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Post by zaku on Aug 11, 2023 7:09:32 GMT -5
I certainly challenge any Superman fan to a debate about the quality of DC Comics Presents. I love DC Comics Presents! My criticism was towards the main series And yes, Clark as anchorman was simply absurd, for someone who was so jealous about his secret identity. I mean, would it have been easier for him to give up his job or continue to use people against their will like this?
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Post by Hoosier X on Sept 4, 2023 17:44:05 GMT -5
I finally found some time to get started (again!) on the Karb-Brak saga in Action Comics #460 to #463. Over the weekend, I sat down with Action Comics #460 and jotted down seven or eight pages of notes about this unheralded epic of 1970s Superman. Yes, that's Karb-Brak above. I should say upfront that I'm being sarcastic when I say words like "saga" and "epic" while describing it. I talked to one of my friends on the phone just after I finished the notes and I summarized the story for him and he replied "That's really dumb." Yes. It's really dumb. And he only heard about the first issue! But that's Bronze Age Superman. Getting mad about it is like being mad that it makes no sense for Laurel and Hardy to have jobs in a sawmill. I developed a very strong distaste for Superman comics of the 1970s when I was a kid. One of my friends lived pretty close to the school where I went to fourth and fifth grade, and it was just a half a block out of my way home to go to his house and eat some cookies and read some comics for thirty minutes or so before continuing on my way home. (I lived all the way on the other side of town and it was quite a walk. Some of the kids in my neighborhood walked and some of them got rides from their parents. So it took me a while to get home. My mom didn't really care how late I got home as long as it wasn't dark yet.) My friend liked DC Comics a lot! It was 1975 and 1976, and I was reading mostly Marvel Comics. But I read DC Comics at his house ... and I didn't like them very much. I have very vague memories of thinking Green Lantern and the Justice League and especially Superman were boring and often kind of stupid. I remember thinking Terra-Man was just about the dumbest character ever! But I don't remember any details from the Terra-Man story I found so objectionable. (Nowadays I love Terra-Man.) However, there was one story that I remembered a little, just a few details. There was a weird, multi-colored alien living in Metropolis. He was masquerading as a human and he lived in a tenement building. I even remembered that he was using the name "Andrew Meda" as an alias because he was from the galaxy Andromeda. And he was fighting Superman because reasons! So almost fifty years passed! I've gotten over my distaste for 1970s Superman. I even buy Bronze Age Superman, Action, Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsen and especially Superman Family. I started thinking about the Andrew Meda story and wondering if I would like it any better now than I did in 1976. So I started scrolling Superman and Action Comics cover galleries online and I recognized the cover to Action #460. I purchased it on eBay, and then I had to get the next three issues as well because it's a multi-part epic extravaganza! It's highly entertaining! I feel kind of bad for making fun (a little) of my friend for liking these silly Superman comics. I'm going to type up my notes for Action Comics #460 this afternoon and hopefully I'll get to the other three issues over the next week or so. MORTALS! PREPARE YOURSELVES FOR THE GLORY OF KARB-BRAK!!
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Post by Hoosier X on Sept 4, 2023 19:13:05 GMT -5
ACTION COMICS #460
June 1976 "Superman, You’ll Be the Death of Me Yet!" Story: Cary Bates Art: Curt Swan and Tex Blaisdell It starts with Clark Kent walking out of the lobby of his apartment building at 344 Clinton Street. He is waiting for the B-109 bus to take him to his job as an anchorman at the Galaxy building. It seems that WGBS news personality Clark Kent takes public transportation to get around Metropolis. Which makes sense. Superman doesn't need a car. In his persona as Clark Kent, he’s too mild-mannered and non-confrontational to drive in Metropolis traffic. It’s almost as bad as Gotham City traffic! If Clark was actually getting behind the wheel and braving the Metropolis Rush Hour Grand Prix Gridlock, people would get suspicious! And what would Superman do with a car? He has to be able to take off at a moment's notice and put out fires and divert meteors and gaslight Lois again. He doesn't know how long he’ll be gone. If Clark's car is still sitting in the Galaxy building parking garage after he's left, people will get suspicious. Clark's car is still here! Didn't he leave hours ago? You don't suppose he's Superman!? Getting back to Clark's bus trip to work … There's a construction worker in the back of the bus. He’s going to turn into an alien in a few panels and it's going to cause quite a ruckus. Really, what are the chances that there isn’t an alien already on the bus when Clark Kent steps on and takes a seat on his way to work? This is Metropolis! So … SLIM to NONE! Steve Lombard gets on the bus a few blocks after Clark. His Jaguar is in the shop, so he’s on the bus for a few days. (Would Steve Lombard take the bus? As I recall, he's a cheapskate, but he's also very conscious of his image. I'm pretty sure he would take a taxi.) He sees Kent and sits next to him and calls him "Clarkie." Clark puts up with his because that's just how Clark is. There are so many reasons to hate Steve Lombard. He’s in so many comics from this period and it’s always the same thing. I guess it’s full disclosure time … I really hate Steve Lombard. He might even be worse than Terry Long. So everybody is looking in their direction but it's not because they’re impressed that Metropolis TV personalities Clark Kent and Steve Lombard are using public transportation. It's because there’s a multi-colored humanoid alien standing in the back of the bus, giving off heat and glowing. This is the tragic alien being known as Karb-Brak. He's a little over six feet tall and kind of stocky, with white skin, blue eyes and red hair. He has weird facial hair: crazy long eyebrows and a Yosemite Sam mustache that grows out of his cheeks instead of his upper lip. His costume is yellow and purple with a distinctive black design on his chest. He melts the back of the bus and it crashes. The bus riders get off the vehicle in an orderly fashion and Clark Kent rushes into the bushes to change to Superman. He approached Karb-Brak, who has stepped out of the melted bus and is just standing there, very dazed. Superman walks closer and is sweating and feeling feverish, which is not normal for Superman. Somehow the strange glow surrounding the Karb-Brak must be affecting Superman in a strange manner. The alien turns and smacks Superman and sends him flying. They mix it up for a few pages and the fight ends with both of them falling unconscious from the sky. Superman slams into the sidewalk as Karb-Brak lands in a dump truck. Some time later, Karb-Brak, somehow changed into his human form with a hard hat and a lunchbox, crawls out of the truck and start thinking about how he got to this situation in the middle of a 1970s issue of Action Comics. He's from a planet in the Andromeda galaxy where everybody is super-powered. They all fly and have super-strength and I think they all have mental powers. And poor Karb-Brak has developed a deadly disease, an allergic reaction to other people with super-powers. He has uncontrollable seizures and a recurring fever, and it gets worse and worse! He glows and emits great heat and is gradually going insane! The best planet for Karb-Brak to recuperate is Earth. It has the right atmosphere, the right temperature, and most of the people don't have super-powers. So he creates a human identity for himself and moves to Metropolis and becomes a construction worker. He moves into a tenement building and takes the name Andrew Meda because he's from the Andromeda galaxy. (If it was Gotham City or Central City, his neighbors would have a good reason to be suspicious of anyone named Andrew Meda. But this is Metropolis. You only have to be concerned if your new neighbor has initials L.L. or is obsessed with saying his own name backwards.) Karb-Brak is homesick, partly because Earthlings are stupid and inferior but also because the presence of Superman is spoiling his recovery and making his disease worse. He goes to his apartment and stares in his closet at some devices in the shadows and muses that he is forced to deploy "life-saving measures"! Later at the gym in the Galaxy building, Steve Lombard and Clark Kent are working out. Clark announces that he's finished with his workout, but really he sees somebody in trouble with his X-ray/long-distance vision. He leaves the room and switches to Superman and flies away. Meanwhile, Andrew Meda is outside the window, pretending to be a window washer. He has a photographic memory and he remembers the faces of everyone on the bus. He knows one of the people on the bus must be Superman! His advanced computer (the device in the closet) says Superman must be either Clark Kent or Steve Lombard. And because Superman is close by, Andrew Meda he turns into Karb-Brak, glowing, burning up and going crazy! With Superman thousands of miles away, Karb-Brak crashes through the window and starts walking menacingly towards Steve Lombard. "You are killing me, Superman!" he yells. "For me to live, you must die!" And Steve is all, "I'm not Superman, you big, weird, multi-colored nut!" And then … it's continued next issue! I'm on the edge of my seat! I'm very worried that Superman will get back in time to save Steve Lombard!
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Post by Hoosier X on Sept 7, 2023 21:31:42 GMT -5
I was able to cut and paste my review of Action Comics #460! Hooray!
Expect the review of Action #461 in a few days.
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Post by Chris on Sept 7, 2023 22:09:36 GMT -5
There are so many reasons to hate Steve Lombard. He’s in so many comics from this period and it’s always the same thing. I guess it’s full disclosure time … I really hate Steve Lombard. He might even be worse than Terry Long. No. No one is worse than Terry Long. Ok, wait a minute.... Terry did manage to marry Wonder Girl, so he did one awesome thing in his life. Point to Terry Long. He melts the back of the bus and it crashes. The bus riders get off the vehicle in an orderly fashionWell, the people of Metropolis have had a LOT of practice at this sort of thing. They are probably the most laid-back, difficult to scare people on Earth.
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Post by Prince Hal on Sept 8, 2023 9:29:05 GMT -5
Say what you might about the quality of the story, but what a design for an imposing, intimidating super-villain! If Thanos had looked like Karb-Brak, the Avengers movies might have made a buck or two. I think it's the moustache growing on his nose and the one lonely eyebrow that take this design to Heath Ledger-Joker levels.
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Post by Hoosier X on Sept 10, 2023 13:32:46 GMT -5
ACTION COMICS #461
July 1976 "Kill Me or Leave Me!" Story: Cary Bates Art: Curt Swan and Tex Blaisdell So … as you may remember from the previous issue … Karb-Brak is charging into the Galaxy Building gym to kill Steve Lombard because he thinks Steve is Superman … … and … … on the West Coast, Superman is rounding up some asbestos-clad criminals wielding flame-throwers. That’s not a very time-consuming task for Superman, so he's quickly on his way back to Metropolis. Steve Lombard has managed to duck and evade Karb-Brak onslaught for more than a minute! When Superman flies through the broken window, Steve has scurried behind a set of parallel bars as Karb-Brak is wrecking them. (Karb-Brak still thinks Steve is Superman, but he thinks Superman is playing a game. THE SUPER-POWERED BEINGS GAME! Where you pretend you don’t have powers and allow the other combatant to destroy everything in your vicinity.) I have to admit, now that I think about it, that I don't want to see Steve Lombard perish at the hands of Karb-Brak. I want to see something much worse happen to Steve Lombard. Let me think about a suitable demise for a few minutes. So now Superman and Kar-Brak fight for two pages. Steve runs out and gets a portable videotape camera to record the fight for posterity. He even describes the battle play-by-play like it’s a sporting event. Karb-Brak somehow has the power to blow things up, so he blows up the gym BECAUSE REASONS! Superman barely manages to recue Steve from the blast … and Karb-Brak walks out of the Galaxy Building in his human disguise as Andrew Meda. A two-panel flashback describes what happened in the last issue because of all the kids who might have missed it because of the lousy distribution in the 1970s. Andrew Meda muses that he must quickly come up with a better plan to kill Superman. His illness is getting worse and the main thing making his physical condition even more sever is … SUPERMAN HIMSELF! (I thought of a great way for Steve Lombard to die! Giganta accidentally steps on him while he's trying to look up her skirt!) Andrew Meda starts messing around with his psi-machine, the advanced computer from his home world. He now knows for sure that Superman is Clark Kent, so he uses the psi-machine to cause problems for Kent by manipulating the emotions of Clark’s acquaintances in the news business. Then, he increases the number of targets and unleashes the power of the psi-machine on seemingly everybody in Metropolis! "It will make Superman helpless to resist my next – and final – attack!" says Karb-Brak. Sure, Jan. The next day, everybody is enamored of Clark Kent! He gets to work disheveled and roughed up because he’s been chased and mobbed by admirers who can’t keep their hands off him. The entire city seems to be infatuated. He gets to work and Lois is all over Clark and she's no longer interested in Superman. Steve Lombard now thinks Clark is great and wants to be his best friend. Morgan Edge wants to give him a new contract at a million dollars a year. It's all a bit much. Clark tries to get away but there’s too many people, hundreds, thousands, running after him on the street of Metropolis. He can't escape at super-speed because there’s too many people around. Clark runs into the park, hoping to shake the adoring crowds … and there's Karb-Brak! The terminal multi-colored alien menace smacks him (still dressed as Clark) and he falls into the crowd, injuring some of the bystanders with his invulnerable body. Karb-Brak is hoping that Clark’s concern for the safety of the non-powered bystanders, added to his urge to protect his identity, will prove a fatal distraction for Clark. But when Clark fights back, the crowd cheers for him! It helps Clark to rally and find the strength to fight back against Karb-Brak. This isn’t what Karb-Brak intended, so he flies away again to have another think-tank session with psi-machine to come up with another plan. Clark now has a chance change to Superman and he follows Karb-Brak to his apartment and knocks him down. Superman uses the psi-machine to turn all the adoring Metropolites back to normal and to forget they ever saw Clark with super-powers. Karb-Brak is on the floor. He now weakly raises himself on one arm and tells Superman why he’s been attacking him. It's because Karb-Brak is going to die! The presence of Superman causes his tragic disease to kick in! He’s allergic to super-powered beings! There’s no other planet where he can go. He begs Superman to leave Earth so Karb-Brak can live! It's the alien's only chance of survival! Superman must make his decision! Will he leave Earth so that Karb-Brak can live? Or will he ignore Karb-Brak's plea and let him die? To be continued …
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Post by Hoosier X on Sept 15, 2023 21:25:10 GMT -5
ACTION COMICS #462
August 1976 "Super-War of Independence!" Story: Cary Bates Art: Curt Swan and Tex Blaisdell So … what does Superman decide? Will he stay on Earth and let Karb-Brak die? Or will he leave Earth, at least temporarily, so that some other solution can be worked out? Action Comics #462 opens with Karb-Brak on the floor, reaching up, begging Superman to leave Earth so Karb-Brak can live. KARB-BRAK WANTS TO LIVE!! Superman touches Karb-Brak's head and says his body temperature must be around 500 DEGREES FAHRENHEIT!! This physical contact allows Karb-Brak to mentally show Superman a one-page flashback of his medical history so that the Man of Steel knows the most important bullet points. (This is also very helpful for the 1976 kids who missed an issue or two, or who just don't read Action Comics.) Superman doesn't really have much of a chance to make a decision on whether to leave Earth or not. Karb-Brak is no longer glowing. He has entered the final stage of his tragic illness. He warns Superman that he has hit the point where he's longer responsible for his actions. I guess the madness is upon him and Karb-Brak breaks free and flies away! Superman flies after him and wonders what the effects of this final stage of Karb-Brak's malady will be. He quickly finds out that it's some kind of molecular distortion that makes buildings rubbery and wavy, and then Superman is all stretched out and distorted like Plastic Man. It affects his eyesight and his depth perception and he can't land a punch when he catches up to Karb-Brak. So he ties his belt around his eyes and uses his super-hearing. He manages to make contact with Karb-Brak and hits him so that he goes whizzing out of sight. A couple of days pass, and it looks like Superman isn't doing anything. There's a dying alien whose terminal illness is causing some strange and powerful side effects and Superman doesn't know just what the entity's death throes might entail. Karb-Brak might just explode and take out a whole city block in Metropolis. There’s also Superman's goody-two-shoes image to be considered. He probably should be seeking out Karb-Brak (he knows where his apartment is) and working with him to cure his illness. He could contact S.T.A.R. Laboratories or Professor Potter or any of his scientist colleagues in the super-hero community. But, no. He's just going about his business as Clark Kent. To be fair, it's the days leading up to July 4, 1976, the 200th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence. Who remembers that far back? I do! It was a big deal! It looks kind of like Kent has put Karb-Brak on the backburner until after he's finished the Bicentennial broadcast. The morning after the fight with Karb-Brak, Morgan Edge and Clark Kent are jogging through the park. (Metropolis Park, I assume.) It’s part of a new Morgan Edge physical fitness initiative, to have business meetings while jogging. Clark is huffing and puffing and lagging behind and falling over bushes. The next day is July 4! Karb-Brak is watching Clark on the television. He’s announcing a special program for the Bicentennial. The multi-colored alien from the Andromeda galaxy is messing around with the psi-machine, and all this talk of “independence” has given him an idea! He uses the psi-machine to re-program Superman, but it's all rather vague (in his word balloons) about what he's done to Superman. I guess we’ll have to see. Karb-Brak turns into a bunch of floating crimson splotches. It's apparently the final phase of his illness. "Death is only minutes away!" he says. He flies away to find Superman. Seconds later, as Superman glides easily through the sky, finds himself being attacked by a bunch of red spots in a vaguely human form. It takes him a couple of smacks to realize it's Karb-Brak! He starts trying to reason with him. He wants to take Karb-Brak to the Fortress of Solitude and run some tests, for starters. But it's too late for that. It looks like Superman dithered away two days when he knew where Karb-Brak's apartment was and didn't contact him or try to come up with some kind of solution! Karb-Brak is done talking! KARB-BRAK WANTS TO LIVE!! Superman pursues the red splotches as they flee the city, over an uninhabited area, then the splotches unexpectedly turn on him and spin around him and cover him up … and Superman disappears! The vermillion spots regain humanoid form and slowly transform into Karb-Brak! His plan has worked! Superman is gone, so Karb-Brak is returning to normal. He is completely free of the deadly disease that was killing him. “I was seconds away from death,” he says. Since he couldn't persuade Superman to leave Earth voluntarily (and also because Superman was too busy preparing for the July 4 broadcast and wasn't making any effort to help), Karb-Brak had to take charge of the situation and get rid of Superman himself! The psi-machine calculated the “exact velocity and vibration ratio” to send Superman back in time! And so Karb-Brak has transported Clark to July 4, 1776! And its Karb-Brak who will be celebrating "independence," his own independence from Superman! The psi-machine erased Superman's memory and re-programmed him for life in Philadelphia in 1776. The final panel shows Clark Kent marching down the street in 18th-century Philadelphia, an intrepid reporter on his way to observe the signing of the Declaration of Independence! To be continued …
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Post by Hoosier X on Sept 17, 2023 15:29:05 GMT -5
ACTION COMICS #463September 1976 "Die Now, Live Later!" Story: Cary Bates Art: Curt Swan and Tex Blaisdell Well, it starts with Superman present at the signing of the Declaration of Independence. There's Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson and John Hancock and several others all gathered around ready to put their names on the darn thing. And Superman is close by, making sure nobody uses blue ink. NO BLUE INK! It's a mostly symbolic splash page, though it does sorta almost happen near the end of the story. You turn the page and 1776 Clark Kent is checking in at the offices of the Pennsylvania Gazette, where his boss Benjamin Franklin tells Kent to hurry off to Independence Hall to cover the signing of the Declaration of Independence. I'm surprised Ben Franklin doesn’t ask Kent to carry him because Franklin is supposed to be there too! Clark has some exciting adventures on the way to the assignment. First, he stops some runaway horses! Onlookers wonder how one man could stop charging horses, but someone suggests they must have been slowed down by the mud. Then, Clark comes across some suspicious, unshaven fellows plotting mischief against the Declaration of Independence! He stopped the horses, and now he scatters the Tory ruffians, but Clark is not sure how he does it. Because Clark had no memory of being Superman or of ever living in the 1900s! Meanwhile, back in 1976 Metropolis, Karb-Brak is using the psi-machine to watch Clark in 1776 and make sure his plan is working. Then we have five panels of flashbacks (because who can remember what happened a month ago when it's this silly?), and then we're back to Clark in 1776. A girl drops some packages and Clark helps her and tells her that she is very photogenic. Where did that word come from? he asks himself. He looks at Independence Hall … and somehow he can see through the walls! The Loyalist thugs from the earlier scene are tunneling up into the building … and Clark can hear what they are saying! He walks forward to stop them and sees himself in a mud puddle … and he sees himself as Superman! BECAUSE REASONS! So somehow he changes from 1776 Clark Kent to 1976 Superman and he remembers everything and he stops the TORY SABOTEURS! And then he flies to a battlefield and dumps the Tories in front of George Washington because "the father of our country will know how to deal with that trio of Tory spies!" Then Superman goes back to Independence Hall to make sure the regularly scheduled signing of the Declaration of Independence can take place. Then Superman flies faster than the speed of light, breaks through the time barrier and returns to 1976 Metropolis. Superman tracks down Karb-Brak and fights him again. As a matter of fact, he fights Karb-Brak until he dies, takes his corpse to the Fortress of Solitude and, in the most vague way possible, brings Karb-Brak back to life! The next day, Clark gets on the bus next to construction worker Andrew Meda and they ride peacefully to work. Karb-Brak is completely cured, he has lost his powers and he has no memory that was every anything but a guy named Andrew Meda. Clark muses … "Karb-Brak is gone forever … I hope!" THE END … … or is it!?!?
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 27, 2023 19:06:24 GMT -5
I got this in the mail yesterday. DC Special Series #5. I wasn't going to say much about it. The art is Curt Swan and Vince Colletta. Vince is not at his best. Written by Cary Bates. The story is OK, I guess, but it takes a long time to get the story started. Luthor and Brainiac are the villains, but they are mostly behind the scenes, so they aren't in it very much until the end. 1978 Dollar Comics! Who remembers this one? I remember the ads for it, but I wasn't much of a Superman fan back then. I might have even picked it up at the drug store and flipped through it ... and then put it back because of the art. That's a great cover though! As I was reading it just now, I came across a scene with Steve Lombard. Gah! This guy! I can't even! Was there some kind of iron-clad editorial directive from the highest echelons of power at DC that Steve Lombard had to be in every issue? I wouldn't mind him being so awful if he was a little more interesting.
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Post by zaku on Oct 28, 2023 5:59:04 GMT -5
As I was reading it just now, I came across a scene with Steve Lombard. Gah! This guy! I can't even! Was there some kind of iron-clad editorial directive from the highest echelons of power at DC that Steve Lombard had to be in every issue? I wouldn't mind him being so awful if he was a little more interesting. What I can hypothesize is that from a narrative point of view with the arrival of the Bronze Age there was no longer any real dramatic tension with Clark Kent. Lois Lane was no longer a psychopath trying to discover his true identity. His colleagues were on average friendly and he had no real life outside of work. The most exciting thing that happened to him was seeing if he could make it in time to present the 6pm news. So they wanted to introduce a nemesis for Superman's civilian identity. The fact that he was incredibly irritating to readers may have seemed like a plus. "If readers hate him, they will be happy when Superman gets revenge for his pranks!!!" In reality the whole dynamic was really annoying. It wasn't a workplace, it was a high school where they competed to see who was the biggest bully and no one protested. By the way, I read this on the DC Wiki: Could you kindly summarize it for us?
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 28, 2023 8:44:00 GMT -5
By the way, I read this on the DC Wiki: Could you kindly summarize it for us? I didn’t read very much of it. It’s got comments from a number of Superman writers, including Jerry Siegel, Mort Weisinger, Len Wein, Denny O’Neil, Cary Bates, people like that. Jerry Siegel was a pretty firm NO. Weisinger suggested there should be two separate Superman continuities, one where they aren’t married, and one where they are. I just kind of skimmed the rest of it. It’s four pages.
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Post by zaku on Oct 28, 2023 10:54:07 GMT -5
By the way, I read this on the DC Wiki: Could you kindly summarize it for us? I didn’t read very much of it. It’s got comments from a number of Superman writers, including Jerry Siegel, Mort Weisinger, Len Wein, Denny O’Neil, Cary Bates, people like that. Jerry Siegel was a pretty firm NO. Weisinger suggested there should be two separate Superman continuities, one where they aren’t married, and one where they are. I just kind of skimmed the rest of it. It’s four pages. Thank you. I don't remember if Earth-2 Superman was already married in 1977. In this case he was just describing what was already happening
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Post by MDG on Oct 28, 2023 11:29:14 GMT -5
By the way, I read this on the DC Wiki: Could you kindly summarize it for us? I didn’t read very much of it. It’s got comments from a number of Superman writers, including Jerry Siegel, Mort Weisinger, Len Wein, Denny O’Neil, Cary Bates, people like that. Jerry Siegel was a pretty firm NO. Weisinger suggested there should be two separate Superman continuities, one where they aren’t married, and one where they are. I just kind of skimmed the rest of it. It’s four pages. "Honest, Lois, I thought I was in the other continuity!"
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Post by zaku on Oct 28, 2023 13:46:16 GMT -5
I didn’t read very much of it. It’s got comments from a number of Superman writers, including Jerry Siegel, Mort Weisinger, Len Wein, Denny O’Neil, Cary Bates, people like that. Jerry Siegel was a pretty firm NO. Weisinger suggested there should be two separate Superman continuities, one where they aren’t married, and one where they are. I just kind of skimmed the rest of it. It’s four pages. Thank you. I don't remember if Earth-2 Superman was already married in 1977. In this case he was just describing what was already happening 1978! Perhaps they were testing the waters..?
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