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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 20, 2021 6:49:46 GMT -5
I searched for a similar thread and couldn't find one.
I haven't watched one episode of Wanda vision yet but I keep getting spoiled about some events. I was looking at eBay and saw that Avengers # 227 is jumping in price. With 11 hours left a copy in the raw is at 26 dollars. Spider-man Annual # 16 ( first Monica Rambeau) is going for over 100. I saw a 9.2 in the raw, sold for 149.
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Post by DrakeTungsten on Feb 20, 2021 9:16:59 GMT -5
This is a fun subject to gripe about, that has been pertinent to me over the past year. There were a couple issues of Star Wars Tales (the Dark Horse anthology) I finally got around to searching for to complete my collection. It turns out both of these are key issues somehow, I think they both happen to be the first appearances of two separate characters who show up in other media, going for hundreds. Forget it. These jackholes aren't freakin' reading these comics, man. Not when the issues surrounding them can be had for under ten bucks.
I also discovered I was missing an issue of She-Hulk, but my timing sucked, because the prices for She-Hulk are rising, and this issue in particular seemed to be pricier than the rest. I did eventually get it from somebody who was charging a normal price, though. Just when I had written this issue off as one I'd have to wait years until the speculation ceases on it.
I've been waiting for years for a second printing of the Death Of Captain America omnibus, which has finally been announced for later this year. I take delight at seeing the the ebay price-gougers who suddenly cut their asking prices in half for this. No, I'm not buying from them now, not unless they're going to take an obvious loss by selling to me. I can wait until the fall to get my copy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2021 10:09:06 GMT -5
You Want How Much, located here was the previous speculation observation/complaint/rant thread if anyone is curious and wants to read previous discussions on the matter. -M
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Feb 20, 2021 15:56:42 GMT -5
I searched for a similar thread and couldn't find one. I haven't watched one episode of Wanda vision yet but I keep getting spoiled about some events. I was looking at eBay and saw that Avengers # 227 is jumping in price. With 11 hours left a copy in the raw is at 26 dollars. Spider-man Annual # 16 ( first Monica Rambeau) is going for over 100. I saw a 9.2 in the raw, sold for 149. There are a dozen books Wandavision and people on the inter webs are trying to give traction to because of the show. Craziness! People paying $400-600 for a book that last year this time was only $10-20 or so. And with a character who I don’t think we see beyond this show! (I won’t say which book or character so as not to spoil further)
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Post by SJNeal on Feb 21, 2021 0:53:02 GMT -5
I also discovered I was missing an issue of She-Hulk, but my timing sucked, because the prices for She-Hulk are rising, and this issue in particular seemed to be pricier than the rest. I did eventually get it from somebody who was charging a normal price, though. Just when I had written this issue off as one I'd have to wait years until the speculation ceases on it. I've been waiting for years for a second printing of the Death Of Captain America omnibus, which has finally been announced for later this year. I take delight at seeing the the ebay price-gougers who suddenly cut their asking prices in half for this. No, I'm not buying from them now, not unless they're going to take an obvious loss by selling to me. I can wait until the fall to get my copy. I haven't looked into the Slott or PAD issues, but Byrne's Sensational back issues have been quite pricey for a long time now. Oddly enough, even the release of the omnibus hasn't seemed to drop prices at all. And yes, there's something quite satisfying about seeing the speculators beaten at their own game when the reprints drop  .
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Post by jason on Feb 21, 2021 1:06:19 GMT -5
This makes me wonder, did Riverdale cause older Archie books to suddenly increase? I dont just mean the really old 40s-50s ones, I mean the (previously) common as dirt ones from the 70s-2000s.
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Post by SJNeal on Feb 21, 2021 1:22:02 GMT -5
This makes me wonder, did Riverdale cause older Archie books to suddenly increase? I dont just mean the really old 40s-50s ones, I mean the (previously) common as dirt ones from the 70s-2000s. It may have. I haven't searched for Archie back issues in... 20 yrs? And then it was for some of the oddball stuff I remember liking in the late 80's/early 90's like Archie 3000, Jughead's Diner and Time Police, etc. and most of it was available for little more than cover price. But now I'm curious... *heads to eBay*
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 21, 2021 11:29:17 GMT -5
This makes me wonder, did Riverdale cause older Archie books to suddenly increase? I dont just mean the really old 40s-50s ones, I mean the (previously) common as dirt ones from the 70s-2000s. I suspect more the recent era stuff, like the alternate future Archie and some of the crossovers and stunts; but, probably not as much on the rank and file comics. Probably two different markets: Classic Archie collectors and the curious from the tv show.
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Post by Crimebuster on Feb 21, 2021 11:39:20 GMT -5
Riverdale didn't seem to have any noticeable effect on back issue prices that I could see. The possible exception being Jughead Double Digest #176, which is the first appearance of Toni Topaz. She has a much bigger role on the show than in the comics and it's not an easy issue to find, so there seemed to be a jump in price for that issue. But otherwise, I personally didn't notice anything.
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Post by james on Feb 21, 2021 14:35:06 GMT -5
Interested in seeing how WCA 42-50 jumps in price
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Post by brutalis on Feb 21, 2021 15:34:04 GMT -5
Speculating has always been about buying up ANY object in order to turn a larger profit on it. Now that comic books are in the movies and television consciousness of darn EVERY person on the face of Earth, everyone with money to burn Hope's to cash in on the "next" big thing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2021 23:41:52 GMT -5
Speculating has always been about buying up ANY object in order to turn a larger profit on it. Now that comic books are in the movies and television consciousness of darn EVERY person on the face of Earth, everyone with money to burn Hope's to cash in on the "next" big thing. Speculating has been a part of comic fandom for a long time. When I was in high school and first discovered an lcs circa '84-'85, it was pretty much standard for just about everyone who had X-Men on their pull list, to have 2 copies pulled, one to read and one to bag and board to sell later when it went up in value. I even knew a kid who ordered an entire case of Man of Steel #1 because he thought Byrne's Superman was going to be the next big thing. But goes earlier than that too. I remember when reading an early issue of Warlord, someone on the letters pages was talking about going around and buying up all the copies of Warlord #3 (I think that was the issue he mentioned, if not it was one of those early issues), so he could flip them for more money in a few years. Robert Beerbohm often posts his memories of starting as a comic seller and how he speculated on certain Marvel book in the 60s and early 70s by ordering hundreds of copies of each that he could sell at shows and through mail order at a profit over the span of a few years. So let's not kid ourselves that speculation on comics started with the 90s speculator boom and bust or that comics or comic collecting were ruined by speculators and was some "pure" pursuit before that. Speculation has been part and parcel of comics since collecting comics was a thing. Sure it may be more prevalent today, and certainly seems more onerous, but it's as much a part of the comics landscape as Overstreet Guides, the Robert Bell mail order catalog, and other parts of the collecting hobby. It sucks when books you are looking for get speculator bumps, and it may not make sense to some why some books jump in value because of some outside factor (movies or TV appearance, news story, etc.), but comic prices have always been determined by demand, and increases in demand, whether artificial or natural are going to cause fluctuations in prices, but prices are in flux for lots of different reasons and many of those other reasons don't make sense either, but they too are part and parcel of the market for comics. -M
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2021 0:36:38 GMT -5
Speculators suck and must die.
Still sucking and dying so sue me.....
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Feb 22, 2021 13:58:05 GMT -5
For me, time seems to engrain certain prices in my mind. For example, 10-15 years ago, when I was a teen collecting, Nova #1 could be had in great shape for under $10. My focus was not to Nova yet and so fast forward to recent years when I am trying to buy cosmic Marvel stuff and now it is a $30 book. But I could have had one for xxx amount! Now, it is even higher. I am not too worried as it is a book that I feel I will find one day...plenty out there. So I don't worry.
To me though, Wandavision has caused some pretty rampant spec. A couple key people on Youtube posed a theory one week and the next, people were paying $50-60 on Ebay for a book that was once $10-15 tops. They seem legitimate folks but they can clearly manipulate the market if they choose. Like any hobby, there are varying levels of fandom and I would argue that comics, within the last decade, has an influx of newer collectors. They come with base knowledge or low level knowledge and feed off what other perceived experts tell them. It's crazy and does suck because even though a certain character may never appear ever (or for years to come), that initial bump tends to never truly fall back. It becomes a book people know about and convince themselves to care because it is a first appearance, so thus it has to be worth $30-50 or more.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 22, 2021 15:59:30 GMT -5
Speculators suck and must die.
Still sucking and dying so sue me.....
Rags, I want you to live.
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