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Post by Rob Allen on Apr 25, 2023 17:13:24 GMT -5
I still don’t know what the difference between a police commissioner and chief of police is, though. This will help: work.chron.com/police-commissioners-job-25236.html"Police departments around the U.S. call their top police officer by different titles, which can be confusing. Not all police departments have police commissioners. For some cities and towns, the police chief is the top officer. Others call their top officer the police commissioner, but the job is more like that of the police chief. Only a few large cities have both a police commissioner and a police chief, but when they do, the commissioner is the top brass." In Portland, the nearest big city to me, the mayor is also the police commissioner, and there's a police chief. PS. Blue Bloods is a good show. It's still running.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2023 0:44:46 GMT -5
Life is never simple, eh?
Here in the UK, a commissioner is the top officer in the Met Police. The City of London Police is also run by a commissioner.
However, throughout the rest of the UK, there are police and crime commissioners, they are civilians (usually attached to a political party) that oversee county police forces. On just one occasion years ago, a London-based friend asked me why those commissioners are civilians rather than top cops. We don’t do anything easy over here.
I’m also told a senior Royal Navy officer runs a particular function at one of our RAF stations. Nothing is ever what logic might expect…
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Post by Batflunkie on Apr 26, 2023 7:37:11 GMT -5
Been watching Twilight Zone before I head to bed, been a nice little ritual. Had the complete series box set for years, but never touched it
Season 1 has been interesting, lots of displaced people, deals with the devil, and all that
Even at it's worst, Twilight Zone is still fairly watchable and I think that's a testament of it's quality
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 26, 2023 11:09:02 GMT -5
Life is never simple, eh? Here in the UK, a commissioner is the top officer in the Met Police. The City of London Police is also run by a commissioner. However, throughout the rest of the UK, there are police and crime commissioners, they are civilians (usually attached to a political party) that oversee county police forces. On just one occasion years ago, a London-based friend asked me why those commissioners are civilians rather than top cops. We don’t do anything easy over here. I’m also told a senior Royal Navy officer runs a particular function at one of our RAF stations. Nothing is ever what logic might expect… What is the function?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2023 11:46:44 GMT -5
From 2020 to 2022, a Royal Navy officer (rank of commander) was in charge of No. 617 Squadron RAF (“The Dambusters”).
At some point last year, The Dambusters came under the command of an RAF officer (wing commander rank). I believe 2020 to 2022 was the only time in the squadron’s history that a Royal Navy officer commanded them.
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 26, 2023 14:25:52 GMT -5
From 2020 to 2022, a Royal Navy officer (rank of commander) was in charge of No. 617 Squadron RAF (“The Dambusters”). At some point last year, The Dambusters came under the command of an RAF officer (wing commander rank). I believe 2020 to 2022 was the only time in the squadron’s history that a Royal Navy officer commanded them. Only reason I could think of would be a shortage of officers at the necessary rank. If it was an overlapping function, I could see one service providing a CO who commanded officers of the other. For instance, a weather research and tracking unit; or, a tactical training command, like Fighter Weapons School (aka Top Gun). I could see a naval aviator in charge of an Air Force Aggressor Squadron. There, the emphasis is on dog fighting tactics, while facing pilots acting as aggressors, in simulation of potential enemy air wings and aircraft. There is a lot of crosstraining between the services. However, there is a difference in philosophy of their roles. Because of circumstances, naval aviation operates in smaller size units and tend to be less doctrinal in thinking. They are centered around 2 plane combat combinations, whereas the Air Force tends to center their tactics around bigger groupings and tends to be formalized in who is making the decisions in combat. It's not a hard and fast thing, though and depends on the mission and the aircraft involved. By the same token, in the Special Operations world, there is a lot of overlap between services and much crosstraining and joint command operations. It kind of started in Vietnam, with the CIA-run Special Operations Group (or Studies and Operations Group, as it was rebranded), with personnel drawn from both the Green Berets and the Navy SEAL teams, though rarely in the same operation. It happened, but not often. Of course, for the US military, the most famous combined operation was the Doolittle Raid, where US Army Air Force B-25 bombers were flown off the USS Hornet, to carry out strikes on the home islands of Japan. The USAAF pilots had never made carrier launches and usually lifted off from much longer runways. They first had to conduct tests to see if it was even feasible. A carrier could get them within striking range, but carrier based aircraft didn't have the range to get close enough to Japan, without greatly endangering the carrier, while the bombers had no bases within range of Japan. That's why Doolittle got the mission, as he was a noted pilot and aeronautical expert. The figured out how much distance they needed to take off and how high to rev the engines to achieve the right thrust and lift to get them airborne, in that distance, within the limitations of the flight deck of the Hornet. It was a hell of a feet, even if it was more of a morale-boosting stunt than a strategic maneuver. Same with the Makin Island Raid, by Carson's Raiders (who were Marines, trained to operate as a raiding force, based on the Mao model, in China). It basically proved that unconventional tactics could put the enemy on the defensive and give the Allies some breathing room, while they built their forces and prepared counter-strikes and invasions. Same thing with the SAS, in North Africa, as they struck out of the desert at the airfields and supply depots for the Afrika Korps, reducing their air support and adding to their logistics problems, while also forcing them to commit more of their troops to safeguarding rear areas and weakening their front lines.
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Post by berkley on Apr 27, 2023 17:12:18 GMT -5
I finished the first seasons of North of 60 and Highlander - I ended up finding both on archive.org with better picture quality than the videos they have on youtube, especially for Highlander. The latter improved steadily over the course of the season but I'm still not sure I'd recommend it to anyone who wasn't already a fan of the movie and the general concept. I had a lot of fun watching it, myself.
North of 60 is still in its early stages when much of the focus is on the white urban cop out of his element in this northern rural indigenous community. But it's still an excellent show, the cop doesn't have the spotlight all to himself, and even when he does it's more about him having to learn to adapt than anything else. The characters and storylines are a refreshing change from the usual mass-market cop shows.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2023 17:18:00 GMT -5
Been watching Twilight Zone before I head to bed, been a nice little ritual. Had the complete series box set for years, but never touched it
I celebrated many New Year's Days watching the 24 hour Twilight Zone Marathon on Sci-Fi channel
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Post by Batflunkie on Apr 27, 2023 17:47:34 GMT -5
Been watching Twilight Zone before I head to bed, been a nice little ritual. Had the complete series box set for years, but never touched it
I celebrated many New Year's Days watching the 24 hour Twilight Zone Marathon on Sci-Fi channel
As much as Syfy has changed, it does my dork heart good to still see them doing that
And it's funny too because I almost always see an episode that I've never seen before alongside the classics
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Post by berkley on Apr 28, 2023 0:23:27 GMT -5
I celebrated many New Year's Days watching the 24 hour Twilight Zone Marathon on Sci-Fi channel
As much as Syfy has changed, it does my dork heart good to still see them doing that
And it's funny too because I almost always see an episode that I've never seen before alongside the classics
I'll be starting this show too sometime in the near future and I'm not sure what I'm looking forward to more, seeing favourite episodes again or coming upon one that I've never seen before.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2023 12:55:10 GMT -5
I still don’t know what the difference between a police commissioner and chief of police is, though. This will help: work.chron.com/police-commissioners-job-25236.html"Police departments around the U.S. call their top police officer by different titles, which can be confusing. Not all police departments have police commissioners. For some cities and towns, the police chief is the top officer. Others call their top officer the police commissioner, but the job is more like that of the police chief. Only a few large cities have both a police commissioner and a police chief, but when they do, the commissioner is the top brass." In Portland, the nearest big city to me, the mayor is also the police commissioner, and there's a police chief. PS. Blue Bloods is a good show. It's still running. I’m enjoying Blue Bloods very much. I know why, too. In addition to great stories, there are characters I can care about. I enjoy the dinner table moments, as Commissioner Reagan and his family bicker, put the world to rights, etc. Every character is fleshed out. I couldn’t really get into the likes of Law & Order: SVU, CSI: Miami and others because those shows gave me no reason to care about the characters. I know they are plot-driven, but when you tune into yet another story about murder or armed robbery, well, without the characters to care about, it becomes tedious and mundane. Some of my favourite action shows as a kid were Knight Rider and The A-Team. I’m not comparing those to detective shows, but I wasn’t watching those shows for the plots. I wanted to see the interactions between characters, whether it be Michael Knight arguing with KITT, B.A. and Murdock arguing, etc. With detective shows, one murder storyline is pretty much like another. Law & Order: SVU features plots that I feel are indistinguishable from another. While I’m sure there probably has been personal stuff at times, all that I saw were plot-driven episodes. And when a character has served a warrant yet again, what’s the hook? Hell, even wrestling has to be about characters, there has to be a reason to care why people are doing this or that. Totally plot-driven shows interest me less than shows that make you care about the characters.
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 29, 2023 20:11:19 GMT -5
This will help: work.chron.com/police-commissioners-job-25236.html"Police departments around the U.S. call their top police officer by different titles, which can be confusing. Not all police departments have police commissioners. For some cities and towns, the police chief is the top officer. Others call their top officer the police commissioner, but the job is more like that of the police chief. Only a few large cities have both a police commissioner and a police chief, but when they do, the commissioner is the top brass." In Portland, the nearest big city to me, the mayor is also the police commissioner, and there's a police chief. PS. Blue Bloods is a good show. It's still running. I’m enjoying Blue Bloods very much. I know why, too. In addition to great stories, there are characters I can care about. I enjoy the dinner table moments, as Commissioner Reagan and his family bicker, put the world to rights, etc. Every character is fleshed out. I couldn’t really get into the likes of Law & Order: SVU, CSI: Miami and others because those shows gave me no reason to care about the characters. I know they are plot-driven, but when you tune into yet another story about murder or armed robbery, well, without the characters to care about, it becomes tedious and mundane. Some of my favourite action shows as a kid were Knight Rider and The A-Team. I’m not comparing those to detective shows, but I wasn’t watching those shows for the plots. I wanted to see the interactions between characters, whether it be Michael Knight arguing with KITT, B.A. and Murdock arguing, etc. With detective shows, one murder storyline is pretty much like another. Law & Order: SVU features plots that I feel are indistinguishable from another. While I’m sure there probably has been personal stuff at times, all that I saw were plot-driven episodes. And when a character has served a warrant yet again, what’s the hook? Hell, even wrestling has to be about characters, there has to be a reason to care why people are doing this or that. Totally plot-driven shows interest me less than shows that make you care about the characters. You might have enjoyed more 70s police show fare, like Starsky & Hutch, Baretta, SWAT, The Rookies or Police Woman. They all had interesting characters and a rich collection of them, in episodic stories. SWAT had plenty of gun play and was considered the most violent show of its time, though at least they could actually hit the bad guys, when they shot at them (or vice versa). the A-Team could have been standing inside a barn and fire their weapons on full auto and still never hit anything, including the walls or ceiling. Not to mention I don't recall anyone ever reloading. How do you get 1500 rounds out of a 30-round magazine? Even cowboy films could count better than that! They also had a van, before the A-Team (a delivery van type, which we called The UPS Truck, since it was the same type that UPS used for deliveries, in those days). Robert Urich was about the only one of note in the series, as Steve Forrest had a deep voice, but was pretty one-note, as an actor. Starsky & Hutch were an interesting pair of detectives, with their Gran Torino car tearing across the street, plus Antonio Vargas, as Huggy Bear and the guy who played their boss. Baretta had all kinds of colorful characters, from his boss, to snitches, to the crooks, to his pet cockatoo, Fred. Plus, he had an iconic theme song, from Sammy Davis Jr. The Rookies was more serious, but well written and acted adn SWAT was spun off from it, though it didn't last as long. Police Woman had Angie Dickinson, who was way sexier than Charlie's Angels (she came across less innocent) and the rest of the team was pretty good, especially Earl Holliman, as her boss. A really good one, from that era, was Police Story, which was an anthology series, about different police officers. It was created by Joseph Wambaugh, an ex-cop and best selling novelist (New Centurions, The Onion Fields, The Blue Knight). The series was noted for its grittier realism, compared to other cop shows out there and being less hero worshipping, than Jack Webb's shows (Dragnet, Adam-12, Emergency).
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2023 4:47:17 GMT -5
You’ll be pleased to know, codystarbuck , that I am the proud owner of Starsky and Hutch on DVD. As for Baretta, SWAT, The Rookie and Police Woman, I haven’t seen those (I’ve seen a small number of episodes of the modern incarnation of SWAT on Netflix). That got me thinking: I saw police divers in an episode of The Equalizer recently. I wonder, in the real world, do SWAT officers and police divers do regular police work between their specialist duties? Bank robberies and hostage situations aren’t necessarily an everyday occurrence, and I can’t imagine a police force letting its SWAT officers sit around waiting for a case which requires their specialisation. I remember reading about how the police force in my city had an Underwater Search Unit. I couldn’t imagine there’d be a daily need for cops to search canals and rivers. I certainly couldn’t imagine them sitting around for days (or weeks), waiting for a call about some missing body. I would have imagined they’d do regular police duties at other times.
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Post by codystarbuck on May 1, 2023 11:04:27 GMT -5
You’ll be pleased to know, codystarbuck , that I am the proud owner of Starsky and Hutch on DVD. As for Baretta, SWAT, The Rookie and Police Woman, I haven’t seen those (I’ve seen a small number of episodes of the modern incarnation of SWAT on Netflix). That got me thinking: I saw police divers in an episode of The Equalizer recently. I wonder, in the real world, do SWAT officers and police divers do regular police work between their specialist duties? Bank robberies and hostage situations aren’t necessarily an everyday occurrence, and I can’t imagine a police force letting its SWAT officers sit around waiting for a case which requires their specialisation. I remember reading about how the police force in my city had an Underwater Search Unit. I couldn’t imagine there’d be a daily need for cops to search canals and rivers. I certainly couldn’t imagine them sitting around for days (or weeks), waiting for a call about some missing body. I would have imagined they’d do regular police duties at other times. No experience with that; but, I suspect that it depends on whether it is a dedicated unit or a special pool of qualified officers. For the latter, you might have a group of officers who are certified police divers, who are called in when needed, and perform regular duties outside those situations. If it is a dedicated division, then you have equipment maintenance, physical training, dive training, requalification, course work and other things related to the job to keep you busy. For a dedicated team, you would likely have a sustained, demonstrated need. Probably cities around major bodies of water. In other areas, the county or state police might provide divers wherever needed.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2023 12:46:41 GMT -5
On this day 40 years ago, V: The Mini-Series debuted on NBC: I’m certain you’re all familiar with this series, which saw alien visitors (reptiles in disguise) arriving on Earth, with seemingly noble intentions - until they use propaganda and control to slowly take over society, turning the US into a dictatorship. This leads to the likes of cameraman Mike Donovan and mercenary Ham Tyler forming a resistance, along with a Fifth Column of Visitors. As a kid, I was only interested in the action and seeing the good guys battle the reptiles (those scenes where the visitors’ true faces were revealed are scary!). Thankfully, when I saw it as an adult thanks to VHS and DVD, I was able to appreciate the social commentary and depth. I believe this would probably stand up well if viewed in 2023. I did like what followed, The Final Battle, but V: The Series, whilst entertaining, is the “Earth 2” of the V universe, if you ask me; it’s more akin to The A-Team, it contradicts the mini-series, and lacks any depth or social commentary.
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