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Post by Cei-U! on Dec 17, 2022 5:05:50 GMT -5
Usually by the time TDCCC gets started, my list is pretty much locked in. This year, however, it's been in a state of flux, with selections being added, dropped, or moved in the order on an almost daily basis. Today is no exception, as our old friends The Beagle Boys lose their slot to 8. The Fellowship of Fear
I'm not sure just why this one-time-only team-up from Daredevil #6 (February 1965) holds such a place in my heart, Maybe because it was both the first issue of DD I ever read (though I knew him already from Amazing Spider-Man #16) and my first exposure to the artwork of the immortal Wally Wood. Maybe it's my memory of first reading it while visiting Pastor Schroeder's house (it was his son David's), one of the few truly pleasant memories I have of my folks' churchgoing days. Maybe it was the wax museum backdrop which gave Wood a chance to draw a plethora of Marvel heroes and villains. Maybe it's because the team of The Ox, The Eel, and Mr. Fear provided the right level of challenge for the Man Without Fear, the Fellowship being just powerful enough to be a genuine threat but not so powerful that his eventual victory strained credulity. Or maybe, just maybe, it's simply a damned cool comic. Cei-U! I summon the multiple choice justification!
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Post by EdoBosnar on Dec 17, 2022 5:43:54 GMT -5
8. Dr. Doom and DormammuThe story in Amazing Spider-man Annual #14 appeared in my 12 days list a few years ago when the theme with team-ups/crossovers; obviously, I chose it for the team-up between the book’s two heroes, Spider-man and Dr. Strange. However, even back then, it occurred to me that maybe I should have highlighted the other two characters who joined forces there, i.e., Doom and Dormammu. In retrospect, it’s an alliance that makes a lot of sense, and I’m a bit surprised nobody at Marvel thought of it before Denny O’Neil put them together for this story. One thing I really liked is how Doom initially gave the impression that he was scheming against Dormammu, but we then learn it that this was just a bit of clever subterfuge to manipulate one of Doom’s lackeys into doing exactly what they both wanted to put their diabolical plan into motion. Long-term collaboration between these two probably would not have been feasible due to their egos, but as this annual showed, they could be quite a threat when they pooled their resources.
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Post by foxley on Dec 17, 2022 5:50:07 GMT -5
Because when fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross... 8. The Force of July (first appearance Batman and the Outsiders Annual #1) 1984(Major Victory, Lady Liberty, Mayflower, Silent Majority, Sparkler) Agents of the government espionage organization, the American Security Agency, the Force of July operated under the personal supervision of the ASA's director, B. Eric Blairman. The ASA's purpose — to eliminate all subversive activities contrary to the best interests of the United States— brought the Force into repeated conflict with the group known as The Outsiders, whom the Force wrongly believed were subversive agents. This group was a late addition to my list, but as I considering it, I realised that as they are probably even more relevant today than they were created. A bunch of fanatical ultra-nationalists devoted to destroying anything they view as 'un-American': even believing it obvious that Katana and Black Lightning could not be 'true Americans'. The Force battled the Outsiders multiple times, before the majority of the team was killed in 'The Janus Directive' crossover. Major Victory was the only survivor, and wound up becoming a member of the Suicide Squad for a time; leading to some interesting clashes between his hardline nationalism and the more 'flexible' morality of the rest of the Squad. New versions of the team have turned up since then, but none have had the impact of the original, who had moderately well fleshed out personalities. As an Australian, I'm interested when an American writer recognizes and explores the ugly (and dangerous) side of American patriotism. I've always assumed this team was a response to Reagan-era politics (although I've never heard Barr confirm this). And I do like a punny name. As I said, this was a late addition to my list but, given I could not include The Maze Agency this year, it seems fitting I include another Mike. W. Barr creation.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Dec 17, 2022 6:50:17 GMT -5
Usually by the time TDCCC gets started, my list is pretty much locked in. This year, however, it's been in a state of flux, with selections being added, dropped, or moved in the order on an almost daily basis. (...) That pretty much describes my process in pretty much every single one of these 12 days events. However, it's even more like that this year (and I know that even more than in previous years, I'll probably end up thinking the order of my selections should probably have been different - I'm already thinking one of my already-posted selections should be higher up on the list).
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Post by commond on Dec 17, 2022 6:53:54 GMT -5
8. The Daredevil Revenge SquadThis group of villains didn't actually have a name. They were recruited by Typhoid Mary to take out Daredevil at the behest of the Kingpin, and were made up of villains that Nocenti had introduced during her run, including Bullet, Bushwacker, Ammo, and the Wild Boys. Daredevil fought each of them gauntlet style, and they beat the absolute shit out of him. The Wild Boys nearly killed him, then his love interest Mary showed up and dropped him off a bridge. Brutal. So why this pick? Daredevil was a favorite of mine when I began collecting comics. I would have been about 9 when I discovered the book, and I was instantly drawn toward the artwork. At the time, I had no idea how integral Al Williamson was to how it looked. I didn't really have a clue what an inker did in those days. I just really loved Romita Jr.'s art. I was new to comics, so seeing the hero get the shit beaten out of him like that was a complete shock. Of course, Daredevil getting the shit beaten out of him was nothing new, but I'd never heard of Frank Miller when this was coming off the stands. I'm sure a lot of what Nocenti was doing went straight over my heard at 9 years old, but looking back on it now, not only is the hero violently beaten within an inch of his life, Typhoid Mary and Kingpin end up having a fight that turns into a kinky bit of foreplay. I mentioned this yesterday, but Marvel put out a lot of mature content in the late 80s. I don't know if the writers were influenced by what was happening in the direct market, or being swept up in the grim and gritty trend, but there was a lot of nasty stuff happening in Marvel comics. The first two comics my father bought for me had a powerless Rogue being sexually and/or physically abused by Genosha magistrates and Mary Jane being kidnapped and held captive by an obsessed stalker. And that was run of the mill, monthly stuff. It wouldn't be a surprise these days since everything is direct market, but these comics were bought by kids off the newsstands. It only lasted a short while until Marvel fired all the writers and let the artists run amok, but it was a weird time to become a fan.
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 17, 2022 7:22:56 GMT -5
# 8. Amora the Enchantress/ The Executioner and Loki Journey into mystery # 103 Marvel Comics ( 1964) Writer: Stan Lee Artist: Jack Kirby Inker: Chic Stone
This first appearance of both The Enchantress and the Executioner is a fun tale that involves Amora being recruited by Loki to win the heart of Donald Blake ( Thor's alter ego). It seems Odin is still pissed that Thor is pursuing a relationship with Jane Foster , a mere mortal so Loki suggests using her to make Thor forget Jane. Of course Amora is more than a pretty face and she wants to capture Thor's heart. She fails in her attempt and we meet the Executioner who is brought in by her to abduct Jane and , I guess, kill her. Well, he takes her and uses his Ax to send Jane to a place between Earth and Asgard called Limbo. Thor engages him and is forced to give up his hammer in order for Jane to be brought back. Amora, sensing she’s been betrayed by the Executioner appears and uses her magic to turn him onto a tree. Because of the enchanted Hammer, Amora’s spells are useless against Thor. Thor then uses his Hammer to transport both of them to Asgard to face punishment. A few points about this bookIn Marvel’s silver age when characters were introduced they had many powers and abilities that were later ignored. This is part of the charm of the beginning of Marvel comics. The executioner has an Ax that can create vortexes and transport people and objects through Time and Space, it can also unleash the energy of an exploding sun and Frost from the arctic. These powers seems to be on par with Thor’s Hammer. I’m not sure he ever uses those abilities again. The place where Jane is transported is called Limbo , the land between Earth and Asgard. This is a full five months after the Space Phantom uses Limbo in Avengers # 2. These stories were coming out fast and loose , so no connection was explained. Amora seems to be on everyone's list to sleep with as Loki and the Executioner both show interest. It seems Thor is the only one who doesn’t want her, and she only wants Thor. Just like real life where women only want the guy that shows no interest. I should have included Odin as one of the villains because he greenlit this plan to use Amora.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2022 7:41:37 GMT -5
Crime Syndicate of Earth-3
Today's choice goes to those evil dopplegangers originating from the pages of the JLA. I'd love to write some beautiful prose on their significance, but fact is, you take a favorite hero or team of mine and make the "Mirror, Mirror" version, I'm so there. I think the costumes have also made for a great visual, just close enough to the heroes to make the connection but they also stand on their own a bit as nice designs. Ultraman was always a favorite of mine, but man, something tells me Superwoman is the scariest to mess with. And then you have Owlman, perhaps the most sinister when you think of putting Batman's genius to work on the wrong side of justice (actually on the modern side, the animated movie Crisis on Two Earths really explores this in a brilliant and rather scary way). While I'm not a big fan of Crisis on Infinite Earths, Ultraman had one of my favorite quotes in the panel when they are just about to go down: "We've spent a lifetime terrorizing this world, yet our last moments alive are trying to save it." Alas, all bad things must come to an end!
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Post by Confessor on Dec 17, 2022 7:43:29 GMT -5
#8 – The Joker, Two-Face, Penguin, Riddler, Mr. Freeze, Scarecrow, Mad Hatter & assorted other Bat-villains vs. Killer CrocAs seen in Detective Comics #526 (1983) This issue is actually the final instalment of a four-part storyline that runs through Batman #358–359, and Detective Comics #525–526. It's notable for featuring the first full, named appearance of Killer Croc, as well as being where the pre-Crisis Jason Todd first becomes Robin. The whole story is excellent, but it's specifically the final part in Detective Comics #526 that I'm picking today. Croc, like so many other villains before him, wants to become the crime king of Gotham City – a fact that alarms the Joker greatly. So, the Clown Prince of Crime swiftly organizes a gathering of his fellow super-villains, informing them of Croc's plan and his potential to kill Batman, before suggesting that they should all team-up to kill the Batman first or they are likely to lose their prestigious places in Gotham's underworld hierarchy. Yep...some brilliant, flawless comic book logic, right there! The twist is that while the other villains are launching their attacks against Batman, the Joker is double-crossing them by telling Croc what his comrades are up to. Joker's plan being that he will allow either Batman or his villainous partners to defeat Croc, and one way or another, the Joker will end up as Gotham's #1 crime boss. Of course, it doesn't quite go like that, and Batman – with help from Batgirl, Robin and Jason Todd – manage to defeat Croc, the Joker and his miscreant allies. As I say, it's hard for me to divorce this final part of the arc from the three episodes that precede it, since the whole storyline is a great read. But I do love seeing all those assembled Bat-villains together and out for the Dark Knight's blood, so I knew that this issue had to be on my list.
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Post by shaxper on Dec 17, 2022 7:53:47 GMT -5
8. Ra's Al Ghul, The Joker, Black Mask, Mad Hatter, Killer Croc, Clayface (Preston Payne), Ridder, Cavalier, Cat-Man, Poison Ivy, Penguin, Calendar Man, Crazy-Quilt, Black Spider, Dagger, Deadshot, Two-Face, Dr. Double-X, Cluemaster, Killer Moth, Scarecrow, Night-Slayer, Tweedle Dum; Tweedle Dee, Mr. Freeze, and Doctor PhosphorousOccurred in Batman #400 (October 1986) By Doug Moench and various artists It was hardly the first time that nearly all of Batman's villains were assembled to destroy him, and it certainly wasn't the last, but this was the only Batman Rogues Gallery team-up that I actually found memorable because, in such a large anniversary issue, Moench had the space to give our villains downtime, and boy do the characterizations soar as a result. Of course we've seen villain work with villain and villain betray villain, but when in the past have we ever seen villains just...talking, giving us space to watch their very different personalities play off of each other and come further to life as a result? When people want the definitive Pre-Crisis Batman, I point them to Untold Legends of The Batman. When people want the definitive Batman Rogues Gallery, I point them here.
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Post by shaxper on Dec 17, 2022 7:55:01 GMT -5
#8 – The Joker, Two-Face, Penguin, Riddler, Mr. Freeze, Scarecrow, Mad Hatter & assorted other Bat-villains vs. Killer CrocAs seen in Detective Comics #526 (1983) Irony of ironies that we should post these two right after one another!
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 17, 2022 8:11:05 GMT -5
#8 – The Joker, Two-Face, Penguin, Riddler, Mr. Freeze, Scarecrow, Mad Hatter & assorted other Bat-villains vs. Killer CrocAs seen in Detective Comics #526 (1983) It was my intention to include this also. I still might, but in my opinion this run with Conway, Colan and Newton was the best Batman run ever. Sorry O’Neil and Adams.
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Post by shaxper on Dec 17, 2022 8:12:33 GMT -5
#8 – The Joker, Two-Face, Penguin, Riddler, Mr. Freeze, Scarecrow, Mad Hatter & assorted other Bat-villains vs. Killer CrocAs seen in Detective Comics #526 (1983) It was intention to include this also. I still might, but in my opinion this run with Conway, Colan and Newton was the best Batman run ever. Sorry O’Neil and Adams. Damn straight, though I'd argue Moench is a continuation of that run and makes it even better. Just finished re-reading it with Amber, and it still holds up.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2022 8:49:38 GMT -5
8. The Enforcers (Marvel Comics)I can sum up my choice in one sentence: punching above their weight. Even as a kid, I couldn’t quite understand why relatively ordinary guys like the Enforcers were giving Spidey a rough time. He could defeat a dozen or so hoods before breakfast, but this team gave him many problems. I felt the same way when watching the live-action Spidey series: how could a guy with the proportionate strength of a spider consistently be given trouble by regular bad guys? I mean, in that series, we could watch Spidey rip off a car door, tackle wild animals and do various feats of strength, yet a regular hood gave him problems. But logic be damned. I like it when folk punch above their weight. Buster Douglas knocked out Mike Tyson (a major shock for me, given Tyson’s dominance). Football teams might beat a superior team in an FA Cup match. Seeing Spidey defeat Firelord in the 80s was a lot of fun. So for being a fun team that often punch above their weight, the Enforcers have to be on my list.
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Post by DubipR on Dec 17, 2022 9:10:02 GMT -5
#8- Female FuriesI really enjoy Kirby's Fourth World books. As crazy and convoluted they can get but the creations that sprang from The King's mind and pencils made for memorable and lasting characters. Mister Miracle introduced a fantastic group of baddies that always were a nail in Scott Free's boot. The Female Furies, loyal to the end in service of Darkseid, were created. Big Barda is one of my favorite DC characters but the rest of the Furies don't get the love at times. "Mentored" by the scary Granny Goodness, Lashina (who made in my Classic Comics Christmas of costumes) leads the death squad. Stompa with her earth shatter boots, Gilotina with her swords, Mad Harriet with her powers, and Bernadeth with her creepy looks and mystical powers, the Furies were there to strike fear not only to Mister Miracle but also go into war against New Genesis. I love Kirby's crazy designs of the 70s and this color scheme. From Barda's amazing armour to the the shadows on the chin. The Furies remain a weird and fun group of baddies.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 17, 2022 9:52:01 GMT -5
8. The Daredevil Revenge SquadThis group of villains didn't actually have a name. A rose by any other name... They'll be back, under a different one!
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