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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 11:43:15 GMT -5
I haven't seen The Exorcist either, and I wonder if seeing it parodied so much will ruin it for me. As I've noted before, that's precisely why I've never gotten around to watching Rosemary's Baby. With The Exorcist, even though I didn't see it till about 4 years after it came out (my mother wouldn't let me; finally, after I started college, it was screened for probably Halloween on campus), I did at least read the novel when it was riding high on the best-seller charts.
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Post by MDG on Oct 27, 2014 12:08:14 GMT -5
Has this one come out legitimately yet? It was one of the first "gray-market" VHSes I ever bought after I learned about their availability via the classifieds in the back of Fangoria a decade ago. Legitimately? I don't know, but, the internet.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 12:09:57 GMT -5
Yeah, that occurred to me after I asked the question. Still waiting for at least two from the '50s that have eluded me forever to show up on YouTube -- I've Lived Before & The Whip Hand.
One of these years ...
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Post by shaxper on Oct 27, 2014 20:11:37 GMT -5
Okay, I've gone back and deleted most of our initial conversation (as promised) so that people's reserved posts would be at the top of the thread. Right now, I count 8 participants (with Coke & Comics as a possible 9th) which sounds like a good size for this experiment. Let the conversation continue! And, incidentally, I'm watching Scream Blacula Scream right now on Jesse412's recommendation
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Post by berkley on Oct 27, 2014 23:42:10 GMT -5
I haven't seen The Exorcist either, and I wonder if seeing it parodied so much will ruin it for me. As I've noted before, that's precisely why I've never gotten around to watching Rosemary's Baby. With The Exorcist, even though I didn't see it till about 4 years after it came out (my mother wouldn't let me; finally, after I started college, it was screened for probably Halloween on campus), I did at least read the novel when it was riding high on the best-seller charts. I never saw either Rosemary's Baby or The Exorcist until a few years ago, and enjoyed them thoroughly, in spite of feeling like I already knew them both through MAD magazine parodies and the like. These are expertly-crafted films, so they're worth watching on that score alone, but the tension and fear still worked at a visceral level too, so it wasn't just a cold, academic exercise And I too did read The Exorcist a a kid - I think sometime in the mid-70s, probably a few years after it was on the best-seller list. I know it was at least a couple years after the movie was out. Certainly one of the scariest reading experiences I can recall. I'm old enough to remember the incredible media furor over the movie of The Exorcist - there were discussion programs that would devote practically an entire episode to talking about it and some of the stories (urban myths?) of the reactions of audiences and some individuals were almost as scary as the movie itself seemed to be to 11 or 12 year old me. It made the Devil seem like a real-world terror. I still think that for anyone who - like most of us here, probably - was brought up in the West (however you care to define that), even if you don't count yourself as a believer, supernatural horror stories based on Judaeo-Christian mythology will almost always strike a deeper chord than anything else, just because we absorbed it as kids from before we were old enough to think. And for people of my age or older (not so sure about those younger than myself), all that was taken much more seriously back then, even if your family weren't particular religious, as mine weren't. It was just an accepted part of the background, it was just there. So I'd say that for many, if not most, people from the West who grew up in that era, for a certain time in their childhood, even if it was only until they were old enough to examine it make up their own mind, God and Jesus and the Devil were about as real as the Prime Minister or New York City or anything else you accepted as existing without ever having seen it. So stuff like the Exorcist or even The Omen had a certain resonance that I think is hard to match without playing on those same deeply embedded concepts.
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Post by shaxper on Oct 28, 2014 4:47:29 GMT -5
The reason I've never seen the Exorcist is that my wife grew up in a staunchly conservative Catholic household and, while she's a very open-minded person, the idea of bringing a film about Satanic possession into our household made her uncomfortable. Just last week, she decided she's okay with it now, so I'll get around to it soon, but for years she asked me not to watch it in our house. Being that she's pretty much never asked me not to watch/buy/do something outside of this one request, I felt inclined to honor it.
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Post by shaxper on Oct 28, 2014 16:40:38 GMT -5
Just finished watching Curse of Frankenstein for the second time tonight, and I still don't get it. The story is decently engaging, and that one shot revealing Christopher Lee was phenomenal, but beyond that, Christopher Lee doesn't do anything all that impressive as the monster, and the interpretation of the story is noteworthy only in the back story it provides for Frankenstein, explaining why he's so cold and detached to people. Much as I love Peter Cushing, he's no Colin Clive, and as groundbreaking as the use of technicolor blood might have been to 1957, I still find it less scary than the moody atmosphere and loud buzzing machines of James Whale's films.
As an avid fan of the Hammer Dracula films, I just don't understand what's so great about this one, and people continuously say it's the best of the Hammer Frankenstein films, so I'm wary of pressing on with the franchise.
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Post by Jesse on Oct 28, 2014 18:44:50 GMT -5
Dracula is definitely the better franchise despite some of the sequels being pretty bad. I think the reason Curse gets so much praise is that it was the first of Hammer Films' horror movies in color as well as some of the earliest gore on film. Overall I think it's pretty solid even if it's not nearly a good as the James Whales films.
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Post by shaxper on Oct 28, 2014 18:46:42 GMT -5
Dracula is definitely the better franchise despite some of the sequels being pretty bad. I think the reason Curse gets so much praise is that it was the first of Hammer Films' horror movies in color as well as some of the earliest gore on film. Overall I think it's pretty solid even if it's not nearly a good as the James Whales films. I can agree with all of that. Except that the Hammer Dracula sequels were poor. While I agree nothing lived up to the first two in terms of writing and complexity, I find them ALL to be great fun except for Satanic Rites, which I consider pretty much unwatchable. So what about the Frankenstein sequels? Worthwhile?
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Post by Jesse on Oct 28, 2014 19:03:13 GMT -5
I can agree with all of that. Except that the Hammer Dracula sequels were poor. While I agree nothing lived up to the first two in terms of writing and complexity, I find them ALL to be great fun except for Satanic Rites, which I consider pretty much unwatchable. Satanic Rites is the one I was thinking of that was pretty bad. So what about the Frankenstein sequels? Worthwhile? I've only watched The Evil of Frankenstein and Frankenstein Created Woman which were decent. I think I've seen parts of Frankenstein Must Be Destroyed before but don't remember much of it. I'll pretty much check out anything by Terence Fisher or with Peter Cushing.
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Post by MDG on Oct 29, 2014 8:21:13 GMT -5
I've never been a big fan of Hammer, though I really think I'm just not a fan of the big two series, Frankenstein and Dracula (though Cushing is always good. I don't agree with the Hammer take on Dr. Frankenstein).
I also re-watched Black Sabbath the other night while scooping out pumpkins. It's an amazingly well-made film, and probably Karloff's last great performance (excepting Targets and the Grinch).
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Post by coke & comics on Oct 29, 2014 12:00:57 GMT -5
And the World Series continues into tonight. One more night I won't be watching a horror movie.
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Post by shaxper on Oct 29, 2014 16:00:55 GMT -5
I also re-watched Black Sabbath the other night while scooping out pumpkins. It's an amazingly well-made film, and probably Karloff's last great performance (excepting Targets and the Grinch). The final story in the film positively floored me, but I couldn't get into the first two.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2014 19:08:05 GMT -5
The Changeling (1979) is possibly the creepiest movie I've ever seen. Will give this a watch tonight. For added effect, turn of all lights...
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Post by shaxper on Oct 29, 2014 19:34:21 GMT -5
The Changeling (1979) is possibly the creepiest movie I've ever seen. Will give this a watch tonight. For added effect, turn of all lights... Count me intrigued. There are so few horror films out there that...well... scare me.
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