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Post by Spike-X on Aug 8, 2017 19:46:11 GMT -5
I'm rooting for Sansa and Littlefinger. I'm rooting for something to happen to Littlefinger, but it isn't for him to either get his...hands...on Sansa (just creepy) or his rear on the Iron Throne. Wouldn't it be fun if he ends up getting stabbed by Arya with the dagger he gave to Bran, and that Bran gave it to Arya because he'd already seen her do it?
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Post by The Captain on Aug 8, 2017 19:52:23 GMT -5
I'm rooting for something to happen to Littlefinger, but it isn't for him to either get his...hands...on Sansa (just creepy) or his rear on the Iron Throne. Wouldn't it be fun if he ends up getting stabbed by Arya with the dagger he gave to Bran, and that Bran gave it to Arya because he'd already seen her do it? I thought that exact same thing when I watched it last night. Littlefinger thinks he's far more clever than everyone else, but he doesn't have any idea what Bran has seen in his visions, and I think that is going to come back and bite him in the ass.
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Post by Ozymandias on Aug 9, 2017 3:38:58 GMT -5
Wouldn't it be fun if he ends up getting stabbed by Arya with the dagger he gave to Bran, and that Bran gave it to Arya because he'd already seen her do it? Was he on her list? It's not like she dislikes the occasional murder, but first things first, right?
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Post by The Captain on Aug 9, 2017 4:37:13 GMT -5
Wouldn't it be fun if he ends up getting stabbed by Arya with the dagger he gave to Bran, and that Bran gave it to Arya because he'd already seen her do it? Was he on her list? It's not like she dislikes the occasional murder, but first things first, right? He wasn't on her original list, but when she learns of his roles of both helping Lysa kill Jon Arryn (which sent Robert to Ned in the first place) and in betraying Ned to the Lannisters, as well as it probably being him who sent the assassin to kill Bran, I suspect he's going to get a very prominent place on it.
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Post by Ozymandias on Aug 9, 2017 6:12:53 GMT -5
Looks like the only one in a position to pass that info along to Arya, is the entity previously known as Bran, which doesn't seem to care much about these matters anymore.
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Post by The Captain on Aug 9, 2017 8:24:50 GMT -5
Looks like the only one in a position to pass that info along to Arya, is the entity previously known as Bran, which doesn't seem to care much about these matters anymore. I disagree. While Bran has seemed emotionless since becoming the Three-Eyed Raven, I think he still does care. Cases in point: 1. As soon as he returned to Winterfell, he asked for Jon, presumably to relay info about Jon's parentage. If he had no feelings about Jon, he wouldn't be looking for him immediately. 2. He used the "Chaos is a ladder" line with Littlefinger, which is what Littlefinger told Varys a few seasons ago. Some of the rest of Littlefinger's speech was "Many who try to climb it fail and never get to try again. The fall breaks them..." Bran didn't let the fall break him, but he used it to make himself more powerful than he could have ever imagined. Bran wants Littlefinger to know he's seen Littlefinger's machinations, and this serves as a warning. If he didn't care, he wouldn't bother.
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Post by Ozymandias on Aug 9, 2017 9:22:14 GMT -5
Looks like the only one in a position to pass that info along to Arya, is the entity previously known as Bran, which doesn't seem to care much about these matters anymore. I disagree. While Bran has seemed emotionless since becoming the Three-Eyed Raven, I think he still does care. Cases in point: 1. As soon as he returned to Winterfell, he asked for Jon, presumably to relay info about Jon's parentage. If he had no feelings about Jon, he wouldn't be looking for him immediately. 2. He used the "Chaos is a ladder" line with Littlefinger, which is what Littlefinger told Varys a few seasons ago. Some of the rest of Littlefinger's speech was "Many who try to climb it fail and never get to try again. The fall breaks them..." Bran didn't let the fall break him, but he used it to make himself more powerful than he could have ever imagined. Bran wants Littlefinger to know he's seen Littlefinger's machinations, and this serves as a warning. If he didn't care, he wouldn't bother. 1. He could just want to see Jon to advise him, in the coming battle with the Night King, we'll have to wait and see. But even if he wants to give him news about his real lineage, that could be because Jon needs to know that, in order to pursue his destiny. 2. He also mentioned Arya's list, and Sansa's wedding. Maybe he gets off rattling people (not that Arya was very shaken). These visionaries are real show-offs; Varys has had his own boat rocked by not one, but two priestesses. Clever people should learn to steer clear of those with a higher calling.
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Post by Ozymandias on Aug 9, 2017 9:53:35 GMT -5
"The Pickle Man, an old wives tale." There's no limit to these writers imagination.
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Post by Jesse on Aug 10, 2017 14:55:16 GMT -5
I didn't think the "Pickle Rick" episode of Rick and Morty was as good as the previous two but it was interesting and very funny. I like how this show deals with real life issues in the most crazy ways possible.
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Aug 10, 2017 15:05:47 GMT -5
Littlefinger thinks he's far more clever than everyone else, but he doesn't have any idea what Bran has seen in his visions, and I think that is going to come back and bite him in the ass. But to be fair, he is more clever than everyone else. Bran's visions have nothing to do with intelligence. Littlefinger has never been driven by his sexual pulsions, unlike most characters. He loved katherine, but that ship has obviously sailed. I really don't htink He is on Arya's list, there's no cause for, is there? She probably is turning out to be the most clever member of her family, and she's starting to manipulate people, in the same fashion Littlefinger does, and I think he sees that in her. I still hope for a return of Syrio Forel though.
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Post by Ozymandias on Aug 11, 2017 1:22:18 GMT -5
Littlefinger has never been driven by his sexual pulsions, unlike most characters. He loved katherine, but that ship has obviously sailed. I really don't htink He is on Arya's list, there's no cause for, is there? She probably is turning out to be the most clever member of her family, and she's starting to manipulate people, in the same fashion Littlefinger does, and I think he sees that in her. I still hope for a return of Syrio Forel though. I also think he's into Sansa, despite whatever failed schemes he may've involved her in, not that long ago. Where did you see Arya manipulating people? She's a killer, and she's the perfect killer, because she's both skilled with Needle, and has the powers of DD and The Chameleon combined. We never actually saw the outcome of Syrio Forel's fight with Meryn Trant, did we?
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Aug 11, 2017 5:22:41 GMT -5
Littlefinger has never been driven by his sexual pulsions, unlike most characters. He loved katherine, but that ship has obviously sailed. I really don't htink He is on Arya's list, there's no cause for, is there? She probably is turning out to be the most clever member of her family, and she's starting to manipulate people, in the same fashion Littlefinger does, and I think he sees that in her. I still hope for a return of Syrio Forel though. I also think he's into Sansa, despite whatever failed schemes he may've involved her in, not that long ago. Where did you see Arya manipulating people? She's a killer, and she's the perfect killer, because she's both skilled with Needle, and has the powers of DD and The Chameleon combined. We never actually saw the outcome of Syrio Forel's fight with Meryn Trant, did we? No we haven't, and he just might be one of those faceles geeks as well She's manipulatng in the sense that she's starting to intentionaly say stuff to people in order to provoke them and see their reaction, gain knowledge, etc. And she certainly manipulated a few dozen men htrough deception into killing themselves. I'm pretty sure she could now manipulate anyone in order to reach her goals, just as Littlefinger (who I think is over Sansa, completely).
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Post by The Captain on Aug 11, 2017 7:46:34 GMT -5
I also think he's into Sansa, despite whatever failed schemes he may've involved her in, not that long ago. Where did you see Arya manipulating people? She's a killer, and she's the perfect killer, because she's both skilled with Needle, and has the powers of DD and The Chameleon combined. We never actually saw the outcome of Syrio Forel's fight with Meryn Trant, did we? No we haven't, and he just might be one of those faceles geeks as well She's manipulatng in the sense that she's starting to intentionaly say stuff to people in order to provoke them and see their reaction, gain knowledge, etc. And she certainly manipulated a few dozen men htrough deception into killing themselves. I'm pretty sure she could now manipulate anyone in order to reach her goals, just as Littlefinger (who I think is over Sansa, completely). Littlefinger sees Sansa as someone he can manipulate. If he has to woo her or bed her, he will, but she is just one more person for him to play. Arya, on the other hand, can't be manipulated. She has no illusions about nobility, honor, etc.; she's seen how the game of thrones is played and has decided to upset the apple cart by making her own rules. That is what Littlefinger is scared of, because he won't have any sway over her, because she'll see through his smarm and machinations and if need be, eliminate him if he stands in her way.
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Aug 11, 2017 8:04:22 GMT -5
Littlefinger sees Sansa as someone he can manipulate. If he has to woo her or bed her, he will, but she is just one more person for him to play. Arya, on the other hand, can't be manipulated. She has no illusions about nobility, honor, etc.; she's seen how the game of thrones is played and has decided to upset the apple cart by making her own rules. That is what Littlefinger is scared of, because he won't have any sway over her, because she'll see through his smarm and machinations and if need be, eliminate him if he stands in her way. The way he looked at her in the latest episode reeked of admiration though, like he finaly met someone he considers up to his standards.
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Post by Ozymandias on Aug 11, 2017 8:38:30 GMT -5
she certainly manipulated a few dozen men htrough deception into killing themselves I must be getting senile, but I can't remember those.
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