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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2014 12:57:07 GMT -5
Honestly, I hold no romantic idea that I'll ever sell my collection for a good price. It will be a bulk sale one day when I'm either too done with comics to care, or I'm dead and someone else is looking to unload them. Either way, we're gonna get screwed on the sale, so why bother obsessing over condition? I'm not sure why you have a 'pessimist' view on selling your books or anticipate a Chuck wannabe showing up at your front door. Didn't Ish sell his rather large collection and feel rather happy about his rate of return? Why do you think you'll get screwed? One day in the (hopefully) distant future, I'll be faced with a similar prospect. If my kids (have one so far, planning another) don't fancy comics, I'll be selling them, and hopefully getting them involved. It's a good way to teach business acumen. I try to keep my books in great shape, not just for personal taste but to maximise a sale if and when it's made. Which is why I don't flinch when I buy pricey books in high grade...I expect to at least recover what was initially spent if they have to be sold.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Nov 1, 2014 13:06:14 GMT -5
When I had my collection, everything from the 1960s and older where in heavy mylar sleeves-no backing boards required. 1970s books were in mylites. 1980s books-some bagged and some not. 95% of all 1990s and newer books were unbagged. The vast majority of these newer books will only ever sell for 25 cents each, and the vast majority will also never rise in price. To invest another 25 cents or more for a bag and board for these books will simply be throwing good money into a bad investment. Just read them and take careful care of them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2014 18:34:22 GMT -5
When I had my collection, everything from the 1960s and older where in heavy mylar sleeves-no backing boards required. 1970s books were in mylites. 1980s books-some bagged and some not. 95% of all 1990s and newer books were unbagged. The vast majority of these newer books will only ever sell for 25 cents each, and the vast majority will also never rise in price. To invest another 25 cents or more for a bag and board for these books will simply be throwing good money into a bad investment. Just read them and take careful care of them. Unless of course, your new issues come with a bag. Some of the better retailers (like Midtown) include one. Although they sent my last order in a box that could fit a tv in
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Nov 1, 2014 22:43:11 GMT -5
When I had my collection, everything from the 1960s and older where in heavy mylar sleeves-no backing boards required. 1970s books were in mylites. 1980s books-some bagged and some not. 95% of all 1990s and newer books were unbagged. The vast majority of these newer books will only ever sell for 25 cents each, and the vast majority will also never rise in price. To invest another 25 cents or more for a bag and board for these books will simply be throwing good money into a bad investment. Just read them and take careful care of them. Unless of course, your new issues come with a bag. Some of the better retailers (like Midtown) include one. Although they sent my last order in a box that could fit a tv in Hey, if they automatically come bagged, great. But I'd purchase comics new from Midtown in person off the rack and no bag was included. Only back issues were bagged. I did get their 20% off discount and no tax or shipping charges of course
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2014 0:01:11 GMT -5
My collection will go for peanuts too. I've thought of leaving notes in the more valuable comics and setting them aside in their own box, but haven't gotten around to it. I'd say 90% of my collection doesn't deserve more than peanuts, but the potential lost on the other 10% will be thousands of dollars.
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Post by hondobrode on Nov 2, 2014 0:50:04 GMT -5
I've got tens of thousands of comics, and have never bought bags or boards for any of them. If I happened to buy them that way, then fine.
Someone's going to figure something better than bags and tape. I hate dealing with that stupid tape.
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Post by Earth 2 Flash on Nov 2, 2014 0:56:00 GMT -5
I'm not sure why you have a 'pessimist' view on selling your books or anticipate a Chuck wannabe showing up at your front door. Didn't Ish sell his rather large collection and feel rather happy about his rate of return? Why do you think you'll get screwed? One day in the (hopefully) distant future, I'll be faced with a similar prospect. If my kids (have one so far, planning another) don't fancy comics, I'll be selling them, and hopefully getting them involved. It's a good way to teach business acumen. I try to keep my books in great shape, not just for personal taste but to maximise a sale if and when it's made. Which is why I don't flinch when I buy pricey books in high grade...I expect to at least recover what was initially spent if they have to be sold. I love your attitude, Bel. I hope you get a great price if and whenever that day comes.
In my case, I have decided to go a different route. I have been "recollecting" much of my comics collection digitally. I can't read my floppies anymore because of asthma. Whenever I get a digital version of something I own, I GIVE the floppy to a friend, daughter, or inlaw who can't afford comics. The happiness it brings them is worth much MORE than my investment (at least to me).
My three daughters all LOVE comics, and I didn't have to do ANYTHING to teach them to feel this way. I'd imagine your little ones will love comics too.
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Post by shaxper on Nov 2, 2014 8:31:19 GMT -5
Honestly, I hold no romantic idea that I'll ever sell my collection for a good price. It will be a bulk sale one day when I'm either too done with comics to care, or I'm dead and someone else is looking to unload them. Either way, we're gonna get screwed on the sale, so why bother obsessing over condition? I'm not sure why you have a 'pessimist' view on selling your books or anticipate a Chuck wannabe showing up at your front door. Didn't Ish sell his rather large collection and feel rather happy about his rate of return? Why do you think you'll get screwed? Because, from my perspective, the two most important factors when selling are infrastructure and timing. If you already have an established conduit for selling, whether through a dealer, a convention table, or ebay, it's far easier and less expensive to sell. As a collector and not a seller, infrastructure is not on my side. Trying to sell a handful of things on ebay is far more difficult than batch selling a dozen items each week (both in terms of cost and in dealing with buyers trying to kill your feedback), setting up at a convention table just for a one-time unload is going to be time intensive and impractical, and trying to sell to a dealer when you're not in the business isn't likely going to go your way either. Then there's timing. I don't intend to sell my books when they're hot. In fact, I don't plan to sell them at all, but when they ultimately get sold, it will be of necessity and not because it's the right time. The back issue market is doing extremely well in general right now. I see that. But as someone who doesn't regularly wheel and deal, getting a good return on my books is a very different challenge than it is for someone who buys and sells regularly, has established channels for doing so, and will likely sell their collection gradually, when it's the right time to sell Book A and not Book B. That isn't me. Everyone who bought comics in the 80s and 90s seemed to think they were making an investment in the future. When you consider the cost of bagging and boarding, and the time and money it will ultimately take to sell a large collection, the average collector just isn't going to come out ahead. Had I taken the money I put into my comics and invested it in the stock market, I could expect, on average, a 3 to 4 percent return on that investment each year, compounded. No way my comic collection is ever going to yield that kind of return. Maybe my ultra premium key issues, but not the bulk of the collection. And I'm okay with this. It takes the pressure off, really.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Nov 2, 2014 10:51:30 GMT -5
When I sold my collection, what I was most happiest about was that it would be to one person only, it was happening quickly after I decided to do it, the purchaser would do the entire physical work of moving it and that I would no longer have to pay $350 per month for storage space. The money part? Well it broke down to this: Books from 1989 and older- 50% of guide Books from 1990 to 2012-a wink and a nod, maybe a song and a dance Those recent books were valued as landfill. But I realized that if I wanted to get better prices for the collection (it was over 70,000 separate books) it might take a decade to sell to multiple,multiple people requiring much work and effort all the while continuing to pay my monthly storage fees. Those prospects were not enticing, I didn't want the sale of my collection turning into a full time job with its share of headaches,frustrations,dickering,arguments and E-bay shenanigans
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2014 13:26:28 GMT -5
If I were selling my collection I could squeeze the last cent out of it. It's work but if you need the money it's worth it.
If a family member were selling the collection I imagine they'd just get ripped off from some Craigslist snake or a comic shop owner.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2014 18:14:39 GMT -5
When I sold my collection, what I was most happiest about was that it would be to one person only, it was happening quickly after I decided to do it, the purchaser would do the entire physical work of moving it and that I would no longer have to pay $350 per month for storage space. The money part? Well it broke down to this: Books from 1989 and older- 50% of guide Books from 1990 to 2012-a wink and a nod, maybe a song and a dance Those recent books were valued as landfill. But I realized that if I wanted to get better prices for the collection (it was over 70,000 separate books) it might take a decade to sell to multiple,multiple people requiring much work and effort all the while continuing to pay my monthly storage fees. Those prospects were not enticing, I didn't want the sale of my collection turning into a full time job with its share of headaches,frustrations,dickering,arguments and E-bay shenanigans Good points here and I like what you are thinking here. 70,000 books Wow! ... I have 3,000 now!
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Post by The Captain on Nov 2, 2014 20:48:32 GMT -5
I bag everything, with mylar or mylites for the valuable stuff, depending on how valuable.
Boards are only for the valuable stuff as well, as they take up too much space and add too much weight to the drawers in my cabinets.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 19:48:10 GMT -5
Good points here and I like what you are thinking here. 70,000 books Wow! ... I have 3,000 now! Mine is inching closer to 6,000...mostly because over the past couple years my *recent issues* have ballooned.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 21:52:23 GMT -5
I think I have about 2000, but I don't keep an accurate count or inventory.
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Post by Confessor on Nov 5, 2014 6:48:09 GMT -5
I bag everything, but I only have boards in around two thirds of my collection (which is currently around 2,500 comic books in size). Comic series that I'm less keen on, but still like enough to keep, usually only get bagged, while the stuff that I really love or that is old and/or semi-valuable gets bagged and boarded.
I use bog standard polypropylene bags and acid free boards; I can count the number of comics that I have in Mylar on one hand.
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