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Post by Trevor on Apr 24, 2022 6:51:33 GMT -5
Day Twenty-Eight Choices
This will be our final Strip Sunday, and our first day with a wildcard option.
In our previous Sundays we’ve left out some big names in comic strips, like Chester Gould and Garry Trudeau. But any list I make is going to leave out some heavyweights, so if you have a strip artist on your one list of ten total comic people, please add them today and tell us why you love them.
And let’s twist the theme a bit and include one of the greats for your consideration today. He did some strip work, and his greatest creation was included in Sunday newspapers. I can’t imagine this creator ever not being on my list: Will Eisner.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2022 7:21:06 GMT -5
Eisner is a shoo in for me. He probably sits at #1 most times when you ask me to make a top 10 list, and he's one of the two I was reserving spots for still.
I like Gould and Trudeau and respect their work, but neither is a particular favorite of mine.
So my top 10 (9 slots filled) remains: Moebius, Joe Kubert, Darwyn Cooke, Milton Canniff, Frank Frazetta, Alex Raymond Jeff Smith, Stan Sakai and Will Eisner. 1 spot reserved waiting to see if this creator gets nominated.
-M
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 24, 2022 8:31:16 GMT -5
Day Twenty-Eight ChoicesThis will be our final Strip Sunday, and our first day with a wildcard option. In our previous Sundays we’ve left out some big names in comic strips, like Chester Gould and Garry Trudeau. But any list I make is going to leave out some heavyweights, so if you have a strip artist on your one list of ten total comic people, please add them today and tell us why you love them. And let’s twist the theme a bit and include one of the greats for your consideration today. He did some strip work, and his greatest creation was included in Sunday newspapers. I can’t imagine this creator ever not being on my list: Will Eisner. I’m a fan of Gould, but not quite on my list. Trudeau I’m hot and cold on. Eisner finds room on my comic book list edging out Jeff Smith. Yes, The Spirit appeared in papers, but its aesthetic was still comic books. And the actual Spirit strip couldn’t hold a candle to the insert. Also his graphic novels are the only slice-of-life works I actually like. As for strip creators you haven’t mentioned. Three “panel” artists jump out; Bill Mauldin, Charles Addams and Herb Block. Final entry probably has to go to my late Montana neighbor and king of the western strip, Stan Lynde, who brought us Rick O’Shay and Latigo. But man, I hate not including E.C. Segar, Noel Sickles, Roy Crane, Percy Crosby, Ernie Bushmiller, Frank King, Frank Robbins, and a number of others I’m probably blanking on. Top Ten (Comic Books): Neil Gaiman, Alan Moore, Carl Barks, Darwyn Cooke, Warren Ellis, Will Eisner, Garth Ennis, Ed Brubaker, Wally Wood, Tim Truman Top Ten (Comic Strips): Walt Kelly, Bill Watterson, Berke Breathed, Gary Larson, Milton Caniff, Bill Mauldin, Al Williamson, Charles Addams, Herb Block, Stan Lynde.
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Post by Cei-U! on Apr 24, 2022 8:44:59 GMT -5
Day Twenty-Eight ChoicesThis will be our final Strip Sunday, and our first day with a wildcard option. In our previous Sundays we’ve left out some big names in comic strips, like Chester Gould and Garry Trudeau. But any list I make is going to leave out some heavyweights, so if you have a strip artist on your one list of ten total comic people, please add them today and tell us why you love them. And let’s twist the theme a bit and include one of the greats for your consideration today. He did some strip work, and his greatest creation was included in Sunday newspapers. I can’t imagine this creator ever not being on my list: Will Eisner. FINALLY! I didn't think you'd ever get to Eisner! Of course he belongs on my list!
Gould and Trudeau are both great, but neither would make my Top En comic strip list. If this is "our final Strip Sunday," does that mean no more strip artists are going to be proposed? Should I just go ahead and complete that list then?
Top Ten (comic books): Barks, Eisner, Gilbert Hernandez, Kelly, Kirby, Perez*, Stevens* Top Ten (comic strips): Caniff, Herriman, Kelly, Schulz, Watterson
* provisional
Cei-U! I summon the titan!
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Post by EdoBosnar on Apr 24, 2022 9:42:24 GMT -5
FINALLY! I didn't think you'd ever get to Eisner! Of course he belongs on my list!
(...) My thoughts exactly. As this little game progressed, I more and more found myself wondering if the guy who has an industry award named after him would actually be included... Needless to say, yes, Eisner is definitely in my top ten.
As for the strip guys, like I said earlier, I'm not really going to consider them (not even making a separate list for them like others here). That said, I would like to simply give a shout-out to Jerry Van Amerongen, who did the wonderful Neighborhood single-panel cartoon through most of the 1980s, and then the similar Ballard Street from 1991 until a few years ago. He had a wonderful drawing style and a very whimsical type of humor. As for Chester Gould and Trudeau - I respect the influence of the former although I've hardly read any Dick Tracy strips. Doonesbury used to be one of my favorite comic strips from my early teens until I finished high school, and Trudeau would probably have been in my no. 1 or 2 favorite strip creator if you had asked me this question back then. But I don't like his work now nearly as much as I used to.
My list so far: John & Sal Buscema, Alan Moore, George Perez, Walt Simonson, John Byrne, Alan Brennert and Will Eisner.
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Post by tarkintino on Apr 24, 2022 11:42:39 GMT -5
Chester Gould: Historic creator, and one of the earliest examples of a signature comic strip creation being a mainstream, mass-merchandised hit. That said, no.
Garry Trudeau: no.
Will Eisner: no.
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Post by arfetto on Apr 24, 2022 11:54:00 GMT -5
Eisner seems like the kind of creator that would make my list if I had read more of him, but it is taking me a long time to collect the Spirit Archives (due to the expense and finding them), and I haven't started reading any of them because I would prefer to read it without any gaps. So as it is, I am pretty sure I've only read A Contract with God. As soon as I finally have all the archives though...
As far as I know, that is the best way to buy the Spirit stories, but if there is another kind of collection that I don't know of, I would gladly look into that instead.
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Post by Dizzy D on Apr 24, 2022 13:02:08 GMT -5
Day Twenty-Eight ChoicesThis will be our final Strip Sunday, and our first day with a wildcard option. In our previous Sundays we’ve left out some big names in comic strips, like Chester Gould and Garry Trudeau. But any list I make is going to leave out some heavyweights, so if you have a strip artist on your one list of ten total comic people, please add them today and tell us why you love them. And let’s twist the theme a bit and include one of the greats for your consideration today. He did some strip work, and his greatest creation was included in Sunday newspapers. I can’t imagine this creator ever not being on my list: Will Eisner. I don't think any of my remaining four are comic strip artists, though two of them have done one-panel/one-page comics.
Eisner also doesn't make my list.
So my list remains:
Gaiman Moore Giraud Sienkiewicz Wagner Trondheim
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Post by Trevor on Apr 24, 2022 14:28:01 GMT -5
A few years ago, my list would have been all Marvel/DC creators. Today, it’s shaping up to be exactly 50/50.
In a few years, I expect it to be nearly 100% “independent”. Comics are so amazingly diverse, surprising, and persistent. I’m thankful for forums like this one that have directed me into areas I didn’t even know existed back in my grade school/college days. I’ll always love and have spots on my shelves for the big two though.
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Post by MDG on Apr 24, 2022 19:50:18 GMT -5
Eisner, to be honest, was on my original list if 10, but a couple of weeks ago, I moved someone up. So Eisner dropped to 11. (Again, looking at favorites, not best or most important.)
But Gould is on my strip artist list, boosted by the fact that I've had chances to read good amount of Tracy from different eras.
So far: Comic Books: Jack Kirby, Steve Ditko, Xaime Hernandez, Dan Clowes
Comic Strips: Bill Watterson, Milton Caniff, Charles Schulz, Alex Raymond, George Herriman, Chester Gould
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Post by Trevor on Apr 25, 2022 6:01:41 GMT -5
Day Twenty-Eight Response and Wrap—Up
I miss the days when comic strips seemed so integral to American life. Maybe it was just my environment and perceptions, but everyone used to read the funny pages. Kids talked about them at school and had strips and panels taped to their notebooks and desks. The family traded pages back and forth at the breakfast table each morning. The paper had up to four pages of daily strips, and two huge sections every Sunday. Strip creators made headlines and were mentioned on the news, and animated shows were made of countless strips.
Pretty sure I was buying book collections of strips even before I would consider myself as collecting comics. I pretty much stuck to the humor, mostly gag a day cartoons, although I dabbled with the ‘serious’ strips and loved much of the art. Was a Doonesbury fan for a time, and liked Ridley’s Believe It Or Not and other ‘educational’ strips.
If I was to honestly include strip creators in a list of work that has affected me most and sticks with me into these 56 years now, I’d have to include Schulz and Watterson at a minimum.
I was lucky to be introduced to Will Eisner’s work during my college years, loving the Spirit reprint singles from Kitchen Sink and getting to his graphic novels pretty early into that format’s rise. He’s a master of conveying the human condition in addition to the multiple genres of storytelling spread throughout the Spirit run. He’s probably number one on my list.
First new addition in awhile brings me to ninety percent completion. Frank Miller Jack Kirby Carl Barks Alan Moore Mike Mignola Jeff Lemire Bernie Wrightson Matt Wagner Will Eisner
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Post by Trevor on Apr 25, 2022 6:03:27 GMT -5
Day Twenty-Nine Choices
Today I want to add a random quartet.
Richard Sala, whose work I've only got into the last several years and is one of the few occasions where I kind of got beat into it by the podcast and in this instance specifically Vince. It really was looking at some of the more current hardcover covers that got me in tho. They are very easy to look at and striking.
Stuart Immonem who I really like and when he was doing the OG X-Men was one of those instances where I immediately went to go get a page, for the love of Jeanie, but I wasn't on board with the whole is this THE guy of his generation talk.
And the third is some cat named Milo Manara.
And the fourth is really one of the biggest dudes in comic history and even in a box above that box with a real select literal few. Herge.
Are any of them in your top 10?
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Post by EdoBosnar on Apr 25, 2022 7:40:13 GMT -5
Immonen and Herge are creators whose work I really enjoy, but they're not among my personal favorites. I'm only passingly familiar with Sala's work (and don't like it very much) and Manara is a perfectly fine artist, but a bit overrated in comparison to several other fellow Italians that come to mind. So no to all of the day 29 choices.
My list: John & Sal Buscema, Alan Moore, George Perez, Walt Simonson, John Byrne, Alan Brennert and Will Eisner.
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Post by Cei-U! on Apr 25, 2022 7:42:55 GMT -5
Day Twenty-Nine ChoicesToday I want to add a random quartet. Richard Sala, whose work I've only got into the last several years and is one of the few occasions where I kind of got beat into it by the podcast and in this instance specifically Vince. It really was looking at some of the more current hardcover covers that got me in tho. They are very easy to look at and striking. Stuart Immonem who I really like and when he was doing the OG X-Men was one of those instances where I immediately went to go get a page, for the love of Jeanie, but I wasn't on board with the whole is this THE guy of his generation talk. And the third is some cat named Milo Manara. And the fourth is really one of the biggest dudes in comic history and even in a box above that box with a real select literal few. Herge. Are any of them in your top 10? Nope. Herge might make it if I'd read more Tintin. I like Immonen's work but he's not Top Ten worthy. I know Manara's reputation but haven't read anything of his. I know Sala's name but noit what he's done. So my lists remain at:
Top Ten (comic books): Carl Barks, Will Eisner, Gilbert Hernandez, Walt Kelly, Jack Kirby, George Perez*, Dave Stevens* Top Ten (comic strips): Milton Caniff, George Herriman, Walt Kelly, Gary Larson, Charles Schulz, Bill Watterson
* provisional
Cei-U! Forgot he'd chosen Larson!
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Post by MDG on Apr 25, 2022 8:30:24 GMT -5
Richard Sala just missed my top 10. I always think it's a shame DC never had him do a (golden age) Batman story.
I think of Stuart Immonem as a very good artist, but that's about it.
I'd like to read some Manara, but never had the opportunity to pick any up.
I like the Tintin I've read a lot, but the character (and Herge) isn;t a favorite.
Comic Books: Jack Kirby, Steve Ditko, Xaime Hernandez, Dan Clowes Comic Strips: Bill Watterson, Milton Caniff, Charles Schulz, Alex Raymond, George Herriman, Chester Gould
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