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Post by Ozymandias on Jul 18, 2021 13:33:51 GMT -5
They you're missing out on a lot of good comics. -M I'm okay. I'm still reading a lot of good comics. And there's no guarantee you'd enjoy many of those you're missing on.
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Post by Farrar on Jul 18, 2021 16:32:27 GMT -5
Birthday gift from a friend of mine. ASM 100 (UK version). Still an amazing book... US or whatever country. Ah, the pence price variant! I have several of these, most of mine are like your gift, from the 1969/70/71 period, the ones with the 1/- price (shilling). As I'm sure many here already know, these were printed at the same time/using the same printers as the US "version"; the only difference between these pence- priced comics and the 12/15-cents ones on sale in the US are the cover prices. Even the ads are the same--they're the US ads, even though the pence-price comics were intended for distribution in the UK. Great gift!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2021 18:52:43 GMT -5
I'm okay. I'm still reading a lot of good comics. And there's no guarantee you'd enjoy many of those you're missing on. But you will never know unless you try. The joy of discovery is what brought every one of us into comics. Without it we never would have become fans. However most fans give up that prospect of discovery once they find something they like for an unending parade of the same old same old never looking beyond their old favorites once established. Old favorites are great, but no matter how much I like something, an unending parade of it without the variety of discovery becomes dull and unappealing. Wash, rinse, repeat routine loses its appeal after a while no matter how much I liked it when I first discovered it. -M
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Post by Ozymandias on Jul 19, 2021 9:09:59 GMT -5
And there's no guarantee you'd enjoy many of those you're missing on. But you will never know unless you try. The joy of discovery is what brought every one of us into comics. Without it we never would have become fans. However most fans give up that prospect of discovery once they find something they like for an unending parade of the same old same old never looking beyond their old favorites once established. Old favorites are great, but no matter how much I like something, an unending parade of it without the variety of discovery becomes dull and unappealing. Wash, rinse, repeat routine loses its appeal after a while no matter how much I liked it when I first discovered it. -M There's some truth in that, of course, but in my experience, trying a thousand things has shown me where it's more likely I'll find something I'll enjoy. As you start having more years behind you than ahead, maximizing the reward for time invested, even in entertainment (or maybe specially) becomes more important than diversifying (*). At the same time, knowing the field helps avoid spending too much time on those who can't be original when rinsing.
In theory, it's a sound proposition, but I've found than diversity means I need outside counsel, from people specialized in each respective corner of the market. Usually I'd go with the most recognized works, only to be disappointing time and again. Not always, but often enough. With Marvel, even if the ratio is similar, at least even in the usual case were the particular comic doesn't grab me, it builds up to the whole experience. I can't find that anywhere else.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 19, 2021 9:32:57 GMT -5
I'm happy for you that you got the yearbook, tartanphantom but if my purchase doesn't involve one person in costume punching another person in costume, I'm not buying t. I'm honestly curious...do you only read one genre of prose? Watch one genre of TV or movies? Listen to one genre of music?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2021 10:56:30 GMT -5
But you will never know unless you try. The joy of discovery is what brought every one of us into comics. Without it we never would have become fans. However most fans give up that prospect of discovery once they find something they like for an unending parade of the same old same old never looking beyond their old favorites once established. Old favorites are great, but no matter how much I like something, an unending parade of it without the variety of discovery becomes dull and unappealing. Wash, rinse, repeat routine loses its appeal after a while no matter how much I liked it when I first discovered it. -M There's some truth in that, of course, but in my experience, trying a thousand things has shown me where it's more likely I'll find something I'll enjoy. As you start having more years behind you than ahead, maximizing the reward for time invested, even in entertainment (or maybe specially) becomes more important than diversifying (*). At the same time, knowing the field helps avoid spending too much time on those who can't be original when rinsing. In theory, it's a sound proposition, but I've found than diversity means I need outside counsel, from people specialized in each respective corner of the market. Usually I'd go with the most recognized works, only to be disappointing time and again. Not always, but often enough. With Marvel, even if the ratio is similar, at least even in the usual case were the particular comic doesn't grab me, it builds up to the whole experience. I can't find that anywhere else.
And I've found that sticking to the same old same old offers diminishing returns over the years, especially super-hero comics where the vast majority of it is filler pablum produced to meet deadlines and get product out without any true vision of what the story or the art could be, and with house standards for art and story that trend everything towards blandness and mediocrity, where you are essentially reading the same stories with the same general art layouts and style ad nauseum. There is some truly exceptional super-hero comics out there from Marvel, DC and others, that are bursting with creativity, experimentation with the medium, vision, great stories, great art, and that have something to say with the story. But they are by far and away the exception not the rule (as Sturgeon's law dictates), and I would rather take my chances on something new that could be great rather than sticking to things I expect form my experiences will rise to the level of mediocrity at best and offer nothing I haven't seen before in hundreds of other super-hero comics of the same design. It becomes a waste of my time and money to keep buying the same story and art slightly repackaged with a different (not even fresh) coat of paint on it. Others may have a different experience, but every time I have left comics to take a hiatus it's because the standard super-hero fare had gotten stale for me, and I wasn't finding anything to catch my interest. Whenever I have come back it was because something outside super-heroes had caught my attention and brought me back. When I came back I would check out old favorites, most often to disappointing results, but it was the appeal of the possibility of discovering something new and exciting that brought me to the table and kept me there. If I wanted to read the same old same old with super-hero comics, I could reread the ones I knew I would enjoy, not pale imitations of them being produced on the same formula in the same rigid house styles decades after the interesting innovative stuff was produced. -M
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Post by Ozymandias on Jul 19, 2021 11:26:25 GMT -5
There's some truth in that, of course, but in my experience, trying a thousand things has shown me where it's more likely I'll find something I'll enjoy. As you start having more years behind you than ahead, maximizing the reward for time invested, even in entertainment (or maybe specially) becomes more important than diversifying (*). At the same time, knowing the field helps avoid spending too much time on those who can't be original when rinsing. In theory, it's a sound proposition, but I've found than diversity means I need outside counsel, from people specialized in each respective corner of the market. Usually I'd go with the most recognized works, only to be disappointing time and again. Not always, but often enough. With Marvel, even if the ratio is similar, at least even in the usual case were the particular comic doesn't grab me, it builds up to the whole experience. I can't find that anywhere else.
And I've found that sticking to the same old same old offers diminishing returns over the years, especially super-hero comics where the vast majority of it is filler pablum produced to meet deadlines and get product out without any true vision of what the story or the art could be, and with house standards for art and story that trend everything towards blandness and mediocrity, where you are essentially reading the same stories with the same general art layouts and style ad nauseum. There is some truly exceptional super-hero comics out there from Marvel, DC and others, that are bursting with creativity, experimentation with the medium, vision, great stories, great art, and that have something to say with the story. But they are by far and away the exception not the rule (as Sturgeon's law dictates), and I would rather take my chances on something new that could be great rather than sticking to things I expect form my experiences will rise to the level of mediocrity at best and offer nothing I haven't seen before in hundreds of other super-hero comics of the same design. It becomes a waste of my time and money to keep buying the same story and art slightly repackaged with a different (not even fresh) coat of paint on it. Others may have a different experience, but every time I have left comics to take a hiatus it's because the standard super-hero fare had gotten stale for me, and I wasn't finding anything to catch my interest. Whenever I have come back it was because something outside super-heroes had caught my attention and brought me back. When I came back I would check out old favorites, most often to disappointing results, but it was the appeal of the possibility of discovering something new and exciting that brought me to the table and kept me there. If I wanted to read the same old same old with super-hero comics, I could reread the ones I knew I would enjoy, not pale imitations of them being produced on the same formula in the same rigid house styles decades after the interesting innovative stuff was produced. -M Sturgeon's law? I'd rather say that quality wise, comics (as everything human?) belong on a bell curve. In that sense, Marvel comics are roughly comparable to any other kind: European, Manga, newspaper strips, horror, romance, western, adventure, S&S, sci-fi, indies, underground... not a single one of those corners of the market deserve less criticism, for compromising in the search for sales.
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Post by Rob Allen on Jul 19, 2021 12:51:52 GMT -5
I think Icctrombone was joking about his comics preferences. He used a wink emoji.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 19, 2021 13:03:11 GMT -5
While most of my comics are the long underwear type, I’m open to reading anything that is well told with compelling characters. Some favorite non superhero books include 100 bullets, Combat Kelly and his deadly dozen , Gunhawks and others that don’t come to mind. My favorite types of stories involve human situations and not supernatural plots. Tony’s fight with alcohol and Pyms battle with depression were much more interesting than who they were fighting that month.
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Post by Crimebuster on Jul 19, 2021 13:25:11 GMT -5
I think Icctrombone was joking about his comics preferences. He used a wink emoji. The only emojis I use are superhero emojis. 🦸♂️
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2021 23:23:07 GMT -5
Birthday gift from a friend of mine. ASM 100 (UK version). Still an amazing book... US or whatever country. UK price variant makes it more desirable in my book.
Pence versions are great, but I'm biased....
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Post by Ozymandias on Jul 22, 2021 14:18:13 GMT -5
This one took 60 days! Domestic shipping is usually about three days, but this seller from todocoleccion is the worst I've seen: I already had a copy, but I had ordered the one above first and when the seller finally resurfaced I couldn't resist getting it for 15€ (postage included).
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Post by tonebone on Jul 22, 2021 15:40:24 GMT -5
I'm happy for you that you got the yearbook, tartanphantom but if my purchase doesn't involve one person in costume punching another person in costume, I'm not buying t. I'm honestly curious...do you only read one genre of prose? Watch one genre of TV or movies? Listen to one genre of music? I think he just knows his sweet spot. My wife is constantly...CONSTANTLY... trying to get me to eat Brussel sprouts. I have to keep telling her "I'm 53 years old. I've tried them."
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Post by tonebone on Jul 22, 2021 15:42:43 GMT -5
This one took 60 days! Domestic shipping is usually about three days, but this seller from todocoleccion is the worst I've seen: I already had a copy, but I had ordered the one above first and when the seller finally resurfaced I couldn't resist getting it for 15€ (postage included). Damn. Captain America be crazy.
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Post by Josh on Jul 22, 2021 16:15:28 GMT -5
My latest pickups Sherlock Holmes (2009) 1-5, Dan Dare: Reign of the Robots, and three books by the fine folks at TwoMorrows. Hopefully the pic isn’t huge. I tried to link a thumbnail, but I’m on my phone.
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