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Post by commond on Sept 18, 2022 4:24:49 GMT -5
1998 Will Eisner Comic Industry AwardsWinners and nomineesI was starting to drift away from comics in '97. By the time I started University, my pull list had whittled down to only a few books per month, and I was getting slacker at picking them up. Then the local comic book shops started closing, and I basically gave up on comics. It's kind of ironic, as being a University age student would have been the best time for me to discover all these serious comics, but I had nobody to guide me, and even when I got online, I didn't gravitate towards comics websites. Comics were no longer visible on the newsstands, either. It's amazing how the visibility of comics changed from 1988 to 1998. When I was a kid, there were shelves full of comics in every stationary shop and bookstore. A decade later, and they were all but gone. I don't think I would've begun reading comics if I'd been my sister's age simply because I don't know how I would have discovered them. The big news regarding the Eisners in 1998 was that, for the first time in their existence, someone other than Alan Moore or Neil Gaiman won Best Writer. The winner was Garth Ennis, a deserving choice, though you could probably argue that Kurt Busiek had a strong case as well. Astro City did take home a slew of awards, however. I didn't end up reading Astro City until decades later. I kind of feel that if someone had told me about it in 1997 it might have renewed my interest in comics, but hey, it's never too late. I don't have much of a clue about the 1998 nominees. Castle Waiting looks nice. P. Craig Russell wins another Eisner, and a Harvey to boot, and Mignola also wins again. I'll have to get back into reading Hellboy. Surely, at some point, it must start being deserving of all these Eisner awards. Once more, plenty of Eisners for Bat-related projects.
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 18, 2022 11:40:09 GMT -5
Interesting that Evan Dorkin won with a second Eltingville story; I missed out on some of his SLG work and didn't catch that one.
Busiek was well deserved, as Astro City was that great, especially the single issue win, "Show 'Em All!" That's the one with the Junkman, where he pulls off the perfect crime, then chafes because no one knows it and does it again, with a flaw, to get caught, so that the true story will be told. It really got into the psychology of the gimmick thieves, like Flash's Rogues Gallery, and gave a rationalization for their sensation seeking.
I always thought Hellboy was top notch, from the start; but, I felt it improved when Mignola started fully writing it, instead of Byrne scripting. Mignola just needed the confidence in his writing.
The foreign material love for Gon puzzles me, when you have Vittorio Giardino working a masterpiece, like A Jew in Communist Prague. I guess San Diego preferred cute dinosaurs to coming of age under Communist rule. Nice to see nominations for Rick Geary and Jill Thompson, with his work on infamous historical figures and her Scary Godmother.
I never read Castle Waiting, but always heard nothing but the highest praise for it. I only saw the first issue if Jim Valentino's A Touch of Silver; but, it was good; well above his previous work and above the rest of the Image founder work, in terms of maturity and storytelling.
By this point, I had cut way back on my buying and my regular books were Hellboy, Starman and Astro City, with things like Terminal City: Aerial Graffiti and A Jew in Communist Prague, when they came along. As the 20 years ago thread illustrates, if Alan Moore's ABC line had not come along, and Howard Chakin not started American Century, I would have barely had a reason to enter a comic shop, more than once a quarter. Of course, working for Barnes & Noble gave me plenty of access to things, especially stuff like NBM's albums, while the local comic shops were pretty thin on anything beyond the Big Two, Dark Horse and Image.
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Post by commond on Sept 21, 2022 19:51:05 GMT -5
1999 Will Eisner Comic Industry AwardsWinners and nomineesKurt Busiek gets his Eisner. Incidentally, it's a reversal of the year before, where Astro City won Best Continuing Series and Ennis won Best Writer. This time, Preacher wins best series and Busiek is best writer. I've never read Ennis' Hitman, or his run on The Demon for that matter. I've been a bit disappointed in Ennis' work outside of Hellblazer and Preacher, but one thing that's struck me while exploring the Eisners is how busy some of these writers were with other books. I'm curious if Ennis' writing style was the same on Hitman, or if he altered it to suit a different genre. Fantastic to see Usagi won the Eisner for Grasscutter. That was by far the most ambitious storyline Stan had done to that point. I do not remember 300 being as good as its Eisner would suggest. In fact, I remember 300 being a jumping off point for Frank Miller and myself in terms of buying everything he produced. It won the Harvey too, so clearly the industry didn't agree with me. I wasn't a big fan of the Inhumans, either. It's kind of a surprise to see a Marvel book win an Eisner, though. I'm imagining that changes over the course of the 00s. It felt like most of the awards went to DC and Darkhorse this year. Maybe it's the snob in me, but there must be some independent stuff that was deserving of a few awards. Frank Cho's Liberty Meadows did well at the Ignatz. Age of Bronze and Whiteout catch my eye. The Harveys actually had stronger nominees for this year. I suppose that boils down to the different nomination processes. Paul Dini is another Eisner favorite. He seems to win multiple awards every year. It's kind of funny to see Bendis win the Talent Deserving of Wider Recognition award.
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 22, 2022 21:10:22 GMT -5
My jumping off point for Miller was the subsequent Sin City minis, after the first couple. I just couldn't take that bleak world and misogynistic portrayal of every female character. I read the first issue of 300, saw the bad history and just said, "no." I would rate Grendel: Black, White and Red or Whiteout as a better limited series. Agree on Inhumans, as I don't see what was so special about it, other than the Marvel Knights stuff was better than a lot of in-house product, which is how Quesada ended up running the company anyway.
I am curious as to how Batman Animated qualifies as a Book About Comics. It was a retrospective of the animated series, not the DC comics. It's a beautiful book and helped put Chip Kidd on the map; but, I don't think it should have been eligible for that. the Publication Design award it got, sure.
Bendis as deserving wider recognition based on Aka Goldfish, Jinx and Torso I agree with; it's a shame that he didn't continue with that kind of material as he was a much better writer of that kind of thing then superheroes, for my tastes. Powers was the best superhero stuff, for me and it was still pretty much a police procedural, not a superhero book.
I love Alex Ross' work; but, I find Dan Brereton to be a more interesting painter and storyteller. The Thrillkiller stuff is fine, but I think his Nocturnals stuff was a cut above that, just for being original stuff and not just another Batman riff.
The reprint of foreign material just astounds me; Star Wars Manga....really? Manga was hot, but there was nothing that spectacular about that particular work. Meanwhile, A Jew in Communist Prague is both literature and tremendous visual storytelling.
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Post by commond on Sept 22, 2022 21:42:25 GMT -5
It's worth noting that A Jew in Communist Prague won the Harvey.
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 23, 2022 20:49:07 GMT -5
It's worth noting that A Jew in Communist Prague won the Harvey. I did see that. Just seems weird that Star Wars Manga wins; even Blade of the Immortal seemed a better fit. Makes me wonder if it was a case of the voting reflecting what little had actually been seen. Around that time, NBM seemed to do smaller print runs on later volumes in a series and it became very difficult to find things like that third volume and also the 3rd for Giardino's No Pasaran!, from his Max Fridman series (Hungarian Rhapsody, Orient Gateway and No Pasaran!). Also the second volume of Francois Schuiten's Invisible Frontier. I was getting that stuff through my work (Barnes & Noble), since NBM had decent book distribution; but, missed out on vol 3 of AJICP and No Pasaran. I found a beaten up used for the former and a Spanish language edition of the latter, since I have enough familiarity with Spanish to get the gist of what I am reading (have a much harder time picking up spoken Spanish, due to the rhythms of most speakers).
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Post by commond on Sept 24, 2022 20:46:32 GMT -5
2000 Will Eisner Comic Industry AwardsWinners and nomineesWe've reached the end of the 90s, and you could be mistaken for thinking it was the 80s the way Alan Moore cleans up. By my count, Moore received 13 nominations and won 6 awards. That's quite phenomenal. Somehow, Dan Clowes and Chris Ware manage to sneak awards too. Kyle Baker seems to be doing well of late as the new humorist of choice, and a guy named Tony Millionaire is voted as the talent deserving of greater recognition. That's a great pen name. There are plenty of nominations for ABC and DC/Wildstorm for the 2000 awards, which is a shift away from the publishers that dominated most of the 90s. I've barely read any of the titles nominated. I like Planetary a lot, but The Authority to me is just a glorified superhero comic. League of Extraordinary Gentlemen is okay, but not my favorite work by either Moore or O'Neill. Tom Strong seems like a must-read. Taking a quick look over the list, I quite like Richard Sala, so I'll have to check out that Evil Eye story. Greg Rucka's Whiteout won an Eisner, so I definitely need to read that. Bryan Talbot is another guy I mean to keep an eye on. I've never read Blade of the Immortal, but it seems to have done well in Japan. The Star Wars manga won the Harvey in 2000, so voters seem to have been quite taken with manga in '00. Weasel by Dave Cooper seems to be the big alternative book from this year. Can't say I've head of it, I'm sorry to say, but it's on my radar now.
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 25, 2022 11:53:20 GMT -5
The ABC books kept my interest in mainstream comics going, when it had severely dropped. The superhero books read like stuff I read 20 years before and not much else was on offer from the big publishers. I read other things; but, indie books were more sporadic. I'd wait for another Hellboy mini or something along those lines. Humor books I liked seemed to come and go. The ABC books were a great shot in the arm of the industry, as Alan Moore showed everyone that the way to produce great comics is to use the classic archetypes, but with fresh and well rounded characters. I love League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, as it was a celebration of literary characters, in a world where the stories all exist and interact. It was Phillip Jose Farmer's Wold Newton Universe writ large. Not everything in the books resonated, but I could always skim ahead to the parts I did like, as in Black Dossier (though it was the finale of it where Moore lost me) Promethea got a bit too esoteric for my tastes; but, Tom Strong was my favorite from the first issue. Moore and Chris Sprouse were a perfect team and they give us a mix of Tarzan and Doc Savage, with a post-modern personality and a terrific cast of characters, including a talking gorilla (I always imagine John Cleese's voice coming out of it, for some reason), a mechanical servant and true awesomeness, like self aware biospheres from the paleolithic past, 3-eyed space cowboys, artificial robotic intelligence that replicates exponentially, Nazi valkyries who get smacked down by jungle princesses, and a kid in a fan club who constantly exclaims "Holy socks!" Tomorrow Stories was both funny and subversive, with a mix of characters that were homages to The Spirit, Jack Cole's Plastic Man, boy genius inventors (with less moral certainty), and slinky masked heroines. Loved the Jack B Quick stuff, as the boy genius uses his brilliance to basically be Dennis the Menace, in the more British version. Loved the brilliance of testing the cliches that cats always land on their feet and bread lands butter side down, to create and anti-gravity experiment... Top Ten won for Best New Series and it was my other top favorite of the line: a police procedural in a city where everyone is a superhero/villain/fantastic being. If the great stories and mysteries weren't enough, they were filled with visual easter eggs that made you soak up the wonderful art, by Gene Ha and Xander Cannon. Ha quickly became one of my favorite young artists, between Top Ten (and the 49ers Graphic album) and his Times Past segments in Starman. Nice to se TwoMorrows finally win a best comics-related periodical. For my money, the Jack Kirby Collector had been robbed in the previous couple of years, in favor of the Comics Journal, but, not this time. It wasn't TJKC, but Comic Book Artist, which was my go-to comic magazine. Loved those issues, whether they were looking at Marvel Phase II, the 1980s indies, or devoting entire issues to Atlas/Seaboard, Western/Gold Key, Harvey and Charlton. My Other Guys thread entries drew heavily from those resources, especially Western/Gold Key and Charlton, for the company histories. Sadly, Jon B Cook and the Morrows had a bit of a falling out, leading Comic Book Artist to spit off and TwoMorrows to launch Back Issue. Sadly, the market couldn't seem to support two magazines and Back Issue won out, fine magazine that it is. Sock Monkey actually did well in bookstores, as we got some of that stuff, at Barnes & Noble. By this point, the indies had found book distribution conduits, which helped get their wares to a more appreciative audience. Tony Millionaire was more than just a brilliant name. I am rather amused by Judd Winick being nominated for deserving greater recognition; I mean, the guy became a celebrity on one of the most-watched seasons of MTV's The Real World. He was probably the most well-known person nominated in that category! Barry Ween was fine, but, it is his memoir, Pedro and Me, that is worth reading. It gives a more behind-the-scenes look at his time living with Pedro Zamora, the real World cast member who was HIV Positive and who died of complications from AIDS. Pedro's presence justified the rather self-indulgent world of The Real World (Real people pay rent! as Judd said someone threw at him once), as he used it as a platform to both put a human face on the HIV/AIDS epidemic and also educate people about the disease and safe sex precautions. Winick and wife (and castmate) Pam continued that work and the book fits right in with that. Light years ahead of his work for DC.
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Post by commond on Oct 2, 2022 1:46:28 GMT -5
2001 Will Eisner Comic Industry AwardsWinners and nomineesNow we come to the 2000s. This is uncharted territory for me. I've read several of these runs since I returned to comics, but I don't have a firm grasp of the comic landscape from 2000 onward. I'm excited about the discoveries that lay ahead. Lucifer is the last major Vertigo series I have yet to read. I've read the mini-series that proceeded it, but I've yet to begin the ongoing title. I read 100 Bullets a couple of years ago. It was an entertaining read but didn't really have the same substance as the great Vertigo books. I can see why it was popular among Eisner voters, however, as it has a similar feel to Frank Miller's work. I don't know anything about Bendis' Powers other than the name. It's interesting to see Bendis' rise from a talent deserving of wider recognition to a period of being regarded as the best writer in the business. Tony Millionaire continues to be popular with voters, so I ought to check out his work. P. Craig Russell wins more Eisners. I've always that Russell was highly regarded in the industry, but not to this extent. I really need to check out Age of Bronze. That appears to be one of the early critically acclaimed books published through Image. It's worth noting Darkhorse's release of Lone Wolf and Cub. The original First series was meant to run for 110 issues but ended less than halfway through. Kudos to Darkhorse for finishing the series.
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Post by commond on Oct 2, 2022 20:12:52 GMT -5
I finished Kings in Disguise. The Great Depression is a topic that hadn't been covered in comics very often. The author, Jim Vance, was a playwright, who was adamant that this story could only be told as a comic. This was right around the time when all those articles began to appear about how comics weren't just for kids anymore, and you can feel that type of energy and enthusiasm in the book as the creators attempt to unlock the potential of comics as a storytelling medium. Kings in Disguise wasn't as influential as Maus, but it was part of the same movement that led to the rise of graphic novels, and inspired cartoonists to envision stories in different genres, which honestly speaking, is something that needed to happen if comics were going to continue to develop as an artform. I'm not sure why the series isn't as well known as other books from the era. It didn't sell particularly well, but it was critically acclaimed and drew high praise from the likes of Alan Moore, Wil Eisner, Harvey Kurtzman and Art Spiegelman. I'd never heard of it until I started this thread. Even as a kid, I was aware of the graphic novel books in my local comic store -- the Sandman books, Cerebus, Maus, Love and Rockets, etc. -- but I don't recall ever seeing Kings in Disguise. At first, I thought it might be because the art isn't quite as strong as some of those books. In fact, it's quite of striking when the early issues have covers done by some of the more popular independent artists of the day. However, the art grew on me when I read a letter from Mike Baron that pointed out the EC comics influence in the panel layout. Burr isn't as good as the EC guys, who were master cartoonists, but the EC style grid is a nice fit for the story and suits the tone of a period piece. I believe Vance and Burr published a sequel to the story decades later.
The American had a lot of potential as an ongoing series, and then it ended abruptly, mid-storyline, which was the fate of a lot of intriguing indies during the boom and bust cycle. I'm not sure if the later mini-series picks up where the ongoing series left off, but after reading a handful of cancelled Eisner nominee/winners, I have a new found respect for creators who managed to somehow complete their series.
Comics should be fun, and I had a blast reading Charles Burns' Hard-Boiled Defective Stories, Batman Adventures: Mad Love, and the short-lived, but delightful, Tantalizing Tales. Hard-Boiled Defective Stories was an attempt to cash in on the success of Maus by publishing Burns' short stories as a graphic album and sticking them in book stores. Unfortunately, for the other creators, Maus was the only book that sold, but the mix of pro-wrestling and weird pulp fiction/film noir stories was right up my alley. Mad Love was by far the best of the Batman related Eisner nominees I read. The other books were good, but Mad Love was a joy, and surprisingly dark at times. I absolutely adore Jim Woodring's Frank stories, but I also loved the issue of Tantalizing Tales that had Gerald Jablonski's Farmer Ned strips. Those were brilliant.
Personally, I thought Bratpack was Rick Veitch's strongest work up until that point, even if it was a spiteful attack on DC and kind of nasty in that respect, but the ending was a massive letdown. He didn't stick the landing whatsoever. Fantastic art, though.
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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 2, 2022 20:52:40 GMT -5
Age of Bronze is very good; and, sadly, unfinished. Shanower really did his research, as this is more than just a retelling of Homer's Iliad; he used other sources. He never presents the gods as real, but as they were perceived by the Greeks and treats the heroes as if they are historical, which most had some historical basis. Shanower is just a fantastic storyteller. If you have never seen his Oz adaptations, I would seek them out.
Powers was an interesting series, for a while. I read it for about a year, year and a half and it was a good pairing between Bendis' writing and Michael Avon Oeming's art. Like Alan Moore's (and Gene Ha and Zander Cannon) Top Ten, it is a police procedural, centered around superheroes, with a pair of cops, one of whom was once a superhero. They start out investigating the murder of a superheroine and move on to other crimes, from there. It is filled with the usual buddy cop and procedural tropes, but the mix with superheroes gives it a freshness, while the crime fiction elements bring a freshness to superheroes. Bendis is still overly in love with David Mamet's writing technique; but, his dialogue isn't as showy as in things like AKA Goldfish and Jinx. Oeming was a terrific artist and I also enjoyed his Hammer of the Gods work. He has an animation-influenced style, with nice clean lines, but excellent storytelling and dynamic action.
Russell's opera adaptations have always been gorgeous and his ability to draw beautiful male characters makes him the envy of his peers. Many can do virile he-men and some can do :handsome," but he is almost unique in doing "gorgeous" men. I read a Comics Journal interview with him and that facet was brought up and he just kind of chuckled and said, "It's probably because I'm gay." That was where I discovered he was gay, as I had never had a reason to think he was of any orientation; but, the response made sense. A gay male artist probably would develop an ability for drawing really good looking men, if they had the talent, depending on what their "type" was. You have artists who specialized in gorgeous women, from pin-up types (like Dave Stevens) to model-like features (like John Romita); so why not the same, in a gay artist? This award was for the Ring of the Nibelung, which was kind of his personal magnum opus, for his opera adaptations. He really excelled at capturing the stories and epic nature of the German operas, like this and Parsifal. I always enjoyed his work, but, this one hooked me for his opera work and I hunted down all the collections of the previous ones.
I see Judd Winick nominated for Pedro & Me, which I discussed on the previous year's nominations. It is Winick's best work and gives a much more personal account of Pedro Zamora than The Real World could. It also gave you a kind of behind the scenes look at the show. Prior to that, the only thing I ever saw touch on it, that didn't come from MTV, was a magazine article, by Dominic Griffin, the Irish member of the second season Los Angeles cast. He told of how people acted differently when the cameras weren't rolling, vs when they were filming and how the edits changed the story of things that were filmed. For instance, Jon Brennan, the aspiring country singer, was portrayed as a nice, small town Christian singer; yet, when the cameras were off, he knew every profane lyric of rap songs. Most of the cast were aspiring performers and had seen the first season and played for the cameras, apart from Aaron Behle, who was a student and wasn't around the house as much. Not surprisingly, he refused to participate in the official book and cast reunion (as did Griffin, as they portrayed him as a heavy drinker, through selective editing). Winnick's book included things like MTV told them up front that one of the cast (before they met each other) was HIV Positive, but didn't say who. Most believed it was Puck (David Rainey), because he had a very thin build and a lot of scabs. As Winick said in the book, it turned out he just fell down a lot. The art in it is Winick's, as he also did in Barry Ween, Boy Genius; but, you could see that his writing skills were better than his cartooning skills, which is why he ended up as a writer, instead of an artist or even writer/artist. He had done some commercial art for the Complete Idiot's Guide series of books (competitor to For Dummies series of how-to books) and had hoped to use the series to help put his name out there and had submitted a cartoon-based audition for the show.
In the Best Continuing series, Jason Lutes' Berlin is an excellent work. It took quite a while to complete; but it is a fantastic look at the latter days of Weimar Germany and the rise of the Nazis and makes a nice companion to things like Cabaret, Belin Alexanderplatz and Babylon Berlin.
This stage of the Eisners also demonstrates that a lot of work was coming from outside the traditional comic book publishers, as the book industry had embraced graphic novels as a format beyond the previous works and especially for a lot of alternative comics work. Sock Monkey was a big seller for us, at Barnes & Noble, in collected form and Alison Bechdel's Dykes to Watch Out For sold well in our Gay & Lesbian section. Her subsequent auto-biographical works were even bigger sellers, gaining a lot of attention from the non-comics world, as had also shined on Chris Ware and, later, Dan Clowes. Jessica Abel is nominated in at least one category and we sold quite a bit of her work, too. Jill Thompson turned Scary Godmother into a series of YA books, which did well in our Childrens Department, as did Akiko, which had several previous nominations. Bone ended up a huge seller, when Jeff Smith hooked up with Scholastic, to issue the color trade collections. Then, The Invention of Hugo Cabret won the 2008 Caldecott Medal, for illustrated childrens' books, bluring the lines between a graphic novel and traditional children's literature illustration.
The First Comics Lone Wolf was published as individual stories, rather than the phone book collections, which Dark Horse wisely decided to reprint, rather than try to make it more western, in format. It was nice to finally have the whole saga reprinted, especially as that was about the last First Comics title I had continued, up until the bankruptcy.
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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 2, 2022 21:21:00 GMT -5
I finished Kings in Disguise. The Great Depression is a topic that hadn't been covered in comics very often. The author, Jim Vance, was a playwright, who was adamant that this story could only be told as a comic. This was right around the time when all those articles began to appear about how comics weren't just for kids anymore, and you can feel that type of energy and enthusiasm in the book as the creators attempt to unlock the potential of comics as a storytelling medium. Kings in Disguise wasn't as influential as Maus, but it was part of the same movement that led to the rise of graphic novels, and inspired cartoonists to envision stories in different genres, which honestly speaking, is something that needed to happen if comics were going to continue to develop as an artform. I'm not sure why the series isn't as well known as other books from the era. It didn't sell particularly well, but it was critically acclaimed and drew high praise from the likes of Alan Moore, Wil Eisner, Harvey Kurtzman and Art Spiegelman. I'd never heard of it until I started this thread. Even as a kid, I was aware of the graphic novel books in my local comic store -- the Sandman books, Cerebus, Maus, Love and Rockets, etc. -- but I don't recall ever seeing Kings in Disguise. At first, I thought it might be because the art isn't quite as strong as some of those books. In fact, it's quite of striking when the early issues have covers done by some of the more popular independent artists of the day. However, the art grew on me when I read a letter from Mike Baron that pointed out the EC comics influence in the panel layout. Burr isn't as good as the EC guys, who were master cartoonists, but the EC style grid is a nice fit for the story and suits the tone of a period piece. I believe Vance and Burr published a sequel to the story decades later. The American had a lot of potential as an ongoing series, and then it ended abruptly, mid-storyline, which was the fate of a lot of intriguing indies during the boom and bust cycle. I'm not sure if the later mini-series picks up where the ongoing series left off, but after reading a handful of cancelled Eisner nominee/winners, I have a new found respect for creators who managed to somehow complete their series. Comics should be fun, and I had a blast reading Charles Burns' Hard-Boiled Defective Stories, Batman Adventures: Mad Love, and the short-lived, but delightful, Tantalizing Tales. Hard-Boiled Defective Stories was an attempt to cash in on the success of Maus by publishing Burns' short stories as a graphic album and sticking them in book stores. Unfortunately, for the other creators, Maus was the only book that sold, but the mix of pro-wrestling and weird pulp fiction/film noir stories was right up my alley. Mad Love was by far the best of the Batman related Eisner nominees I read. The other books were good, but Mad Love was a joy, and surprisingly dark at times. I absolutely adore Jim Woodring's Frank stories, but I also loved the issue of Tantalizing Tales that had Gerald Jablonski's Farmer Ned strips. Those were brilliant. Personally, I thought Bratpack was Rick Veitch's strongest work up until that point, even if it was a spiteful attack on DC and kind of nasty in that respect, but the ending was a massive letdown. He didn't stick the landing whatsoever. Fantastic art, though. Kings in Disguise was from Kitchen Sink, which always kind of struggled to get attention on their books, aside from the Spirit reprints and Eisner's graphic novels. Dennis Kitchen started out in the Undergrounds and his early publishing was primarily that kind of material, until he started doing the Spirit, after Warren had reprinted some of it. You started to see a wider variety of things, by the early to mid-80s; but, Capitol and some of the better regional distributors were the only ones who really promoted their books. The Comics Journal did, to a certain extent; but, Fantagraphics was competing for a similar audience; so, there were some personal biases there. Kitchen Sink did the collected edition of Kings in Disguise, though a new reprint was put out, in 2006, by WW Norton, with an intro from Alan Moore. A sequel finally came out in 2013, to high praise. I think timing worked against it, more than anything, as well as the nature of independent publishing, when it was produced. I think I had Hard-Boiled defective Stories; looking at the book. I know I had some of the El Borbah stuff, in non-collected; but I don't have book collections anymore, since switching to digital. Always enjoyed Charles Burns' work, especially El Borbah. At one point, I got heavily into lucha culture and subscribed to a fanzine, From Parts Unknown and had a few comics works, like Rafael Navaro's Somnambulo (a luchador-turned-private detective) and Jaime Hernandez's Whoa, Nellie, with the characters Xochitl and Gina, from the later Love & Rockets issues and guest appearances from Maggie and her aunt, Vicky Glory. Those were all way better than most attempts to mix pro wrestling and comics (like Marvel's WCW comic or Valiant's WWF Battlemania comic). The ending of Bratpack depends on which version you read, though neither ending is that great, if you ask me. The comic featured one character, despite the logical identity of Dr Blasphemy, as presented through the course of the story. The collected edition altered the reveal to be the more logical character. I still think it is a much better read that Maximortal, though the back-up story, a fictionalized accound of Siegel and Shuster and how they were screwed over, is the better section of the work. The American: Lost In America does pick up where the series left off. There was a Special, which followed the cancellation of the original series, which leads into Lost in America. The American ends up going off to kind of find himself, after the end of the government project that put him into the suit and ends up falling into a cult. Creator Mark Verheiden is a criminally underrated writer. I also enjoyed The Mark, which was another early dark Horse superhero book, about a fictional fascist dictatorship, where genetic experiments have gone on. One of them, while masquerading as being mentally ill, in an asylum, secretly sneaks out to carry out acts of rebellion, while wearing a mask and costume, displaying a symbol that is the reverse of the State's symbol (they were variations of < and >). That had featured some art on the later issues, by Larry Stroman, before he worked for marvel (and did Tribe, at Image) and was cancelled even quicker. It was part of the Mayhem anthology (along with Mecha and The Mask) and then got it's own mini-series, The Mark in America, as the hero follows the dictator on a visit to the US (story picking up from the Mayhem issues). The American's original issues were at least collected by Dark Horse; but, The Mark never was and I have only found the original issues and Mayhem, in digital form; but not the mini-series. I have digital for all of The American.
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Post by commond on Oct 8, 2022 22:41:39 GMT -5
2002 Will Eisner Comic Industry AwardsWinners and nomineesWe're beginning to see more Marvel work nominated for Eisners. Traditionally, the nominating panel hadn't acknowledged a lot of Marvel work, aside from a few Epic books, Frank Miller's work, Marvels, and individual talent here and there. The nominations seem to recognize the efforts Joe Quesada had made to attract new talent and provide them a license to do good work, as well as the relative success of the Marvel imprints, creatively speaking. It always struck me as strange that Marvel didn't make more of an effort to create their own Mature Readers line at the time when DC books were being recognized outside of comics. They experimented with the black and white magazines in the late 70s-early 80s, and Archie Goodwin worked his butt off to give us Epic comics, but I guess they never saw any money in it. Quesada's imprints strike me as more of a Black Label gimmick than a true Mature Readers imprint like Vertigo, but they were a step in the right direction. I haven't read the Eisner-winning Spider-Man story (I bailed on Spider-Man before the Clone Saga), but it's amazing to me, pun intended, that a Spider-Man story won an Eisner after years of every mainstream superhero title being in the shadow of the Bat books. Morrison's X-Men is also nominated. It's interesting to note that Morrison has never won an Eisner. I believe he was voted into their Hall of Fame this year, but his work has never won an award. Alan Moore and Neil Gaiman had a stranglehold on the Best Writer award for over a decade, but it seems Morrison's rep in the industry wasn't as strong as theirs, even though in my mind they are synonymous with one another. Bendis scores Best Writer, and as a Marvel Writer predominantly. That's a first in the history of the awards. I have read a grand total of one Bendis run. The first issue I open blew my mind with how dialogue-heavy it was, but gradually I came to appreciate his cinema-influenced writing style. I'm a cinema lover, and comics have a ton of potential as a cinematic style storytelling medium. He may have drawn too heavily from his influences at times, but at least he was trying to raise the bar. Incidentally, the 90s is genuinely regarded as a creatively barren time at Marvel, but I think a best of 90s Marvel list would be pretty fun and esoteric. I used to love participating in Best of 1980s Cinema polls for the same reason, and 80s music polls too. 100 Bullets was definitely the "it" comic at this time. It did well in the Harveys as well. It's interesting to note that there were quite a few creators dabbling in the crime genre in the 90s and 00s. That's what I like to see. Branching out into different genres is good for the health of the industry. I find it strange that Dan Clowes is suddenly being recognized by the voters. Is this a case of a creator starting to be noticed outside of the industry and his peers looking to validate the recognition? Ice Haven is fine, but personally I prefer the body of his Eightball work more and would have recognized him sooner. Congrats to local New Zealand artist, Dylan Horrocks! Nice guy. I was very fond of Pickle, and the work he had done in our weekly magazine, The Listener, but lost track of what he was doing when I dropped out of comics. I really need to check out that Jeff Smith and Charles Vess Rose book. The Golem's Mighty Swing is mighty interesting too. I wouldn't call myself a huge Dave McKean fan, but I didn't realize he produced so much work post-Sandman covers and Neil Gaiman collaborations. Evan Dorkin continues to be nominated frequently, so I should also pursue his work. Todd Klein was a busy man in 2001.
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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 9, 2022 15:16:58 GMT -5
My own involvement with comics is waning, more and more, by this stage. It's pretty much the ABC books, the odd Hellboy project, Starman (which was ending), American Century, European reprints and the odd one-shot or mini. The Spider-Man story is due to the talent of Joe Straczynski, who brought a higher level of writing to the character than had been seen in a long time. By a similar token, Greg Rucka brought literary influences to comics, as he was a published novelist and was putting out the excellent spy series, Queen & Country, which got a nomination and a win.
I never read 100 Bullets, so I really have no idea how good it was. With the Eisners, I sometimes think it didn't matter as much, for DC or Marvel, so long as it was better than their norm. Some of their projects that won or were nominated were very deserving and others just make you think it wasn't a strong field, that year. The indies had to really have groundbreaking, excellent stuff, to even be considered, it seemed. Batman dark Victory as best reprint album is an example. Generally speaking, I like the Loeb & Sale material; but, wasn't that blown away by Long Halloween and thought Dark Victory was kind of derivative. I felt like I had already read this stuff, in the 80s. That general feeling was why my interest in mainstream works had eroded. By contrast, Belin, Stray Bullets and Box Office Poison were all more developed works, to my tastes. With the archival reprint, Akira was nice; but, The Alex Toth Zorro and Howard Cruse's Wendell were more of the kind of thing I liked to see collected. Akira was amazing visuals; but, I was never that blown away by the story or the characters. probably the bleakness of it, as that tends to turn me off. Howard Cruse is woefully under-represented when people talk about comics, since he came out of the Underground world and was a gay cartoonist, though not all of his works revolve around gay experiences and culture, though Wendell is decidedly in that area. I think his work got better exposure in bookstores than it ever did in comic shops.
Nice to see Herobear recognized, which was a delightful series, from Mike Kunkel. Kunkel went on to do what DC should have done all along and gave us a kid-friendly version of Captain Marvel, with Billy Batson & the Power of Shazam, where he didn't talk down to the audience. It was fun while it lasted. In that category, Patty Cake, from Scott Roberts, was a pure joy. It reminded me of the spirit of Calvin and Hobbes, as there was that same anarchic fun that real childhood antics bring, as well as a bit of warmth, when it was called for. Patty read like a real child and Roberts was a fine cartoonist.
I love the Radioactive Man specials but have to wonder how the humor stacks up against some of the others. Evan Dorkin's material has always struck me as more broadly funny, but I have not read Jungle Belle. I did read Barry Ween, which I thought was okay, but not especially funny or top rank, though it had its cheerleaders. Bizzaro Comics got itself into political pickles, but I thought most of it was kind of average stuff.
Dan Clowes getting mainstream recognition for the Ghost World movie probably did much to raise his profile in comics, though he was nominated often, in the past. It got him into book stores, where he proved a good seller. Kind of the same thing when the American Splendor film came out, as we sold a lot of the collection that was put out of material, related to the film, when before, about the only thing we sold of Pekar's was Our Cancer Year.
Nice to see Ministry of Space mentioned for something, if only the coloring. I greatly enjoyed it; but, it seems like a warren Ellis book that passed people buy. I kind of found it to be a more subversive take on a Dan Dare kind of thing than Dare had been.
In regards Morrison, I'm on record as thinking he is vastly over-rated, though I do enjoy some of his work. To my eyes, one of his problems is that he is far less original than Moore or Gaiman and less entertaining than Miller, when he was on his game. A large chunk of his work wears its influences on their sleeves, without seeming to add much of his own. Many of his works felt Moore-Lite, or Moorcock-Lite, to me. That said, I liked Zenith, despite not finding it that fresh an idea. I liked what he did with it, for the first three books, then thought he flubbed the landing, when he tried going all multiverse with it. All-Star Supmern I greatly enjoyed, though mostly because it read like my favorite Superman writer, Elliot Maggin. I liked Sebastian O and some of Doom Patrol, but felt some was weird for weirdness sake. Animal Man I read a small bit of the beginning. His later stuff is mixed, for me. I tried 7 Soldiers and stopped with the first set. It didn't work for me and I didn't care enough about any of the individual segments to continue. I liked bits and pieces of his Batman material, haven't read the X-Men stuff. I was amused to see him throw out a knock-off of Diabolik and Fantomas, to an audience largely ignorant of them. Morrison, I think, is one of those guys who, if you are attuned to his influences, you don't get the same experience as those who are oblivious to him and think him a genius. I also think he talks a load of bollox in interviews, which colors some of his work, for me. I think Moore plays a role for the public, but I also think he does it better than Morrison.
But, that's just my view. In terms of talent, even his most derivative stuff is at a level above much of the industry and he is more consistent in quality than most of his contemporaries, depending on your tastes. I just don't see him as any kind of "comic god," like his praises were being sung, over the last couple of decades.
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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 9, 2022 15:18:44 GMT -5
ps Your link takes you to the thread, rather than the Eisner lists.
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