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Post by commond on Aug 13, 2022 22:13:33 GMT -5
I've decided to start a little project where I take a look at the winners and nominees for each year of the Eisner Awards and see if I can discover any forgotten or overlooked books, as well as getting a snapshot of the state of the industry and some insight into what comic book professionals thought of their peers' work. I should have probably started with the Kirbys, but I was already knee deep into 1987 comic books when the idea dawned on me. This isn't meant to be a review thread. Just me reading comics and sharing some random thoughts about the Eisners. 1988 Will Eisner Comic Industry Awards Winners and nominees
The first thing you notice about the nominees for the '88 Eisners is the usual suspects -- Cerebus, Love and Rockets, Matt Wagner's ongoing Grendel series, Zot! Watchmen, unsurprisingly, won a lot of the awards. Concrete was the new kid of the block and did well. I was surprised at how well regarded Steve Rude was among his peers, taking out two of the artist awards. And hey, how about that Todd McFarlane nomination? Nice to see Doug Wildey getting some respect, not only for his beautifully illustrated Jonny Quest Classics, but his Rio graphic novel as well. If you like westerns, you should give Rio a read. Wildey forgoes all the cliches of the genre and delivers a true western, painstakingly illustrated by a true master. Wildey had a unique working style where he'd pencil, ink, letter and colour every single panel before moving onto the next. You can feel the effort that goes into each panel. It's truly magnificent. The Best Single Issue goes to Gumby's Summer Fun Special by Bob Burden and Art Adams. I've been seeing the house ad for this in the Comico books I've been reading lately. It's a fun book. It could easily pass as a recycled Flaming Carrot script and gives Art Adams the chance to draw all sorts of cool stuff like spacemen, aliens and ghosts and ghouls. Not to mention pirates. The plot is practically incomprehensible as it unfolds with the same random logic as childhood imaginary play, but it's a delight to read. Very odd to read a twisted Gumby story by burgeoning superstar, Art Adams, but he gets to cut loose here and have fun drawing just about whatever he likes. Now onto the stuff I had no idea about. I sampled the first issue of each of the following: Eddy Current. I am familiar with Ted McKeever from his work for Vertigo, but I had no idea he had a series in '87 that was as well regarded as Love and Rockets, etc. Eddy Current is a weird story about a young man who gets the chance to escape from an insane asylum for twelve hours. A fitting premise for McKeever's twisted, distorted art. Kafka is an early Steven Seagle series from Renegade Press. It's a sci-fi noir with some fairly expressive artwork. Kind of a loose connection to Kafka, but interesting enough. Valkryie has gorgeous Paul Gulacy art. I immediately wanted to read everything else Gulacy has done after the first issue. I've always thought Chuck Dixon was a solid pro, so I felt like I was in good hands here. The American by screenwriter, Mark Verheiden, was apparently one of Darkhorse's first big hits. It's a typical 1980s deconstruction of superheroes, but I enjoyed it a lot. Plus that stuff is back in vogue with the success of The Boys. Great art from Chris Warner. Probably my favorite of the newly discovered series. Next up: I'm gonna finish these 1987 series and maybe tackle that Space Ghost Special, which I've never actually read before. I've never read Batman: Son of the Demon, but I'm a bit wary of Mike Barr's DC work as the Outsiders is one of the worst books on my reading list. If you're a fan, convince me otherwise!
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Post by earl on Aug 14, 2022 6:49:51 GMT -5
Don't gauge Mike Barr's Batman by his Outsiders comic, which I got wonder was kinda wacky as Jim Aparo might have really liked doing those crazy Bob Haney Brave and the Bold stories. Duke of Oil? Nuclear Family? Oddball villains and I got to think some of that was Aparo might have been designing some of the characters.
Son of the Demon is not like those at all, it is a pretty straight and true to the original O'Neil/Adams Ra's Al Ghul. I think the choice of Jerry Bingham was pretty on the nose as he even had a definite Neal Adams style. It was intended to be a stand alone tale, but has seemingly held up a bit over the years as Grant Morrison's creation of Damian is pretty much a nod at the tale. I loved it as a teenager back in the 80s and thought it held up pretty well when I read it a few years back. The sequel of 'Bride of the Demon' is ok and also spawned an origin of Ra's graphic novel by O'Neil - all three of which have been compiled together in a trade.
Mike Barr also has at least one other definite classic Batman tale in Batman Special #1 which featured The Wraith and had awesome Mike Golden artwork.
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Post by Calidore on Aug 14, 2022 8:46:21 GMT -5
I've got a pretty complete collection of Concrete but haven't looked at it in decades. I really need to reread it and see if it holds up.
Eddy Current was terrific! It's collected, so do check it out if you can.
Space Ghost gives you what you'd expect from pretty much the perfect creative team for a Space Ghost comic.
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 14, 2022 14:57:49 GMT -5
Concrete was so different from everything out there and done in such a gentle style that you had to take notice. On the surface, you look of it and think Ben Grimm. then, you read it and it is a character study of real people, with real emotions and it is so delightful and engaging and well done, from a name you had never heard of, in most cases.
Space Ghost was a perfect love letter to Alex Toth and the cartoon series, which was a favorite of a generation.
In 1987-88, in fan press, you kept hearing Dark Knight, Watchmen, Love & Rockets, Grendel, Maus, Concrete, Alan Moore, Frank Miller, Paul Chadwick, Los Bros Hernandez, Art Spiegelman. If you paid attention beyond superheroes, there was stuff like Neil the Horse, Ms Tree, Eddy Current, Airboy and related, Scout, Jonny Quest, Lone Wolf & Cub, Mai the Psychic Girl, Miracleman, Grimjack, the Turtles, etc.
Dark Horse was just that; a sleeper company who snuck up on you. Concrete got them critical acclaim and The American and Aliens got them some commercial success. I loved the American, though Chris Warner's art wasn't consistent and Grant Miehm was less polished. It was a great little twist on Captain America, not far off what Chuck Dixon attempted with Strike!, at Eclipse. A government funded and controlled patriotic hero, who wasn't much of a hero and reflected a certain cynicism about the Reagan Era Patriotism, with a certain reactionary base to it. America the Great, while propping up fascist dictators and selling arms to antagonistic countries that supported terrorists. It is a definite satire of that and 50s nostalgia, giving you a nice kick in the pants when they reveal the history of the American project. problem was, the idea was a short term one, at best. Once the whole initial plot was played out, there really wasn't a place to go with it and they struggled to move on, before laying it to rest. They had a few more issues of a regular series and one special, then the 4 issue Lost in America mini. Similar problems with The Mark, another superhero attempt, about a super soldier, created from fascist experiments on "undesirables," which results in a revolutionary hero. It struggled through 6 issues, the 4 issues of the anthology, Mayhem, and a mini-series where the hero comes to America.
Rio is a thing of beauty, even if you aren't a western fan. It's a damn good story and gorgeously illustrated.
The Eisner's tended to eschew the industry standard comics, so it is interesting to look at the nominated titles and creators. In Best Single Issue, the lone mainstream book is Justice League International #1 (actually just Justice League #1). It was pretty damn different, at the time, than what had come before or was on the stands. A superhero comedy, yet it still has an adventure story within it. People tend to forget that the comedy was mixed with action, during that run, especially at the start.
Best Finite Series has Elektra: Assassin, Green Arrow: The Longbow Hunters, and Watchmen. Elektra was Miller & Sienkiewicz, going totally gonzo bat-@#$%! It subverted Elektra, yet reinforced the character from daredevil, with a visual style that was like an acid trip. Longbow Hunters is an urban crime story, with Green Arrow played as a hunter, rather than a gimmick. It totally revamped the character into an urban vigilante, rather than a batman knock off/crossed with Robin Hood. It further launched a long run for Grell, on the character and set the tone for every Green Arrow comic to follow and the Arrow tv series. It was "grim & gritty" done well. Watchman was the deconstructionist masterpiece, a psychological study of masked vigilantes and their psychoses and the tropes and cliches of superhero stories laid against Cold War politics and Reagan/Thatcher Society. It wasn't the average Avengers or Superman comic.
Best Graphic Album has Batman: Son of the Demon, which is pretty much Batman as done by Denny O'Neil and Neal Adams, in the early 70s. it has a James Bond plot and villain, but more mature approach than most Batman comics. It seems less than it is, as it follows dark Knight, but that is Batman at the end of his game,. This is prime Batman. One notable nominee is Night and the Enemy, from Comico. it features Harlan Ellison stories, adapted by Ken Steacy. Steacy was such a tremendous artist and this fed right into his strengths; but, he wasn't prolific enough to develop a superstar name and it was sold solely on the basis of Harlan Ellison's name. It didn't help that Comico was sinking a lot of money in trying to distribute on newsstands, pushing things like Elementals and Justice Machine, which were traditional superheroes. What was selling in comic shops was Grendel, Jonny Quest (for the first year) and Robotech (to the burgeoning manga/anime audience).
Best Writer gets Alan Moore for Watchmen, which is no surprise. Moore and Gibbons are the lone nomination for team, from the mainstream. best Artist brings more DC/Marvel nominations, with Todd McFarlane and George Perez.
Best Art Team gets into a cult world at DC: Denys Cowan and Rcik Magyar, for The Question and Kevin Maguire and Al Gordon for Justice League. They are really opposite ends of the spectrum, yet they were also outliers, for DC art. Justice League was really built on the strength of Maguires facility for facial expressions and body language, which really helped sell the jokes. He was a fair hand at action, too; not quite a Joe Staton level (with a similar lighter, but expressive style). It wasn't Perez and it wasn't Steve Lightle or Don Newton or Jerry Ordway. Cowan & Magyar were doing something that had more in common with the proto-Vertigo titles, like Swamp Thing and Doom Patrol. It was a scratchier, harsher line, which lent atmosphere to the very dark and grim world of Hub City. These were urban crime stories, with a philosophical bent to them, dressed in superhero clothes. It had more in common with Eisner's The Spirit, in that it looked like a superhero, but read as anything but a superhero. It was by far the best non-Ditko take on The Question and one hell of a read, during the period.
If you examine the Comic Buyer's Guide Awards, which were fan voted awards, the lists are vastly different, though things like Watchmen feature quite heavily, as does Love & Rockets. However, you see fewer things like Zot or Rio. The Harvey Awards had the opposite end, with almost an entire focus on independent comics, blanketly excluding DC or Marvel books, with rare exceptions.
I recall fans getting bent out of shape that Art Adams was doing Gumby comics and not more X-Men related titles. They desperately wanted him on the regular series, yet he wasn't fast enough. I think similar things were said about Brian Bolland and, later, Adam Hughes. They wanted them to do whole titles, regularly; but, they could make better money and hit deadlines with covers and single issues or short works.
It's interesting to look at the landscape of the industry, in 1988 vs 5 years later. There is a boom in independent companies, but most would crash and burn within 5 years. Some others sprung up to replace them, but died similar deaths. Between 1984 and 1987, the industry went from 10 regular independent publishers to about 170, with the various self publishers and quickie cash ins on the Black & White Boom, spawned by the TMNT. Most of those were gone by the following year; but, several publishers launched in 1987, with color and/or black & white. That was probably the height of the Direct Market, in terms of industry sales across thebaord, rather than dominated by a select few companies, though it was still dominated by the bigger players. dark Horse was the real success from the class of publishers that arose out of that time, with Fantagraphics as one of the few still going, in some form.
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Post by shaxper on Aug 14, 2022 21:20:46 GMT -5
I've got a pretty complete collection of Concrete but haven't looked at it in decades. I really need to reread it and see if it holds up. It really does. Depressing as all heck, but powerful and weighty.
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Post by commond on Aug 19, 2022 8:14:14 GMT -5
1989 Will Eisner Comic Industry AwardsWinners and nominees
1988 was the year I began reading comics. You wouldn't think a whippersnapper like me would be reading Eisner nominated comics in 1988, but Excalibur, Daredevil and Amazing Spider-Man received nominations, and those were books that appealed to me off the racks in 1988. What's up with McFarlane being nominated for an Eisner two years in a row? There were a lot more nominees this year, particularly from Kitchen Sink Press. I'm not sure if there was any friction between the Eisners and the Harveys, but it seems like the Eisners was giving Fantagraphics the cold shoulder. Concrete remains a critical darling. Alan Moore and Brian Bolland win a ton of awards for The Killing Joke, not only in the Eisners but across the industry. I know TKJ isn't the most popular Batman story around here, but I thought it was a nice piece of work. Maybe not the best comic of the year, but an excellent companion piece to the rest of Moore's DC work. Nice to see William Messner-Loebs get a nomination for Best Writer. Some of the new series mentioned had been around for a few years, like Xenozoic Tales and Omaha the Cat Dancer. I don't know if they were better or worse in 1988, but I like both books. Xenozoic Tales has a Sunday strip feel to it. I was surprised by how critically acclaimed Kings in Disguise was. Now there's a title you never hear about anymore. A lot of the art on these late 80s indy books is rough as guts, but Kings in Disguise has decent cartoon work. The art in Scarlet in Gaslight almost ruins it for me. Speaking of art, am I the only one who dislikes the Pander Brothers? The graphic novel category is probably the most interesting. You have work by Charles Burns and Moebius. Quite a bit of reprinted work but interesting nonetheless.
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 19, 2022 21:32:02 GMT -5
There was definite bad blood between Fantagraphics and the Eisner Awards; but, Fantagraphics, as a comic book publisher, is still very young, at this point and Love & Rockets was the pinnacle of what they were publishing. Their line expands as we get into the 90s and we get Chris Ware, Dan Clowes and Peter Bagge, as well as Roberta Gregory and others.
Kitchen Sink was doing quite well, at this point, with some excellent books. This time frame also reflects the fact that there are more distributors around; so, indie books have more outlets. Capital was far more friendly to the indies than Diamond, but you also had several regional distributors, like Heroes World, who would give greater support to non-DC & Marvel.
DC continues to mostly be represented by the proto-Vertigo titles. That official imprint didn't appear until 1993; but, editor Karen Berger was already a force at DC and Alan Moore was at the center of that. By 1988, we have further UK talent appearing in US comics.
Scarlet in Gaslight was definitely praised more for the writing than the art.
I like the Pander Brothers' stuff, to a point. Some of it works better in certain stories than in others. I enjoyed their work on Grendel and Ginger Fox. They certainly captured the style of the 80s and had a zest for fashion, which far too many artists lack. I actually collected works of several artists along these lines, like the Panders, Daniel Torres (Rocco Vargas), Igort (Dulled Feelings) and a few other European artists.
Kings in Disguise was a really great work, capturing the Depression era quite well. Kitchen Sink had some tremendous talent there and were reprinting some seminal comic strip work. I really missed them after they closed shop, in the wake of the distributor wars of the 90s.
Looking at the art team category, I see the Grendel team there. This was the Eppy Thatcher/Orion Asante storyline ("God and the Devil"), which I felt was one of the strongest, though I'm not totally sure it stuck the landing. That was kind of a problem with Wagner and Grendel, in that it often started a storyline brilliantly and carried it on for a bit; but, the ending didn't always leave you satisfied or live up to the earlier stages.
Looking at DC entries, it's proto-Vertigo and The Question, the most "Vertigo-like" or the superhero series. That and Alan Moore. Killing Joke is more a Vertigo Batman than a O'Neil/Adams or Miller Batman.
I would say you could ask, "Did the Eisner's have it in for Marvel?" Actually, I would say that was a reflection of how little imaginative work was emerging from there. Epic was pretty much it for anything other than standard fare. Those days were coming to a close, as Archie Goodwin would leave for DC, in 1989. Shooter is gone; but, DeFalco isn't exactly encouraging the blazing of new territory. You have the Stan Lee and Moebius Silver Surfer, which was probably more nominated for Moebius than Lee. Excalibur and Daredevil get some love and they weren't your average Marvel title, of that period. Beyond that you get Todd McFarlane and John Romita Jr & Al Williamson, as a team. McFarlane was pretty different from the bulk of the Marvel artists and was doing some eye-catching graphic work, if not the greatest storytelling. JRJR was now firmly working in his evolved style and was bigger and bolder than before and Williamson complimented him. However, when the votes came in, only Alan Davis and Paul Neary won anything, for Excalibur.
I'd have to research if that is Dave McKean's first appearance as a nominee; but, it won't be his last.
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Post by commond on Aug 20, 2022 4:49:16 GMT -5
Did Stan Lee actually write that Moebius Silver Surfer story or was it ghost written?
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Post by kirby101 on Aug 20, 2022 8:06:40 GMT -5
Did Stan Lee actually write that Moebius Silver Surfer story or was it ghost written? Yes, but he gave Moebius a short outline (6 pages) which Moebius turned into a 72 page story, Lee then scripted it.
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Post by commond on Aug 21, 2022 23:44:44 GMT -5
There were no Eisner Awards awarded in 1990 due to a series of stuff ups with the nomination process. After that, Jackie Estrada took over the awards, and I believe they switched from an open ballet approach to a judging panel. Even though the awards were cancelled, a quick look at the Harveys that year gives us some idea of the work that may have been nominated -- 1990 HarveysThe Harveys tended to favor Fantagraphics books more with Love and Rockets and Eightball taking home several of the awards, but I suspect that Dan Clowes and Peter Bagge, who was working on Neat Stuff at the time, would have at least been nominated for Eisners. Eightball could have potentially won the Eisner for Best New Series. I don't really see what else came close to Eightball in 1989. Best Writer is an interesting one. Moore had left DC by this point. I don't think he produced any comic book work in 1989 that would have seen him nominated for an Eisner. He began From Hell in the pages of Taboo, but From Hell didn't gain traction til around 1991 in terms of being nominated for awards. It feels too early for Gaiman to win it. Gilbert Hernandez won the Harvey, but I can't see him winning the Eisner as well. Grant Morrison isn't quite the critical darling that Moore and Gaiman were. Perhaps it goes to a dark horse candidate? I can see Arkham Asylum receiving several nominations. I'm not a big fan myself. Personally, I'd take Killing Joke if I had to pick between the two. I can see McKean taking home best artist, however. Harvey winner, Mark Schultz is another possibility. Best Series would have been another interesting one. I feel like there would have been some Kitchen Sink nominees for the Eisners. I like that Yummy Fur gets some recognition with the Harveys voters. The first Concrete series ended in 1988, so something else would have taken home the Best Continuing Series. Does Love and Rockets get its due? How about Cerebus? Sim was smack in the middle of Jaka's Story in 1989. It's interesting how the Eisners go to the trouble of breaking down Best Series into four different categories, but they lump any sort of trade paperback collection or reprint collection in with the graphic novel category. The Harveys separate these books into separate categories.
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 22, 2022 21:33:05 GMT -5
I'd argue the best anthology. I like A-1, but Dark Horse Presents had a better variety of material and Raw had more experimental material.
Alan Moore and Bill Sienkiewicz put out the two issues of Big Numbers, before their collaboration broke down. Those would have been likely nominees.
Just a personal preference; but, I'd put either Epicurus the Sage or Gregory ahead of Ed The Happy Clown, for Graphc Album.
I like Dave McKean's artwork for Arkham Asylum; but, never cared for Morrison's story. Same with The Mystery Play, where he was teamed with John J Muth.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Aug 22, 2022 21:56:14 GMT -5
I'm thinking if Marvel was going to get any love, it would be for Byrne's She-Hulk. I could see PAD sneaking in too with Atlantis Chronicles. Flipping though what can out in 1989, nothing else other than what was mentioned jumps out.. V for Vendetta was finishing I suppose, but seems like that should have been part of the year before.
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 22, 2022 23:41:11 GMT -5
In Fantagraphics eyes, about the only worthwhile things coming from Marvel were the Akira translations and the Moebius albums. I don't recall Peter David ever getting much love, from the Eisners. Mainly, his career was more about working on other people's properties. Atlantis Chronicles was a cult favorite; but, I don't remember the media raving much about it, other than some positive reviews in CBG (where David wrote his But I Digress column). I don't see much acclaim for She-Hulk, outside of the CBG Awards, where David more often got mentioned. David was definitely more a fan favorite than a critical darling. I enjoyed a lot of his writing; but, he was definitely more of a populist writer than someone who really experimented with and expressed interesting thoughts in the medium. He seemed happiest working on other people's characters, rather than crafting his own. Nothing wrong with that and he did it better than a large segment of the industry. He definitely wasn't going to get any loving from Fantagraphics, especially after he flamesprayed them over their obituary for Carol Kalish, Marvel's former Direct sales manager, who passed away in 1991. Although they did not attack her personally, they did attack her role and cherry picked her programs to support their thesis. David went ape-@#$% and wrote a scathing rebuttal. Kalish was his boss and mentor and he named one of his daughters after her; so, he took the criticism personally. It was a bit more justified than his feud with Image, though he made very valid criticism of them and statements they made, when they launched the company. The debate with Todd McFarlane was a farce, though.
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Post by commond on Aug 23, 2022 8:38:17 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure Big Numbers was published in 1990, so wouldn't have been eligible for the Eisners that year.
The definition of a graphic novel is a bit murky at this stage. Ed the Happy Clown was serialized in Yummy Fur, which presumably would make it a trade paperback collection, no? Am I wrong in thinking that graphic novels should be original pieces of work?
There does appear to be a bias against non-Epic Marvel titles, however the Harveys do feature a number of nominations for Marvel inkers, letterers and colorists. It wasn't the most creatively fertile time for The House of Ideas, though it does hold a lot of sentimental value to me given those were the best years of my comic fandom.
Peter David won an Eisner for Best Writer/Artist or Writer/Artist Team with Dale Keown in 1992. He was also nominated for Best Writer that year. It was quite an impressive field that they beat out. The Hulk was also nominated for Best Continuing Series, and Mark Farmer was nominated for Best Inker. Someone on the panel really liked The Hulk that year.
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Post by commond on Aug 24, 2022 8:55:49 GMT -5
1991 Will Eisner Comic Industry AwardsWinners and nominees
The Eisners were under new management in 1991, but that didn't stop cock ups with the nomination process for Best Graphic Novel. I can only assume that there was confusion over the split categories. Perhaps there was some reprint material voted for in the new category, or vice versa. The key takeaways for me were how respected Frank Miller was in his field and the beginning of Neil Gaiman's streak of Best Writer awards. It was a huge year for Steve Rude as he took home not only the Eisner, but also the Harvey, for World's Finest. 1991 was the last year they had a Best Black and White Series award. Somehow it went to Xenozoic Tales despite there only being one issue published in 1990. I guess that didn't matter to the panel since there were only two issues of Omaha the Cat Dancer published and one of those was a reprint. Yummy Fur, Eightball and Hate are now being recognized by the Eisners. It's interesting how many anthology series there were during this time. As a 2000 AD fan, I have an interest in Marshall Law and The Last American, the latter of which caused the final disintegration of John Wagner and Alan Grant's writing partnership.
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