Crimebuster
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Post by Crimebuster on Feb 22, 2021 18:04:57 GMT -5
To me though, Wandavision has caused some pretty rampant spec. A couple key people on Youtube posed a theory one week and the next, people were paying $50-60 on Ebay for a book that was once $10-15 tops. They seem legitimate folks but they can clearly manipulate the market if they choose. Like any hobby, there are varying levels of fandom and I would argue that comics, within the last decade, has an influx of newer collectors. They come with base knowledge or low level knowledge and feed off what other perceived experts tell them. It's crazy and does suck because even though a certain character may never appear ever (or for years to come), that initial bump tends to never truly fall back. It becomes a book people know about and convince themselves to care because it is a first appearance, so thus it has to be worth $30-50 or more. A bunch of the WandaVision spec books are pure silliness and I expect many of them to drop most if not all of the way back down once those characters end up not having any importance. I do think Silver Surfer #3 will maintain a lot of the price gains. I also think Amazing Spider-Man Annual #16 is going to stay up there. I think it's clear that they have bigger plans for Monica in the broader MCU, which is great. I am a fan of the character in the comics, and I really like the character in the show a lot too. I think she's the breakout character. There's at least one Monica book that is still dirt cheap that I think might have some movement, but I need to buy up six hundred copies before I start pumping the prices on it. |
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Post by Confessor on Feb 22, 2021 18:19:51 GMT -5
I honestly don't think I've ever speculated on a comic in my life. I've only ever bought comics to read and collect. If I found that I didn't enjoy a particular comic, I might sell it or trade it in at a comic shop for some other issues, but we're not talking big money or anything. Even with certain comics I have that have risen in value in recent years, I have no plans to sell them because I'd rather continue to own them and re-read them.
The whole concept of speculating on a comic is foreign to me. Not that I have a problem with other people doing it (well, unless I'm after an issue and the prices suddenly go through the roof), but it's just not something I ever do.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2021 21:14:18 GMT -5
I honestly don't think I've ever speculated on a comic in my life. I've only ever bought comics to read and collect.
I've found speculating, and consequently, flipping a hot book helps to subsidize the indented part above. A fun part of the hobby, at least for me, is when it helps pay for itself.
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Post by Confessor on Feb 22, 2021 21:33:48 GMT -5
I honestly don't think I've ever speculated on a comic in my life. I've only ever bought comics to read and collect. I've found speculating, and consequently, flipping a hot book helps to subsidize the indented part above. A fun part of the hobby, at least for me, is when it helps pay for itself.
Fair enough. It's just not the way I think when it comes to comics. |
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Post by The Captain on Feb 22, 2021 21:34:29 GMT -5
I don't necessarily speculate on books, but if I can buy a book that I know is underpriced and then flip it, I will do so.
Oddball books like Darkhawk #49 and #50 can be found, if one is willing to hunt, in $1 boxes, and these sell from anywhere from $10 - $50 on eBay. They had very low print runs as they were the last two issues in the series, so I'll buy them any chance I get and resell them.
I won't, however, buy a book that has a character that is rumored, by one guy from his mom's basement in Peoria, Illinois, to maybe be appearing in a future movie (or now TV show). Once said rumor is confirmed, if it can still be had cheap, then I'll buy it, but I can't afford to buy piles of books to sit on hoping they get hot.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2021 23:25:37 GMT -5
I don't necessarily speculate on books, but if I can buy a book that I know is underpriced and then flip it, I will do so.
I was casually browsing ebay and noticed....huh??? An Ultimate Spider-Man #1 DF cover that no one else seemed to notice and picked it up for $27...a steal. Resold it for a flat hundred and the buyer thought that was a great deal. Win:Win
And $73 left for the comic kitty.
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Post by The Captain on Feb 23, 2021 8:28:44 GMT -5
I don't necessarily speculate on books, but if I can buy a book that I know is underpriced and then flip it, I will do so.
I was casually browsing ebay and noticed....huh??? An Ultimate Spider-Man #1 DF cover that no one else seemed to notice and picked it up for $27...a steal. Resold it for a flat hundred and the buyer thought that was a great deal. Win:Win
And $73 left for the comic kitty.
This is exactly what I'm talking about. Nice grab. My philosophy is this. If a seller (particularly in a store) has put a price on something, it is not my job to tell him (or her) that he has undervalued it; it's up to them to know what the market is doing and what the prices of books are at that moment. One time I did tell a seller their book was undervalued happened about 20 years ago. I was at a rummage sale in a church basement, and there was this cute little old lady with a stack of comics at her table. Lot of Archies and Gold Key books that I really didn't have any interest in, but there was a copy of Amazing Spider-Man #150 in really nice condition toward the bottom of the stack. I asked what she wanted for it, and she said "all of the comics are $.50". Being in a church and all (and my newly-married wife was with me), I replied that the book was easily worth 40x that amount, so if she wanted to up the price, I'd let her. She smiled and told me that the comics were her late husband's and that he would want them to go to someone who loved them as much as he did, and while she thanked me for being honest, she kept the price at $.50. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 23, 2021 9:51:54 GMT -5
Who doesn’t like a bargain? I have many books that I could flip but I just don’t like dealing with eBay these days.
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Post by MDG on Feb 23, 2021 10:12:43 GMT -5
Terry Beatty's been talking on Facebook how Batman Beyond #1 has suddenly shot up. A slabbed copy went for over $2K.
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Post by badwolf on Feb 23, 2021 10:33:10 GMT -5
Because I recently got the John Byrne MU omnibus, I sold my copy of Avengers #187. I hadn't even thought of the WandaVision thing because I am so out of touch with that stuff now. Are they doing the Chthon story? This person did not buy #185 but maybe he already had it. (I'm not selling #186 because I'm nostalgic about it; a friend had it when I was a kid and I think it might have been the first Avengers I read--I know that for a while that team was "my" Avengers.)
I also sold Moon Knight #1 for about $35 (because I got that omnibus too.) I gather there is a TV show now?
I don't speculate though... if I happen to have something valuable or desirable it's pure chance. They only time I remember doing this, and buying two copies instead of one, was when Man of Steel #1 came out. Of course, everyone else bought it too so it didn't go anywhere. Great comic, not valuable.
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Post by DubipR on Feb 23, 2021 11:37:27 GMT -5
Terry Beatty's been talking on Facebook how Batman Beyond #1 has suddenly shot up. A slabbed copy went for over $2K. Yeah. It's nuts. Just because the new Batman will have Terry McGuiniss the back issues shot up. It's the same with any property that's been licensed for film or TV. Back issues of Fantastic Four 94 have exploded with WandaVision as well in the past week. With all the upcoming things happening at Disney Plus, the possibility of any character's first appearance is going up. It's BS market that ruined comics in the 90s. Want to know what's really nuts these days? Non-Sports trading cards. All of those Marvel and DC trading card sets you have in your closet still are actually sellable. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 23, 2021 11:40:22 GMT -5
Terry Beatty's been talking on Facebook how Batman Beyond #1 has suddenly shot up. A slabbed copy went for over $2K. Yeah. It's nuts. Just because the new Batman will have Terry McGuiniss the back issues shot up. It's the same with any property that's been licensed for film or TV. Back issues of Fantastic Four 94 have exploded with WandaVision as well in the past week. With all the upcoming things happening at Disney Plus, the possibility of any character's first appearance is going up. It's BS market that ruined comics in the 90s. Want to know what's really nuts these days? Non-Sports trading cards. All of those Marvel and DC trading card sets you have in your closet still are actually sellable. That's good to know about the non sports cards. I have sets of those from the 90's collecting dust. |
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Post by DubipR on Feb 23, 2021 11:44:08 GMT -5
Yeah. It's nuts. Just because the new Batman will have Terry McGuiniss the back issues shot up. It's the same with any property that's been licensed for film or TV. Back issues of Fantastic Four 94 have exploded with WandaVision as well in the past week. With all the upcoming things happening at Disney Plus, the possibility of any character's first appearance is going up. It's BS market that ruined comics in the 90s. Want to know what's really nuts these days? Non-Sports trading cards. All of those Marvel and DC trading card sets you have in your closet still are actually sellable. That's good to know about the non sports cards. I have sets of those from the 90's collecting dust. Look at eBay and other auction places and see what's been sold (not selling) and you'll plotz. |
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Post by The Captain on Feb 23, 2021 11:51:48 GMT -5
Terry Beatty's been talking on Facebook how Batman Beyond #1 has suddenly shot up. A slabbed copy went for over $2K. Yeah. It's nuts. Just because the new Batman will have Terry McGuiniss the back issues shot up. It's the same with any property that's been licensed for film or TV. Back issues of Fantastic Four 94 have exploded with WandaVision as well in the past week. With all the upcoming things happening at Disney Plus, the possibility of any character's first appearance is going up. It's BS market that ruined comics in the 90s.Want to know what's really nuts these days? Non-Sports trading cards. All of those Marvel and DC trading card sets you have in your closet still are actually sellable. IRT the bolded, they're two entirely different things. I actually worked in comic book shops for two years in the early 90s, and we couldn't GIVE away back issues, first appearances or not. Even books like Iron Man #55 and Werewolf by Night #32 were tepid at best, and books like Avengers #196 and Ms. Marvel #18 were $1 bin fodder. What ruined comics in the 90s were multiple covers, gimmick covers, polybagging, and the like. We could sell that crap all day long without any problem. The store I worked at in college (93/94) could order 500 copies of a holo-foil Avengers cover (like #366) and be left with fewer than 10 of them at the end of the month. Death of Superman? We ordered over 1000 of the black polybagged versions and ran out within the first 24 hours, and the town my college was in only had 1800 residents and 14K students at the school; people were driving in from hours away later that week thinking they could scoop them up only to find our shelves were bare. |
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Post by james on Feb 23, 2021 15:09:15 GMT -5
I have several comics that I bought at cover or a few bucks more that over the years that have shot up in price
Avengers 196 100.00
Avengers Annual 10 75.00
Captain Marvel 27 40.00
And each is still exactly where it should be, in my collection. I have even reread them a couple times over the years. God Forfend!!!
But I'll be honest if I had 2 or more copies of any of these I would definitely flip a couple.
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