get a little tiresome, it's still pretty damned funny. I feel like working in retail has given me a better appreciation of this show throughout the years
Also they tried to do an American version?
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Post by chadwilliam on Mar 31, 2023 19:17:24 GMT -5
I think some people turn their noses up at Are You Being Served? regarding its humour as too lowbrow to be worthy of consideration at all, but I love the show so much that I purchased tickets to see John Inman in the pantomime Dick Whittington while in London about 15 years ago. Unfortunately, he wasn't well enough to attend and sadly passed away shortly thereafter, but the fact that he was so highly regarded as a pantomime performer wasn't surprising and speaks a lot to the versatility he shared with his castmates. What could have easily have denigrated into a show featuring a group of one-note characters spouting out well worn catch phrases on cue was frequently quite clever too thanks as much to Croft and Llyod's writing as to the extremely talent actors involved.
Mr. Lucas was my favorite character and gave the show a lot of the wit and creativity which it usually isn't credited for. Lucas was played by Trevor Bannister who once explained how the cast would spend about six days rehearsing and coming up with little touches here and there before recording on the seventh which I think accounts for how much life these characters surprisingly had. Kind of maddening for a Beatles fan such as myself to know that three of the actors involved (Wendy Richards, Frank Thornton, and Alfie Bass) all had parts in one of their first two films only for two of them to have their scenes be cut and lost to posterity.
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Post by codystarbuck on Mar 31, 2023 20:56:05 GMT -5
When I was a nipper in the mid-to-late '70s, Are You Being Served? was one of the most popular sitcoms on TV here in Britain. It's still regarded with an awful lot of affection by large swathes of the population today. And John Inman's catchphrase of, "I'm free!", while not as ubiquitous as it was back in the day, can still be heard being quoted in everyday life with surprising regularity. I've re-watched random episodes of the show over the past few years and, while it is horribly dated, I must admit that it's actually still pretty damn funny in places. They also tried to remake it recently, it didn't do too well
I bought a box set of Series 1-5 and while some of the plots get a little tiresome, it's still pretty damned funny. I feel like working in retail has given me a better appreciation of this show throughout the years
Also they tried to do an American version?
Uh....that remake......... Glad to see it isn't just US viewers who suffer through horrible remakes, though I knew that was the flavor in UK tv, too. I watched Reggie Perrin (based on The Fall and Rise of Reginald Perrin) and, though it wasn't bad, thanks to Martin Clunes making the best of it, it wasn't especially memorable or that terribly funny. Amusing maybe. I dread the thought that someone out there might try to remake The Avengers, aside from the travesty of a film (not the marvel one, obviously....the Uma one, where Sean Connery disgraced himself, again). Back to the original, it does run the catchphrases into the ground; but, the actors really knew how to breathe life into the cliches by little bits here and there. I particularly loved whenever Inman would adopt his "butch voice" for a gag. They all had tremendous timing, too, as you can see them holding as the audience jumps to the punchline, then deliver it with some added zest and get an even bigger laugh. The live audiences really helped the comedy be so lively, especially with the way they ended up recycling jokes and plots, with their longevity. David Crofft had a shrewd eye for casting and writing towards the strengths of the performer and Jeremy Lloyd turned out to be a much better writer than an actor (pretty much played one character, of an upper class "toff," from the days of Empire). I mostly recall him from Laugh In, but have seen him in a few things, like Those Magnificent Men and Their Flying Machines. Of course, he was Mr Joanna Lumley, for a period (at least when she appeared in a couple of early episodes). Over the years, I have spotted the cast members in a few other things. John Inman, Wendy Richards and Molly Sugden I have only seen in episodes of the show and some clips of other work (never saw a full episode of East Enders and really don't think I have missed out); but, Trevor Bannister was in an episode of Keeping Up Appearances and I caught Frank Thornton in a couple of things, including the Richard Lester Three Musketeers, as a man riding in a litter when Raquel Welch jumps onto the rail, to escape men chasing her, with her chest thrust through a window and he starts the reach towards them. Nicholas Smith played a crook in "The Fictionmakers," on The Saint and appeared in an episode of The Avengers. James Hayter, who played Mr Tebbs (the replacement for Mr Grainger) was in The Crimson Pirate, with Burt Lancaster. Several guest performers were in other Crofft shows, like Allo, Allo and Dad's Army. AYBS was a great favorite of PBS and it was often featured during pledge drives, especially on our local station (WILL-Urbana, which is part of the Univ of Illinois) and the actors would make guest appearances or would be featured in taped appeals, while the ran specials, like the AYBS movie or the clip show special they did, where Mr Humphreys is writing his memoirs for a potential movie or series. Dr Who was about the only other British institution that carried the same level of attraction for pledge week.
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Post by Hoosier X on Mar 31, 2023 22:09:47 GMT -5
I requested Season Two of Are You Being Served? from the library but it hasn’t popped up as yet.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2023 15:30:33 GMT -5
US soap General Hospital debuted 60 years ago today, on ABC. It is still running today, having clocked up over 15,000 episodes.
I’m not sure it’s ever been shown in the UK. I have not seen it.
The Guinness World Records lists it as the world’s third longest-running scripted drama series, after The Archers (which began in 1950) and Coronation Street (which began in 1960).
It’s quite astonishing to think that the people who created it are, most likely, no longer with us. It certainly makes you think about the passage of time. Is anyone that worked on this show in the beginning, either in front of or behind the camera, still with us? I’d wager that that’s a no.
Anyone here watched it?
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 1, 2023 18:22:59 GMT -5
US soap General Hospital debuted 60 years ago today, on ABC. It is still running today, having clocked up over 15,000 episodes. I’m not sure it’s ever been shown in the UK. I have not seen it. The Guinness World Records lists it as the world’s third longest-running scripted drama series, after The Archers (which began in 1950) and Coronation Street (which began in 1960). It’s quite astonishing to think that the people who created it are, most likely, no longer with us. It certainly makes you think about the passage of time. Is anyone that worked on this show in the beginning, either in front of or behind the camera, still with us? I’d wager that that’s a no. Anyone here watched it? Recently? No. As a kid? Yeah. Back in the 70s, when I was a kid, there were only the three networks (NBC, ABC and CBS) and public broadcasting (we didn't have an independent UHF station, in our area). If you were home sick from school and were propped up in bed, with the tv, of under a blanket, on a sofa, watching tv, you could only see cartoons or Sesame Street at certain parts of the day. The rest of the day was mostly game shows and soap operas. Any sick day, for me, found me lying on the couch, under a blanket, watching mostly ABC programming. Mid-day to 3:00 pm, that meant soap operas. So, it was All My Children, followed by One Life To Live, followed by General Hospital. Then, programming turned to syndicated fare, like reruns and more game shows. The two longest running characters, from my era, were Dr Steve Hardy (played by John Beradino) and nurse Jessie Brewer (Emily McLaughlin) who had been with the show, since inception. The plots were typical fare, revolving around the hospital. In the early days, Jessie was married to Paul Brewer, played by Roy Thinnes (The Invaders, Battlestar Galactica, Journey tot he Far Side of the Sun), but he was out of the picture by the time I saw any of it. They introduced a young girl character, Laura Vining, played by Stacey Baldwin. She turns out to to be the daughter of Dr Leslie Williams, who became pregnant, out of wedlock. She was led to believe her daughter died after birth; but, later learns that the babies were switched and her daughter was living with the Vining family, struggling on a teacher's salary. The character appeared for a couple of years, then, was written out of the show. in 1977, she was brought back, to appeal to a younger audience, and was played by Genie Francis. She develops a romance with Scott Baldwin, the son of a counselor at the hospital. Meanwhile, she goes to work at a campus disco, managed by Luke Spencer (Tony Geary), who operates it for a mobster, Frank Smith. Smith orders Spencer, who has a shady past, to murder a senator and he refuses. Laura comforts him and he tries to seduce her, during a dance in the closed disco (set to Herb Alpert's "Rise"), and she resists him and he rapes her. Laura forgives him and tries to hide what has happened, by Scotty finds out and nearly kills Luke. Laura ends up defending Luke and breaks it off with Scotty and she and Luke become a couple. They then became the prototype "super couple," around whom storylines were built, as a ratings grab. Meanwhile, you had a family of doctors, named Webber, which included Dr Rick Webber, younger brother Jeff Webber, and the afore-mentioned Leslie Williams marries Rick Webber and adopts his name. Jeff Webber was played by Richard Dean Anderson, who would go on to star in MacGyver and Stargate SG-1 (and is the son of Richard "Oscar Goldman" Anderson, of The Six MIllion Dollar Man). Added into this mix were the Quartermaine family, a wealthy industrialist father, played by Les Tremayne (who was mentor, on the Shazam live action tv series), wife Lila (played by actress Anna Lee, whose career stretched back to the 1920s and was the goddaughter of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle) and their son Alan (yup....Alan Quartermaine...though not Alan Quatermain, as in H Rider Hagard's King Solomon's Mines)., played by Stuart Damon (who co-starred in the ITV series The Champions, in the 60s). Jeff Webber's wife, Monica. She had been in love with brother Rick, who was presumed dead, but turned up, alive. Well, before you know it, they are playing "doctor", together and she divorces Jeff. Rick is involved with Leslie Williams, gets pregnant by him, falls down the stairs (thanks to Monica) miscarries but the truth isn't known that Monica caused it, until Laura reveals a taped conversation. Rick marries Leslie and Alan Quartermaine gets sloppy seconds from Monica and marries her after Rick rejects her. Got all that? Now, into Port Charles (the setting) comes shady multi-millionaire Mikkos Cassadine (played by Batlestar Galactica's Baltar, John Colicos), who is searching for something called the Ice Princess, which falls into the hands of the Quartermaine family. It turns out, hidden inside are synthetic diamonds. They are actually components for a device that can control weather patterns. Luke and Laura discover this, with the aid of Robert Scorpio, a secret agent from the World Security Bureau. They stow away on Cassadine's yacht, which sails to a remote and private island, where he has his base of operations for his weather machine. Luke, Laura and Robert Scorpio work to sabotage the machine (which causes frak winter storms, over Port Charles) and contact the WSB, who send in a commando team to blow the place up. Luke and Laura get married, in a massive ratings hit and their wedding is visited by Elizabeth Taylor, as the widow of Cassadine. That was about the last storyline I ever saw. General Hospital, in the Luke & Laura era of the late 70s and early 80s, was a ratings juggernaut. The overhaul of the show, instigated in 1976-77, brought in younger audiences and soon it was a favorite of high school and college age viewers, as well as the traditional audience. They got bigger and bigger budgets to do location filming, in exotic places and special episodes. It was a BIG big deal. They, however, declined in ratings, as cable sucked away viewers with alternatives and the networks lost viewership and started slashing budgets. Most of the soap operas I knew, as a kid, were cancelled in recent decades. During the Luke & Laura period, they introduced a young doctor, Noah Drake, played by Australian actor and singer Rick Springfield. After being cast on the show, Springfield's Working Class Dog album was released. Springfield's previous albums hadn't done spectacularly in America. His acting had been in things like The Six Million Dollar Man, the cartoon series Mission Magic (where he also sang) and he was the ill-fated Zac, brother of Apollo, on Battlestar Galactica, who is killed in the initial Cylon ambush. For that reason, Springfield was focusing on acting. Neither he nor his agent expected his album to do well; but, the single off of it, "Jessie's Girl" shot up to number one when fans of General Hospital, particularly teen and colelge age girls, saw that hunky Dr Noah Drake had an album out. The album peaked at #7 on the Billboard charts and Springfield went off to do concerts and movies. The concerts sold, the movies bombed and he kind of bounced back and forth between music and acting, while getting messed up on drugs and alcohol. Quite frankly, Noah Drake was his pinnacle, as an actor (though I haven't seen that movie he did with Meryl Streep), as The Human Target sure sucked. All mY Children was a good one and was a favorite of Carol Burnette, who would end up playing a recurring guest role on there. The main villainess, Phoebe Tyler Wallingford, was played by Rith Warrick, who co-starred with Orson Welles, in Citizen Kane. She used to appear on talk shows and was a hoot. i recall an appearance on one, where an audience member said her character was such a b@#$h. Warrick, who was in a wheel chair, after a broken ankle or foot, responded, "Now I'm a b@#$h on wheels!" The other major character there was Erika Kane, played by Susan Lucci, forever snubbed by the Daytime Emmy Awards. In between the two was One Life to Live, which kind of coasted on the popularity of the other two soaps. It had some good moments and one of it's key characters, Karen Wolek, was played by actress Judith Light, who went on to star in Who's The Boss, with Tony Danza, and was recently in Julia, about the start of The French Chef, with Julia Child (playing Blanche Knopf, the head of publisher Alfred Knopf, who published Child's cookbook, Mastering The Art of French Cooking). Now, GH is the oldest existing soap (since most of the rest were shut down); but, the oldest of those that ran the longest, before being shut down, was As the World Turns, which began in 1956, on the CBS network. It was put to sleep in 2010. It was killed off to make room so that Sara Gilbert (Roseanne) and Sharon Osborne (wife of Ozzy) could have a cheap knockoff of The View, which was hardly riveting television in the first place (unless you couldn't get enough of Barbara Walters). I am sad to say I know that much about General Hospital.
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 1, 2023 18:54:14 GMT -5
ps Some clips.
A little montage with Luke Spencer, as he arrives in Port Charles (his sister Bobbie, was already there and was the resident conniving b@#$h)
The climax of the Ice Princess storyline, in pure, low budget, james Bond fashion (with acting that makes The Man From UNCLE look like RADA)
The wedding, which was the highest rated program in daytime network tv history....
Elizabeth Taylor, as Helena Cassadine.
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 1, 2023 19:05:07 GMT -5
More from the Ice Princess. WSB agent Robert Scorpio fills in Luke & Laura. Note, the agent who calls Scorpio is Billie Hayes, the former Witchiepoo, of HR Pufnstuf. Agent O'Reilly takes one for the team.... You can see the major events in the Ice Princess saga, and other storyline clips of the era, on this channel.....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2023 14:04:24 GMT -5
When I watch some modern UK detective shows, it appears that there are detectives who specialise in exclusively investigating murders.
Now, that did seem the case in some classic US shows, Columbo only ever investigated homicides. But in classic UK shows, it seemed like detectives would investigate a wide range of crimes: murder, armed robbery, burglary, rape, etc. In The Bill, the CID were investigating a wide range of crimes. No single officer seemed to focus solely on murders.
But in modern UK shows, it does seem that it’s murders only for some officers.
I wonder, in the real world (UK), are there detectives who exclusively investigate murders? If I was a detective, I’d probably want some variety.
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 6, 2023 20:28:54 GMT -5
When I watch some modern UK detective shows, it appears that there are detectives who specialise in exclusively investigating murders. Now, that did seem the case in some classic US shows, Columbo only ever investigated homicides. But in classic UK shows, it seemed like detectives would investigate a wide range of crimes: murder, armed robbery, burglary, rape, etc. In The Bill, the CID were investigating a wide range of crimes. No single officer seemed to focus solely on murders. But in modern UK shows, it does seem that it’s murders only for some officers. I wonder, in the real world (UK), are there detectives who exclusively investigate murders? If I was a detective, I’d probably want some variety. Organization is going to depend on the size of the police force and the detective division/CID. Larger municipalities will have more specialized groups, while smaller areas may be investigating robberies and homicide. In the US cities, you will have detectives split along lines like robbery, homicide, vice, narcotics (sometimes with vice), fraud/Bunco, etc. You also have things like Major Crimes Units, which handle serious high end robbery and violent crime, and murder. For instance, the Michael Mann tv series, Crime Story, was about a Chicago MCU, based on the experiences of show creator Chuck Adamson, an ex-Chicago MCU detective. Denis Farina, who starred in the series, had worked with Adamson. The film Heat was also based on Adamson's experience. Lt Columbo was a Homicide detective; and, thus, dealt only with murder. In the UK, there are murder squads, in the larger cities, from what I have read. Usually, detectives will work in several different specialties, over the course of their career, unless they have a particular talent and remain in that area. The UK series New Tricks had Gerry Standing (Dennis Waterman) mention working vice, a pedophile task group, and other crimes. Jane Tennison, of Prime Suspect, has run rape, vice and murder units, as mentioned in the series and commands a vice team, in Prime Suspect 3. Of course, they end up with a murder on their "patch."
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 7, 2023 16:26:24 GMT -5
Started a re-watch of Mad Men. I'm about half-way through the first season. What an amazing series of character studies. Way beyond the usual suspects of Don Draper and Peggy Olsen. An interesting look at generational views as you have Don about half way between the old-guard conservatism of Roger Sterling and the younger generation of Pete Campbell. It's also interesting to see the characters who, at least in Season One are still really just children, in particular Betty Draper and, again, Pete Campbell.
One of those great TV dramas following in the footsteps of The Sopranos.
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Post by Prince Hal on Apr 7, 2023 18:14:17 GMT -5
Started a re-watch of Mad Men. I'm about half-way through the first season. What an amazing series of character studies. Way beyond the usual suspects of Don Draper and Peggy Olsen. An interesting look at generational views as you have Don about half way between the old-guard conservatism of Roger Sterling and the younger generation of Pete Campbell. It's also interesting to see the characters who, at least in Season One are still really just children, in particular Betty Draper and, again, Pete Campbell. One of those great TV dramas following in the footsteps of The Sopranos. One particularly important person in common: Matthew Weiner.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2023 5:34:09 GMT -5
Is 2010 classic? Watched the first episode of Blue Bloods last night, featuring Tom Selleck as the NYPD Commissioner, Frank Reagan.
(They should do a Magnum/Blue Bloods crossover, where Magnum comes out of retirement and clashes with the commissioner in New York over an old case)
I did like the multi-faceted nature of the episode, which featured an investigation, a bit of politics, some family moments, etc.
I still don’t know what the difference between a police commissioner and chief of police is, though. The former is appointed by a mayor, right? The latter is a cop who’s worked his/her way up to that role. But I can’t work out what the role difference is, both seem to run the police force operationally.
Also, is a police commissioner only allowed to wear a uniform at ceremonial events and the like? 99% of the time, Frank has an ordinary suit on.
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 25, 2023 11:44:48 GMT -5
Is 2010 classic? Watched the first episode of Blue Bloods last night, featuring Tom Selleck as the NYPD Commissioner, Frank Reagan. (They should do a Magnum/Blue Bloods crossover, where Magnum comes out of retirement and clashes with the commissioner in New York over an old case) I did like the multi-faceted nature of the episode, which featured an investigation, a bit of politics, some family moments, etc. I still don’t know what the difference between a police commissioner and chief of police is, though. The former is appointed by a mayor, right? The latter is a cop who’s worked his/her way up to that role. But I can’t work out what the role difference is, both seem to run the police force operationally. Also, is a police commissioner only allowed to wear a uniform at ceremonial events and the like? 99% of the time, Frank has an ordinary suit on. Police Commissioner is usually a political appointment, while Chief of Police is an administrative position. However, it depends on the jurisdiction. There are organizations where Police Commissioner is the senior police officer. In cases where there are both, the commissioner is head of an governmental oversight of the police force, while the Chief directly supervises the operations of the police, like the Attorney General is the cabinet position in charge of the Justice Department of the united States, which has oversight over Federal law enforcement, including the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). The Director of the FBI heads the Bureau, but answers to the Attorney General. In Gotham City, Commissioner Gordon is there to call in Batman, because Chief O'Hara and the Gotham City Police Department are so incompetent. Even Batman recognizes it, because he keeps turning down Chief O'Hara when he offers police assistance with the new villain. Batman is polite about it; but, you can see his eyes roll, under his cowl.
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