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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 17, 2021 10:21:18 GMT -5
Day Five brings to the Classic Comics Christmas... The impossible, bizarre, probably not even legal pairing of Swampthing and Abigail Arcane[/b
Uh , Howard the Duck beat you to it.
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Post by brutalis on Dec 17, 2021 10:24:47 GMT -5
#8 Carmen and Heraclio from Gilbert Hernandez in Love and Rockets
While Hopey and Izzie from were fun, it was this couple living in Palomar, facing life's challenges as a married couple that was deeply sad and emotionally painful for both of them and yet their love kept them together while overcoming all obstacles. It was so real and cuts through the heartstrings in delivering an honest, complicated and mature compelling love story.
Carmen was abandoned on a doorstep as an infant with a note that read "Good riddance". She has a poor education in comparison of her husband Heraclio who is a school teacher. They have a son, Tito together and Carmen soon finds out that Heraclio when younger, fathered Luba's second daughter Guadalupea. Rather than condemn her husband or allow anger to rule, she tries to help Tonantzin and make her part of their life and family.
Perhaps because I grew up knowing such couples (usually teens not even out of high school yet) struggling to do their best in sad situations, this married couple truly spoke to me. And they endured and overcame their personal obstacles sharing a pure love in support of and embracing each other. I would read the Palomar stories 1st as it was just so compelling and a truly touching story of life.
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Post by shaxper on Dec 17, 2021 10:46:19 GMT -5
8. Tony Stark / Janet Van DyneIn the midst of the Fall of Hank Pym saga, came a story that had no fight, No violence and no supervillains. Yet Maybe it’s the best issue of the entire 20 issue run. In this sweet love story plotted by Jim Shooter and scripted by Alan Zelentz in Avengers #224, Jan and Tony happen to meet in a stuffy society party and Tony whisks her away from all the nosy guests that are asking personal questions about the recent divorce from Hank. This act leads to both of them dating and a whirlwind romance. It's just what Janet needs as she’s trying to forget about the horrible events of the recent past. (...) It is particularly sweet how they go to street fairs like a young teenage couple would do but all is not right in this budding romance. It Seems that Tony , having recently revealed his ID to Thor, Captain America and Tigra in a battle against the Molecule Man, is so swept away with his feelings that he has not told Janet of his alter ego. He ends up doing so after being admonished by Cap and Thor but what he feared comes true in that Janet ends the relationship. This story is straight out of a Kirby and Simon Romance book , but man is is great. The reader is drawn in and routes for the doomed relationship to continue. This is maybe the shortest romance in this years Classic Christmas but it is just as compelling as any other tale. (...) This one barely missed my top 12. I'm glad to see it here.
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Post by shaxper on Dec 17, 2021 10:46:44 GMT -5
#8 : Jean Grey and Scott Summers.I mean, it was bound to show up eventually; it's a classic. It's also the romance that really got me hooked to X-Men comics. That's despite the fact that Jean and Scott barely interacted at the time, since they had been separated before I started reading and thought each other dead! I lived their romance entirely through the eyes of the grieving Scott, pining for his absent love; Jean was the unattainable star, the romantic ideal, and that was something I could entirely relate to! (Yes, I admit, I couldn't talk to that girl at school without feeling extremely self-conscious, tripping over my own words and having a heart attack all at once..."Unattainable stars" was a romantic subject I was quite familiar with). That didn't change anything! Scott and Jean were the perfect tragic couple, and I wanted those two to get together again! (They did around issue #127, I believe, an issue I didn't read until years later). Subscribing just in time to read the Dark Phoenix saga, I had the bad feeling that Jean wouldn't survive the ordeal although, it turns out, that was the original plan. Reading the ending of X-Men #136, I dared hope against hope... (...) ...but of course we were denied the happy ending I was rooting for, even if it admittedly made for a better story. Damn, that's a beautiful writeup.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 17, 2021 10:56:03 GMT -5
#8 Carmen and Heraclio from Gilbert Hernandez in Love and Rockets Great call, brutalis!!! I must admit that I plain forgot about Carmen and Heraclio, but I loved to see them together.
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Post by Cei-U! on Dec 17, 2021 11:39:23 GMT -5
Please remember, folks, to edit out the images when you quote another post. It makes this so much easier on my overworked eyes.
Cei-U! I summon the Visine!
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 17, 2021 11:47:48 GMT -5
Please remember, folks, to edit out the images when you quote another post. It makes this so much easier on my overworked eyes. Cei-U! I summon the Visine! I went power-mad and deleted the extra images. Apologies to the individual posters, but I think it'll be more efficient this way! BWAAA-HA-HA-HAAA!!! THE POWERRRRRR!!!
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 17, 2021 11:54:10 GMT -5
In my continuing quest to have a basic white guy list... 8. Swamp Thing and Abigal Arcane Cable Again it's one that's been covered before and I'm ridiculously busy and that's good because I don't have time to re-hash already covered ground. Let's just say that we now know that you can have a deep abiding love of vegetables.
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Post by Mister Spaceman on Dec 17, 2021 12:20:13 GMT -5
#8. Danny Rand and Misty Knight (Claremont/Byrne run in Iron Fist #1-15, Marvel Team-Up # 63 & 64, Power Man #48 & 49, and Power Man and Iron Fist #50) It reads like a pitch for a Jack Hill flick, circa 1973: He’s a millionaire’s son who gained special Kung Fu powers in a mystical Himalayan city. She’s an ex-NYPD cop-turned-PI with a bionic arm. He’s white, she’s black. By day, they fight street thugs and international crime lords. By night, they get cozy between the sheets. Conventional wisdom would have paired Danny with Misty’s white partner, Colleen Wing, and relegated Misty to a sassy sidekick role (or hooked her up with Luke Cage). But Claremont was savvy enough to steer these two toward each other and a Seventies zeitgeist romance was born. Maybe not timeless but as far as time capsules go, this love story puts the fun in funky.
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Post by DubipR on Dec 17, 2021 13:26:29 GMT -5
@mrp and brutalis, Well done. Berlin is a genius book. I'm glad you put this one. And any Love & Rockets couple will tug on your heartstrings. I can't believe I missed that one. Everyone here is crushing it!
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Post by coke & comics on Dec 17, 2021 14:43:39 GMT -5
In my continuing quest to have a basic white guy list... Hey, this was on my list and I'm not... oh wait.
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Post by coke & comics on Dec 17, 2021 14:56:53 GMT -5
8. Craig & Raina
Craig Thompson & Raina (just Raina, I think) Blankets by Craig Thompson Top Shelf, 2003 This couple didn't originate in comics, but in another medium we know as reality. But all I know of their relationship comes from this comic. He was raised in a strict Christian household which left him somewhat confused about the subject of sex. And then he had his first high school love and first sexual encounters, and had to figure out how to reconcile his confusing feelings with the faith he was raised in. If my description of their relationship is mostly about him, it's because it's his telling of the story. He reflects on his youth and first love with an almost idolatry of Raina, remembering how he saw her. It's his story of growing up, and this perfect girl was part of that story. At least for a short time. I read this in the first place because I asked the creator of my favorite romance comic what his favorite romance comic was, and he suggested Blankets. Of course, that other comic is still to come...
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Post by EdoBosnar on Dec 17, 2021 15:24:22 GMT -5
8. Steve Traynor (Jetlad) and Wulf (Top 10)These two were a last-minute addition to my list, as in I justed decided to put them in yesterday, bumping off another couple. Initially I wasn’t going to include them because their relationship only received some focus in Top 10: Forty-Niners, while it was only teased at the very end of the main Top 10 series: However, as I was doing write-ups for my other entries, I found myself thinking about these two quite a bit, and realized that they had really made an impression on me and so I had to include them. As stated, we learn how they first met and became a couple in the Forty-Niners, not long after both Steve (better known to the world at large as Jetlad) and Wulf settled in Neopolis as young men. While only a sub-plot in the larger story, Steve’s path from a boy still very confused about his sexuality to a young man in love is particularly well-done and – as noted – one of the most memorable aspects of this book (which is quite excellent, by the way).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2021 19:57:58 GMT -5
my #8: ROM: Spaceknight and Brandy Clark ROM in the comics was technically a cyborg, not a robot, from the Planet Galador. He ends up on Earth fighting the secret invasion of the Dire Wraiths. . where he meets human Brandy Clark Brandy at first thinks ROM is a murderer (humans can't see the dire wraiths inhabiting the people shapes that ROM takes out), and she can't imagine being friendly with him, but over the course of the series, she comes to really care for him: at one point - she pines for ROM so badly, and can't get around the fact that he's metal and she's human - Brandy even ends up making a deal with a "Wraith Sorcerer" and has her body transported inside the Cyborg shape of Starshine where she fights side by side with ROM for many issues. Eventually as ROMs series came to an end, and he defeated the Dire Wraits on Earth, he left to go back to Galador, leaving a now human again (thanks the ROM Villian "Hybrid" who consumed the magic that had turned her into Starshine)Brandy on Earth to pine for him. of course, this was all happening around the time of "Secret Wars II" and towards the end of issue 72 (3 issues before the end), the Beyonder grants Brandy's wish to be with ROM on Galador. This being the Beyonder (a stupid, stupid character), he instantly transports Brandy to Galador - where she arrives weeks before ROM (who is flying there thru space). It gets super complicated, but there's a rebellion of the Spaceknights on Galador killing the remaining "organic" inhabitants, Brandy joins the resistance, ROM finally arrives and saves only her - with everyone else organic dying, and CONVENIENTLY ROM's original organic body is inside one of the defeated Spaceknights (something not true of the other heroic Spaceknights.. go figure. . so they ended up disappearing into space to be used as cannon fodder at some point). but ROM ended up back in his organic body, and with Brandy they decided as the last two organic life forms on Galador, they would repopulate the planet (no, really). I believe their last Marvel appearance was at Rick Jone's wedding over in Hulk: anyways. . ended silly, but yeah, Brandy and the Toaster are my #8 pick.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 17, 2021 22:29:16 GMT -5
8. Tony Stark / Janet Van DyneIn the midst of the Fall of Hank Pym saga, came a story that had no fight, No violence and no supervillains. Yet Maybe it’s the best issue of the entire 20 issue run. In this sweet love story plotted by Jim Shooter and scripted by Alan Zelentz in Avengers #224, Jan and Tony happen to meet in a stuffy society party and Tony whisks her away from all the nosy guests that are asking personal questions about the recent divorce from Hank. This act leads to both of them dating and a whirlwind romance. It's just what Janet needs as she’s trying to forget about the horrible events of the recent past. It is particularly sweet how they go to street fairs like a young teenage couple would do but all is not right in this budding romance. It Seems that Tony , having recently revealed his ID to Thor, Captain America and Tigra in a battle against the Molecule Man, is so swept away with his feelings that he has not told Janet of his alter ego. He ends up doing so after being admonished by Cap and Thor but what he feared comes true in that Janet ends the relationship. This story is straight out of a Kirby and Simon Romance book , but man is is great. The reader is drawn in and routes for the doomed relationship to continue. This is maybe the shortest romance in this years Classic Christmas but it is just as compelling as any other tale. I actually HATED this...probably the biggest dick move Tony ever did in a long line of them. It felt slightly better when they got together again recently, but still don't love it.
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